Posted on 08/24/2005 2:45:05 PM PDT by Libloather
I agree, but I've always argued with folks that the Perot situation shows that people will actually use other options if they are present. I consider that election result to be more a reflection of Bush Sr's shortcommings. It shouldn't, however, be seen as a necessity for restricting options at the ballot box - although IVR is certainly a reasonable option.
We have to be careful on our definitions of liberals, libertarians, and conservatives, IMHO. When I tend to think of a conservative, I tend to think about our present issue with our Republican leaders who support government pork, a middle ground on government welfare, open borders, and moral issues. But a Regan conservative would support no pork, very little government welfare, secure borders, and moral issues. A libertarian would support no pork, no welfare, open borders, and no moral restrictions. Obviously I can't support the liberal, the modern conservative view, or the strictly libertarian view. I strongly support the Regan conservative view. I think halfway between modern conservative and libertarian is the Regan conservative. Many people call themselves libertarians who are actually Regan conservatives. They have just become so disenfranchised with modern Republicans that they no longer wish to be called conservatives.
*clapping!*
You pretty much nailed it there, buddy.
Very well done!
I'd have to modify your statement as Leapfrog was quick to point it out.
"A libertarian would support no pork, no welfare, open borders, and no federally enforced moral restrictions. "
Some folks think morality should be self imposed, not imposed by the government. That doesn't mean Libertarians or others with similar views lack morals, it means they see the danger in giving government the authority to enforce them.
That's a great line! I didn't know you could be a man of so few words--numbers?--considering those genes! :)
Me too--fellow Constitution Party guy. But frankly if I thought a Liberatarian could carry off an election over a republican and most definetly a national socialist...oops I mean democrat I'd vote for the Liberatarian (providing one of our guys wasnt running). They may have whacked out views on some things but there wouldnt be drugs on the street and open immigration everywhere were one elected as a county commissioner or state representative or some such lower office. But provided a conservative majority there would be lower taxes, less government spending and regulation.
But isn't the act of litigating the initiation of force?
I thought they didn't believe in that!
Strom Thurmond was 1st elected Senator on a write-in, IIRC.
I will still never understand the value of people who say they are for freedom attacking fellow freedom fighters first and actually fighting for freedom little or not at all. To use your screen name to define yourself by who you loathe proves a spiritual and intellectual vacuum within.
Any one who is truly for more Liberty is my friend and ally, and that most emphatically includes the Constitution Party and conservatives of any party (or none) who actually practice what they preach.
We can disagree on many issues, but should be united on the general goal -- freedom! If you are against having more choices on the ballot then you are worse that a Soviet or Chinese communist atheist. At least they are honest about trying to destroy God and freedom. I'm not so arrogant to say that God is on the Libertarian side, but I will say the attacks here against us are nothing more than direct quotes from Satan.
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