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Punishing Disobedient Wives
Arab News ^ | Tuesday, 23, August, 2005 (18, Rajab, 1426) | Ghada Al-Hori Al-Watan

Posted on 08/24/2005 3:38:13 AM PDT by Salman

I find it unacceptable when some people twist the meaning of a particular verse in the Holy Qur’an — especially the one which permits a husband to beat his disobedient wife. Those who do the twisting must understand that the permission is only given under certain circumstances and that the beating is intended as a remedy for specific situations. It is unfortunate that some well-known and respected Muslim scholars have either willingly or unwillingly joined a campaign seeking to distort the meaning of that particular verse.

In many cases, they have given a different meaning from the one actually intended
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It is quite obvious here that Islam adopts a gradual approach starting with verbal admonishment of the wife, then seeks a period of refraining from conjugal relations and, finally, if the husband finds the situation very serious, he may strike his disobedient wife.
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A rebellious woman who is not moved by kind works, persuasion and admonition is a woman of no feeling and must therefore be punished by beating. Psychiatrists tell us of people, including women, for whom a cure lies in beating.

The controversy over the beating of disloyal and rebellious women is part of the campaign against Islam. If beating disobedient wives was advocated by Western scientists, it would have been widely supported by the same people who criticize Islam and special centers would have been set up all over the world to train husbands on how to beat their wives.

Our scholars should focus on explaining to people, especially the young, the real teachings of Islam in order to avoid causing uncertainty and confusion.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: domesticviolence; islam; muslimwomen; religionofpeace; trop; wives; women
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The bold is my emphasis.
1 posted on 08/24/2005 3:38:14 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

"permission is only given under certain circumstances and that the beating is intended as a remedy for specific situations."

I am glad he cleared that up for me.


2 posted on 08/24/2005 3:40:16 AM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
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To: Salman

Wow! I'm glad that this guy is taking a more progressive perspective to the whole Islam/wife beating issue (with much sarcasm dripping).


3 posted on 08/24/2005 3:41:39 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Salman
Ah, disciplining your wife by beating her. The one part of the Koran we can all agree on. (Ducks, runs out of the house slamming the door behind him, jumps in the car and drives several miles away from the pursuing crowd). :-)

a period of refraining from conjugal relations

Seriously, I never found this to be much of a punishment to my wife. This is pretty much proof that Mohammed didn't understand the relationship between men and women at all.

4 posted on 08/24/2005 3:43:13 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: Salman

"Our scholars should focus on explaining to people, especially the young, the real teachings of Islam in order to avoid causing uncertainty and confusion."

I think the rest of the world knows "the real teachings of Islam".


5 posted on 08/24/2005 3:45:08 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Salman

And the virus continues its ugly way...


6 posted on 08/24/2005 3:45:17 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: Salman
Moderate Islam= Beat your wife only when necessary. (sarc)
7 posted on 08/24/2005 3:45:33 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: Salman
Psychiatrists tell us of people, including women, for whom a cure lies in beating.

Geez even their psychiatrists are nuts.

8 posted on 08/24/2005 3:51:35 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Hardastarboard
This is pretty much proof that Mohammed didn't understand the relationship between men and women at all.

Well, grown women. Mohammed understood that when you strike a nine year old "wife", they seldom hit back.

9 posted on 08/24/2005 3:53:15 AM PDT by woofer
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To: SouthernFreebird

This has got to be a parody!


10 posted on 08/24/2005 3:54:18 AM PDT by kjo
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To: Salman
It is quite obvious here that Islam adopts a gradual approach starting with verbal admonishment of the wife, then seeks a period of refraining from conjugal relations and, finally, if the husband finds the situation very serious, he may strike his disobedient wife.

I suppose Islam adopts a similarly gradual approach to terrorism. Start with verbal admonishment, then seek a period of refraining from diplomatic relations -- and only then, after you've tried everything else and they just won't listen -- then fly some airplanes into their skyscrapers.

What a shame that some benighted souls so egregiously misunderstand the Holy Qu'ran!

A rebellious woman who is not moved by kind works, persuasion and admonition is a woman of no feeling and must therefore be punished by beating. Psychiatrists tell us of people, including women, for whom a cure lies in beating.

I think there may be some psychiatrists for whom a cure lies in beating.

11 posted on 08/24/2005 3:55:16 AM PDT by TheGhostOfTomPaine
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To: Salman

Didn't Mohammed also advocate sexual contact with minors?

"Beating" ANY human being unless in times of self defense (or defense of others) is debased behavior. Perhaps you should question who it is who advocated to you to "beat (the) wife" instead of questioning those who question your source.

Unless what the point is is that the "wives" pose a threat to a "husband's" "self defense," in which case they are only exerting a self defense in "beating" the "wife."

I'd buy that last part, given that most who use pugalism in interpersonal relationships (at least, of the "beating" proportions), certainly those who engage in violence in interpersonal relationships, most claim that they are victimized by those they "beat."

It seems that Mohammed has written the perfect rationalization for the threatened, cowardly male. Again, I write, perhaps you should question the source. Or question motivations for subjecting oneself to such a source.


12 posted on 08/24/2005 3:57:11 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: kjo

Appears genuine. Interesting article.


13 posted on 08/24/2005 3:57:40 AM PDT by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: kjo

Don't we all wish that it was....

~:-]


14 posted on 08/24/2005 3:58:27 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: kjo
This has got to be a parody!

Afraid not. It's a real editorial in a Saudi paper.

15 posted on 08/24/2005 3:59:58 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

Any person who feels the need to beat spouse, child, or pet to correct their behavior should live their life alone. (And seek professional help.)


16 posted on 08/24/2005 4:00:02 AM PDT by schwing_wifey (Coffee, Today's Toons, and Flaming Trolls - Yeeeaaaarrrgggggg PDT +9hours)
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To: Salman

HEY, what do you suppose Mohammed would "teach" as to a wife with a license to carry? A wife with personal defenses and self worth in tact? "Beat" her, I'm thinking. Seems about all he could come up with...


17 posted on 08/24/2005 4:00:37 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS

It is never acceptable to beat your wife. Ever.

No loving God would allow it. Clearly he is trying to tell us that Islam, is not a loving god trying to help his children improve the human condition.


18 posted on 08/24/2005 4:00:50 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Salman
"I always have to beats my Ho when she be misbehavin'"...Rahim.
19 posted on 08/24/2005 4:01:32 AM PDT by Khurkris (Ain't life funny?)
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To: Salman

The foolish author destroys his own argument when he quotes from the Koran ;" And to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct" so a woman can be punished based upon her husbands fear?...what slop!


20 posted on 08/24/2005 4:01:36 AM PDT by JABBERBONK (tHE)
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