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“This is a Court. Tuck in Your Shirt.”
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 27 August 2005 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 08/25/2005 12:36:01 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

I spent two days recently in the Circuit Court for Macon County, North Carolina, waiting to be a witness. The Bailiff called people to order, “This is a Court. Tuck in your shirt.” It’s an indication of folks hereabouts that half the males stood up and tucked in their shirts.

At the end of this I have a suggestion for y’all. Here’s what I saw in this Court.

First, of a total of more than 200 people, only two non-lawyers were wearing suits and ties. Maybe elsewhere, folks put on their best duds to go to court, but not in the Blue Ridge.

But it’s issues, not clothes, that make the lower-level trial courts a human comedy of citizens and law. There were three basic categories of citizens in court: first, veteran criminals, who’d committed crimes before, crimes now, and were apt candidates for future crimes.

Second, smaller category, were one-time criminals, people who’d run afoul of the law once, or a few times, but who might straighten up and fly right. The largest category were the friends, family, neighbors, and others, in court to support, testify, and participate however unwillingly in the law.

You’ll note I didn’t mention innocent defendants; there were very few. This court was handling non-jury crimes, no murders, armed robberies, rapes, arsons, the stock in trade of crime on TV and in books,. Such crimes were bumped up to the jury docket. These defendants either pleaded guilty (about 80%) or were found guilty (about 13%). And even of the roughly 7% who were found not guilty, many of them could have been convicted on the evidence presented.

What do these cases say about the state of justice in Western Carolina? First, the judge was giving most defendants two bites at the apple. If there was any significant doubt, or if he just wanted to give the defendant a break, the judge was finding them not guilty. Second, he was generous in suspending the sentences, and giving them on probation.

Sadly, many defendants granted mercy, refused to accept it. About a fifth of all the hearings were for probation violations. The defendants had failed to abide the terms. And, they got sent to jail despite their pleas for “another chance.”

Very unfortunate were the young defendants there with their parents. The attorneys were using “Mr. and Mrs. Smith” as stage props to get Junior a lighter sentence. Ironically, in most such cases, if Junior had been listening to his parents, they wouldn’t have been needed to help Junior get probation. The worst of these cases was a young man with some mental difficulties, who had attacked his parents with a chair. Still, they were standing by him. The judge cut him a lot of slack, and wished him well with his medical and psychological programs.

Then there is the small but common category of battered wives who set up for more of the same. These are women who call the police in a panic when they are being beaten up. They may press charges. But when they get to court two months later, they seek to drop the charges because “he loves me” or “he supports the children.” One wife came into court using a walker because she’d been beaten and kicked in the head. She was not forgiving.

More typical, unfortunately, was a woman asking that her husband’s bail be lowered and the assault charges dropped, so he could get out and resume work as a roofer. The Assistant States Attorney, an able and very overworked young woman, objected. She pointed out the details. The husband had (allegedly) dragged his wife to a river, held her head under water, handcuffed her in his truck threatening to kill her, and stabbed her several times, including a gash that took 14 stitches.

For the aggressive roofer, the judge refused the wife’s request. He recognized what she did not. She was a candidate to be maimed or murdered by her husband. Because attempted murder is a crime against society, not just the victim, the judge was within his rights.

And the winner in highest bail set for failure to appeal was a name everyone would recognize: Alexander Hamilton, at $3,000.

So, what’s my recommendation to you? Find your nearest non-jury, criminal court. Go early. Sit at the front. Hear everything. Observe how well, or poorly, justice is administered in your neck of the woods. I guar-on-d*mn-tee an enlightening experience.

About the Author: John Armor is a First Amendment attorney and author who lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Free Republic; Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: circuitcourt; criminals; innocent; judges; maconcounty; notguilty; probation; wifebeaters; witnesses
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I think y'all will appreciate this. I hope that y'all will accept the challenge at the end.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 08/25/2005 12:36:02 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob

I might just do that. Sounds interesting.


2 posted on 08/25/2005 12:45:48 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Congressman Billybob

Congressman, thanks. I'll raise your challenge one notch, using public record information of course....

Crimes should be reported as follows:

Alexander Hamilton, 34, of 2333 Xerxes Way, Podunk, Anystate, whose parents invite the general public to assist them in the holding to accountability their rapscallion of an overgrown boy who's killing his mother just like Cindy Sheehan is killing hers....


/facetiousness OFF


3 posted on 08/25/2005 12:51:54 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Been there, done that, many times.
First in my wayward youth, then later as a police officer. (I've been on both sides of the bars. I like this side better)
As a former inner city police officer I'd estimate half of all my calls were domestics, most of which I could have written the report before I got there. Nearly all of them were alcohol related. The verbal escalated to him smacking her around. He was long gone by the time I got there. I would get an ass chewing for taking so long to get there, nevermind I only recieved the call 2 minutes earlier.
The next day they would sober up and be back in love again, and so on, and so on.
Not my cup of tea.
Currently looking at getting into corrections. More time for ministering to people, as opposed to writing report after report as fast as possible.

