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Politician won't drop Stones hit
Herald Sun ^ | 24 august 2005

Posted on 08/23/2005 6:23:32 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

GERMANY'S conservatives said today they would continue to play the Rolling Stones song Angie on their leader Angela Merkel's campaign trail despite complaints from the band and requests from a record company to stop.

"The song will be played tonight" at a rally in Hamburg, said a spokeswoman for Ms Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) which is tipped to win September elections, paving the way for her to become Germany's first woman chancellor.

She said that the party had been assured by the German music copyright group GEMA that they were allowed to use the Stones' 1973 hit.

The European edition of Time magazine yesterday reported that the legendary rock band believes Ms Merkel should have sought their permission to use their bittersweet love song but would have refused if she had done so.

"We did not grant permission. We are surprised that permission was not requested. If it had been requested we would have said no," it quoted a spokesman for the Stones as saying.

The CDU has regularly played Angie at Ms Merkel's rallies, ignoring the irony of lyrics like "Will all our dreams go up in smoke?", and did so again last night when she addressed a crowd in Warnemuende in north-eastern Germany.

Today a Hamburg-based record company which holds the rights to the song in Germany said they were not taking legal action for now, but asked the CDU to stop playing the song.

"At the moment we are not looking at taking any legal action. But things may still change. Anything is possible," said Jan Ehlers, the head of tj musicservice.

"The way the song is being used now is not acceptable, neither for the authors nor for the original record company," he said.

"We simply ask the CDU to stop."

The Rolling Stones have raised eyebrows with a song on their latest album, Sweet Neo-Con, which is seen as a critique of conservative US President George W. Bush.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; angie; christiandemocrats; germany; jagger; merkel; mickjagger; neocons; rollingstones
Mick Jagger's not happy. Who gives an airborne rodent's rump???!!!
1 posted on 08/23/2005 6:23:33 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher
Mick Jagger's not happy.

Sweet.

2 posted on 08/23/2005 6:25:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Atheism is not conservative!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Yes. I remember when that song came out. It was the year before last.

Oh . . . it was thirty-one years ago?

Heh-heh.

Oh my.

3 posted on 08/23/2005 6:27:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I suppose if German liberals were using the song it wouldn't be such a problem for dick.........er, mick.


4 posted on 08/23/2005 6:31:58 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I'm shattered.


5 posted on 08/23/2005 6:32:18 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Mid-life crisis in progress...)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I don't quite remember the lyrics right now, but I thought the Angie the Stones sang of was not a particularly sympathetic person. Might not be the best song to use.


6 posted on 08/23/2005 6:32:23 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit

They are Germans we're talking about here...


7 posted on 08/23/2005 6:33:33 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"We did not grant permission. We are surprised that permission was not requested. If it had been requested we would have said no,"

That's why they didnt request permission, Einstein.

8 posted on 08/23/2005 6:34:54 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Aussie Dasher
Angie, angie, when will those clouds all disappear? 
Angie, angie, where will it lead us from here? 
With no loving in our souls and no money in our coats
You can’t say we’re satisfied
But angie, angie, you can’t say we never tried
Angie, you’re beautiful, but ain’t it time we said good-bye? 
Angie, I still love you, remember all those nights we cried? 
All the dreams we held so close seemed to all go up in smoke
Let me whisper in your ear:
Angie, angie, where will it lead us from here? 
Oh, angie, don’t you weep, all your kisses still taste sweet
I hate that sadness in your eyes
But angie, angie, ain’t it time we said good-bye? 
With no loving in our souls and no money in our coats
You can’t say we’re satisfied
But angie, I still love you, baby
Ev’rywhere I look I see your eyes
There ain’t a woman that comes close to you
Come on baby, dry your eyes
But angie, angie, ain’t it good to be alive? 
Angie, angie, they can’t say we never tried

9 posted on 08/23/2005 6:35:28 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Poor Germany, someday they'll write their own songs.

Er, maybe not. But someday they'll blare Islamic songs from loud speakers during morning prayer...That's gotta count for something.

10 posted on 08/23/2005 6:38:06 PM PDT by riri
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To: Izzy Dunne; Aussie Dasher

Looks like I remembered the gist of the song all wrong anyways,


11 posted on 08/23/2005 6:38:17 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Aussie Dasher

not a very auspicious tune to associate with a chancellor, I'd think. Rather tragic.


12 posted on 08/23/2005 6:38:57 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (see my FR page for a link to the tribute to Terri Schaivo, a short video presentation.)
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To: BenLurkin
Oh . . . it was thirty-one years ago?

Well now, for a pop tune it should grandfathered in for any use at all.

13 posted on 08/23/2005 6:39:33 PM PDT by Socratic (Liberal's motto: Capio ergo sum.)
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To: riri

Not if the CDU wins the election...


14 posted on 08/23/2005 6:40:22 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: SamAdams76

You should be exiled on main street.


15 posted on 08/23/2005 6:42:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Mick is a washed up relic of a bygone era. What is wrong with so many of the people from the 1860's? It is nice to remember/reminisce about your past, but I have a hard time believing the Stoners even remember – too much LSD, PCP, etc… As a matter of fact, Mick’s (prune boy’s) stones have already rolled away. He should just shut up and hit the bong again.


16 posted on 08/23/2005 6:44:20 PM PDT by kddid (Hope springs eternal.)
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To: BenLurkin

He just needs an Emotional Rescue. He doesn't want to be anybody's Beast of Burden. He'll keep a stiff upper lip because he'd be a Fool To Cry.


17 posted on 08/23/2005 6:46:04 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: BenLurkin

I don't think Schroeder will get any Satisfaction from this election, and he might even have his Nineteenth Nervous Breakdown. It's All Over Now, Gerhard.


18 posted on 08/23/2005 6:47:08 PM PDT by speedy
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To: kddid
What is wrong with so many people from the 1860's?

Aside from being dead? :^)

19 posted on 08/23/2005 6:47:55 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: speedy

This could be the last time, maybe the last time, I don't know, that we hear from him...


20 posted on 08/23/2005 6:49:17 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: speedy

This could be the last time, maybe the last time, I don't know, that we hear from him...


21 posted on 08/23/2005 6:49:31 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: Welsh Rabbit

Wasn't Angie David Bowie's wife at the time? Something like that.


22 posted on 08/23/2005 6:49:48 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Yes, but Angie could run into trouble if she starts that up. Mick's not big on others using his songs; she'll get no sympathy from that devil.


23 posted on 08/23/2005 6:49:57 PM PDT by pleasedontzotme
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To: pleasedontzotme

Schroeder, you want to be a street fightin' man, but you can't always get what you want. When Angie wins it'll be a gas, gas, gas!


24 posted on 08/23/2005 6:52:17 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: kddid

I'm a child of the '70s. I'm sure you've heard this expression - "If you can remember the 70s, you weren't living them".

Loved the Stones back then. Don't really care much about them now, just a bunch of old millionaires. The "Strolling Bones" as another poster here on FR said.


25 posted on 08/23/2005 6:52:55 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (As long as Dean's the head of the D-N-C, it just looks better for the G-O-P!!)
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To: Hildy; All
From Snopes:

The friendship between David Bowie and Mick Jagger (and Angela Bowie's suggestion that it may have been more than a "friendship") led to several retroactive rumors concerning whom Mick Jagger was singing about in the Rolling Stones' 1973 #1 hit "Angie," a bittersweet (and presumably autobiographical) ballad about the end of an unsatisfying love affair. (Part of the speculation may have been fueled by Angela Bowie's statement on "The Joan Rivers Show" that when she when returned from a trip to find her husband and Mick Jagger in her bed, she thought that "they were composing 'Angie.'")

The most common interpretation was that Angie was Angela Bowie herself, with whom Jagger supposedly (also) carried on an affair.

Angela Bowie's relevations on "The Joan Rivers Show" led some to speculate that the eponymous "Angie" was not Angela, but David Bowie.

Another prominent rumor was that "Angie" was actually about Angela Richards, Keith Richards' daughter by actress Anita Pallenberg. (This was a rather silly rumor, given that Angela Richards was less than a year old when the Rolling Stones recorded "Angie." It isn't even likely that Mick Jagger simply used her name for the song's title, as she was originally called Dandelion by her parents until she insisted on the name Angela several years later.)

Yet another rumor had it that "Angie" was about Anita Pallenberg, who had flings with both Brian Jones and Mick Jagger in addition to a multi-year relationship with Keith Richards.

26 posted on 08/23/2005 6:53:28 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Yep, because You Can't Always Get What You Want, and I'm afraid he can't claim that "Time Is On My Side."


27 posted on 08/23/2005 6:54:08 PM PDT by speedy
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

1860's - kinda, sorta, like you know (wo)man, just a little bit - shored up the argument that Mick is a relic.


28 posted on 08/23/2005 6:57:25 PM PDT by kddid (Hope springs eternal.)
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To: pleasedontzotme
Mick's not big on others using his songs;

Unless he's getting paid, like that horrible Ameriquest commercial I saw today, right?

29 posted on 08/23/2005 6:57:52 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

You beat me to it.


30 posted on 08/23/2005 6:59:25 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: speedy

Jeeze, I'm 2000 light years from home. (But at least I'm not a turd on the run)


31 posted on 08/23/2005 7:00:00 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Well, at least you will Not Fade Away (unless you Play With Fire.)


32 posted on 08/23/2005 7:01:38 PM PDT by speedy
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To: Hildy

"Layla" was supposed to be about Eric Clapton's unrequited love for George Harrison's wife.