Oh yeah, great article =)

4 posted on 08/25/2005 12:51:55 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Were there any bothers and sisters or first cousins there to get married?


5 posted on 08/25/2005 12:56:21 AM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: Manic_Episode
Thank you very much. I always appreciate comments from those who've been there, done that, bought the T-shirt.

John / Billybob
6 posted on 08/25/2005 12:56:52 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (I'm on the road, now. Contact me at John_Armor@aya.edu.net.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
It is the same in the Chicago suburbs. I've been in court (traffic, criminal and civil) as a PI and seen my share of disrespectful attire. I even have seen one guy wear a green t-shirt with the McDonald's "M" arch logo with "Marijuana" printed on it. Not to mention (not noted in the article too) that 80 percent needed Spanish speaking interpreters.
7 posted on 08/25/2005 12:58:02 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: fish hawk

Though all judges have the power to marry people in NC, they do that in special circumstances and times. No hints of marriage occurred in these courts while in business.

John


8 posted on 08/25/2005 12:58:32 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (I'm on the road, now. Contact me at John_Armor@aya.edu.net.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I've done just that and come away wretching at the arrogance of the absolute imbecile of a judge handing out decrees. If the defendent pleaded "guilty," he was fined and let go, if he/she pleaded "not guilty," he was thrown in jail.

Whatever brought in money to the court.

9 posted on 08/25/2005 12:59:49 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Manic_Episode
Re: Domestics

"Not my cup of tea. "

Walking in blind into a home in the heat of an argument. A woman holding a kitchen knife and a guy with a tire jack...SCREAMING. And when entering the hose, they both look at YOU and want to talk...CLOSE.

But the woman was just plain 'ol cooking up dinner, while the guy was outside changin' a tire. Someone forgot to pay the rent and all heck breaks loose.

10 posted on 08/25/2005 1:03:22 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: nightdriver
"Whatever brought in money to the court."

With the long line of cars, one can easily mistake the courthouse on Monday morning with the Bank on Friday. It's deposit time.

11 posted on 08/25/2005 1:07:02 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Sorry my FRiend, I was just being a late night smart ass. You know, all those jokes about the south.
12 posted on 08/25/2005 1:11:08 AM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"You might be a redneck if you go to court and you and your lawyer are the only ones wearing ties."


13 posted on 08/25/2005 1:18:09 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
So, what’s my recommendation to you? Find your nearest non-jury, criminal court. Go early. Sit at the front. Hear everything. Observe how well, or poorly, justice is administered in your neck of the woods. I guar-on-d*mn-tee an enlightening experience.

I agree with this challenge 110%. Several times while going to school, I had to attend court as part of outside assignments for business law classes. A most interesting time and very revealing what's going on with some of your fellow citizens. I think that every teenager ought to have to spend a day observing this process--many lessons to be learned. Another "interesting" tour is of the local jail or lock-up facility--it reinforced a "deterrence" lesson with me (as a responsible adult).

14 posted on 08/25/2005 1:38:44 AM PDT by Skybird
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To: Congressman Billybob
What's a "yute?"


15 posted on 08/25/2005 1:48:29 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Intriguing. I've surved on a criminal jury and that was a disturbing experience. I'm not surprised at the outcome of the celebrity trials here in California. Partly, I'm surprised any *justice* is actually handed out.


16 posted on 08/25/2005 2:28:42 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Cindy Sheehan: "All You Are Saying Is Give APPEASEMENT A Chance!")
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To: WestVirginiaRebel; Congressman Billybob
I had jury duty here in the Bluegrass (Commonwealth of Kentucky) last fall. Of the 75 or so in the jury pool the only men wearing clothes I would have considered appropriate for court were myself and a retired colonel who is now a local bank VP. There were a few retired folks who did a little better than the average, and considering they were more than likely on a fixed income, that is okay. However, the majority were dressed like crap for being in a court room. They looked like they were just out of bed, had not shaved in two days, clothes had not seen a washer in a week, didn't know the purpose of an iron. The list could go on and on.
17 posted on 08/25/2005 2:46:15 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Congressman Billybob

For a first hand glimpse at yhe inner workings of the asylum..visit Landlord-Tenant court in NYC..


18 posted on 08/25/2005 2:47:27 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: nightdriver; Congressman Billybob
Whatever brought in money to the court.

Defense Attorney: Your Honor, I'd like another continuance.
Judge: You've already had two.
Defense Attorney: But Your Honor, one of our most important witnesses, "Mr. Green", has failed to show up.
Judge: Three week continuance granted!

19 posted on 08/25/2005 3:05:44 AM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
First, of a total of more than 200 people, only two non-lawyers were wearing suits and ties. Maybe elsewhere, folks put on their best duds to go to court, but not in the Blue Ridge.

the average goob around here (western NY)doesnt have a suit because he's too damned strapped trying to put hamburger helper on the plate and pay for the outrageous tax burden.

Its also a sign of respect for the court

I lost that years ago

I will say though - I was absolutely amazed on having been called to a jury pool once, that I was about the only juror who hadnt been pinched for DUI/DWI (I dont drink)

20 posted on 08/25/2005 3:18:32 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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