33 posted on 08/23/2005 7:01:41 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: speedy

As long as you got the silver, Wild Horses couldn't drag you away on this Ruby Tuesday.


34 posted on 08/23/2005 7:04:21 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: speedy

This could go on all night if I go downstairs and look at my albums.


35 posted on 08/23/2005 7:04:25 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SamAdams76

Shuh-doo-bee.


36 posted on 08/23/2005 7:11:36 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives. We're Transmaniacon MC!)
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To: Welsh Rabbit

Reminds me of the Reagan re-election campaign using Bruce Springstein's hit "Born in the USA". The lyrics were actually pretty critical of the US, but the only part anybody heard or cared about was the "Born in the USA" part with the metal guitar beat playing away.
Worked for Reagan.
This might work for Angie.


37 posted on 08/23/2005 7:11:44 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Tibikak ishkwata!)
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To: jwalsh07

At least one neocon appreciates the publicity the rock star is giving the cult. :)


38 posted on 08/23/2005 7:15:19 PM PDT by Torie
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

That one is true.


39 posted on 08/23/2005 7:28:49 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Aussie Dasher

As a matter of law, does one need permission to play any song at a political rally?


40 posted on 08/23/2005 7:31:50 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

This affair must be giving the Glimmer Twins their 19th nervous breakdown!


41 posted on 08/23/2005 7:32:29 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
And now you know...THE REST OF THE STORY:

PROFILE: “Layla”’s real name was Patti Boyd -- or more accurately, Patti Boyd Harrison. She was the wife of Beatle George Harrison when Eric Clapton began pursuing her. Harrison first met her on the set of A Hard Day’s Night in 1964. A stunning nineteen-year-old blonde model, she was only supposed to make a brief appearance in the film and leave; instead, she and George fell in love and eventually married. George and Eric were close friends. They’d known each other since the days when the Beatles and the Yardbirds (Eric’s group at the time) were becoming popular. As they both became superstars, they hung out together more and more. They even contributed to each other’s recordings. Eric played a magnificent solo on “While My Guitar Gently Weeps,” George co-wrote and played on Cream’s “Badge:’ George wrote “Here Comes the Sun” while sitting in Eric’s garden; he wrote “Savoy Truffle” specifically for Eric, who was having dental problems but still couldn’t resist chocolates. George joined Eric on the Delaney and Bonnie tour; etc.

George didn’t realize, however, that over the years Eric had quietly fallen in love with his wife. Eric told Patti (but not George) about his feelings, but she wouldn’t hear anything of it. She remained dedicated to the man who had written “Something” for her. Already a tortured soul, Eric was plunged into despair. In an outburst of emotion, he wrote “Layla.” Later, when people asked him who he was singing for, all he would say was, “‘Layla’ was about a woman I felt really deeply about and who turned me down, and I had to pour it out in some way.” You may be wondering how “Patti” became “Layla.” The answer: Clapton lifted the name “Layla” from a Persian love story called “Layla and Mashoun.” The tale had little similarity to the Eric/Patti/George love triangle. Clapton just liked the title. The song was recorded and released in 1970, with Bobby Whitlock, Jim Gordon, Carl Radle, and Duane Allman, of the Allman Brothers’ Band, playing on it. But it flopped. The record was attributed to Derek and the Dominoes, and no one knew it was Clapton. So Eric, who had poured his heart and soul into the record, threw in the towel. He gave up music and took up heroin. He withdrew for several years-during which the record was re-released and became one of the all-time FM favorites, and a Top 10 single.

A few years later, Clapton kicked the habit and reemerged with “I Shot the Sheriff:’ his first #l song. The story has a happy ending for Eric. Patti eventually divorced George and, in a secret ceremony in Tucson, Arizona, in 1979, married Clapton. Ultimate irony: Patti and Eric later joined George in a recording of the Everly Brothers’ old hit, “Bye, Bye Love.”

42 posted on 08/23/2005 7:33:10 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Rodney King

Probably, but you get away with what you get away with.


43 posted on 08/23/2005 7:35:31 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Hildy
(and presumably autobiographical)

Presumably autobiographical? Oh, yeah:

 "no money in our coats"

44 posted on 08/23/2005 7:38:23 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: jwalsh07
Sweet conning eon-ager, convincing everyone back then that drugs are the way.

Whenever I see his wrinkled face
I see the stabbing at Altamont
and the destroyed, equally wrinkled midriff
of the young girl drawing the water in
that brilliant documentary by the two brothers.

45 posted on 08/23/2005 7:47:20 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I have a strong dislike of Mick Jagger. Perhaps that why The LORD has conscripted me to pray for him upon occasion.


46 posted on 08/23/2005 8:36:04 PM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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