Posted on 08/25/2005 12:36:42 PM PDT by cpforlife.org
San Francisco, CA (LifeNews.com) -- The author of a new study discounting evidence of the pain unborn children feel during abortions formerly worked at a pro-abortion organization. Also, the school where the study was conducted, the University of California at San Francisco, has been cited as a bastion of activism in favor of abortion. The lead author of the study is Susan J. Lee, a UCSF medical student who once worked for NARAL, an abortion advocacy group that recently came under fire for falsely accusing Supreme Court nominee John Roberts of backing abortion-related violence.
Meanwhile, another author, UCSF obstetrician-gynecologist Eleanor Drey, is the medical director of the abortion center at San Francisco General Hospital.
The Journal of the American Medical Association published their study today, which claims unborn children don't feel pain until 29 weeks into pregnancy, but JAMA did not include any information about the author's ties to the pro-abortion group and abortion business.
One of the authors is on the staff of UCSF's Center for Reproductive Health Research and Policy (CRHRP).
In a monograph about CRHRP, abortion activist Carol E. Joffe wrote, "What UCSF has done, more so than any other medical institution I can think of, has been to integrate abortion into mainstream medical care."
"The message that this medical school gives the rest of medicine is that abortion is a normal part of women's reproductive health," Joffe wrote about the university.
Meanwhile, experts in fetal pain dispute the study's findings.
Neurologist Dr. Paul Ranalli says the 20-30 week child in the womb may even feel more pain than an adult. He adds that the "pain impulse connections in the spinal cord link up and reach the thalamus (the brains reception center): at 7-20 weeks."
Father Frank Pavone, the director of Priests for Life, says the USCF study doesn't settle the debate on fetal pain.
"The disputed report coming out of the University of California, indicating that pain may not be felt by unborn children during abortions in early pregnancy, hardly settles the matter scientifically," Pavone said.
"Other studies over the last 15 years around the world show evidence of earlier fetal pain. Research has to continue. Meanwhile, it makes sense to err on the side of caution," Father Pavone explained.
Pavone also pointed out that while the possibility of pain should give us pause regarding abortion, the absence of pain does not justify killing unborn children.
"There are many painless ways to kill both born and unborn. That doesn't make it right," he concluded.
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Below are excerpts from Fr. Frank Pavones August 15, 2005 newsletter:
In 1994, an article in the prestigious British medical journal, the Lancet, revealed hormonal stress reactions in the fetus. The article concluded with the recommendation that painkillers be used when surgery is done on the fetus. The authors wrote, "This applies not just to diagnostic and therapeutic procedures on the fetus, but possibly also to termination of pregnancy, especially by surgical techniques involving dismemberment."
In 1991, scientific advisors to the Federal Medical Council in Germany had made a similar recommendation.
In August 2001, Great Britain's Medical Research Council concluded that pain perception may be as early as 20 weeks; other studies place it as early as 10 weeks.
It should be noted that each year in the United States alone, over 18,000 abortions take place at 21 or more weeks of pregnancy.
The Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act has now been introduced in Congress, to inform women having abortions at 20 weeks or more that their baby may feel pain. The legislation deserves our support. It would require that the mother be given the option to provide painkillers to her baby. This is not to justify abortion, but will certainly make many think twice about it. http://www.priestsforlife.org/columns/columns2005/05-08-15unbornpain.htm
Fetal Pain: Unborn babies suffer pain while they are being killed by abortion.
That is the startling conclusion of doctors and researchers, whose recent discoveries reveal the previously unknown sensory capacities of unborn children.
Until recently, most neonatalogists believed that babies in the womb were mostly immune to feeling pain. With the advent of sonograms and live-action ultrasound images, doctors and nurses began to see unborn babies at 20 weeks gestation react physically to outside stimuli such as sound, light and touch.
The sense of touch is so acute that even a single human hair drawn across an unborn child's palm causes the baby to make a fist.
More recently, surgeons entering the womb to perform corrective procedures on tiny unborn children have found that those babies will flinch, jerk and recoil from sharp objects and incisions.
"In instances when a fetal bladder is obstructed and we need to go in and puncture it to drain the bladder, the unborn baby will pull away," explains Dr. Steven Calvin, a practicing perinatologist and chair of the Program in Human Rights in Medicine at the University of Minnesota, where he also teaches obstetrics. "The neural pathways are present for pain to be experienced quite early by unborn babies."
The pain is agonizing
Since medical researchers now widely agree that unborn babies at 20 to 24 weeks gestation experience pain during prenatal surgery, they most certainly feel pain during abortion.
The obvious and horrifying conclusion is that millions of aborted unborn children have silently suffered greatly in their final minutes of life.
The most common methods used to abort unborn babies at 20 weeks gestation or more involve sharp-edged instruments to cut, tear and twist the baby's body into pieces, which are extracted from the womb. In a partial-birth abortion, the unborn baby is delivered feet first, except for the head, which is punctured at the base of the skull with a sharp object. The brains are then suctioned out, killing the child.
Abortion lies revealed
For decades, abortionists and abortion advocates have tried to convince people that physical suffering for unborn children during abortion is a myth.
Abortion became legal in the United States before sonograms became prevalent or photos of human life in the womb were readily accessible. Abortion became legal before researchers had taken time to study the issue of fetal pain. However, mounting new scientific evidence is removing any doubt that unborn children do, indeed, feel intense pain. Once again, the abortion industry's lies to the public have been uncovered.
Unborn babies have heightened sensitivities
According to Dr. Paul Ranalli, neurologist at the University of Toronto, unborn babies between 20 and 30 weeks development may actually feel pain more intensely than adults. He says this is a "uniquely vulnerable time, since the pain system is fully established; yet the higher-level pain-modifying system has barely begun to develop." Given the medical evidence that unborn babies experience pain, compassionate people are viewing abortion more and more as an inhumane and intolerable brutality against defenseless human beings.
Online Resources about fetal pain:
http://www.mccl.org/fp_news/fetal_pain.htm
http://www.abortionfacts.com/fetal_development/fetal_pain.asp
http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_14.asp
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/Fetal_Pain/
But only corporate researchers from big oil, big tobacco, ADM, etc., have an agenda. < / sarcasm >
Photo of 20 week old UNBORN BABY.
From http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/fetaldevelopment.htm
How can anybody trust people who are experts at getting the results they desire. And why doesn't the JAMA ask about the motivations of the people who conduct studies such as this.
Any study which addresses a politically charged issue should have the corresponding skeptical questions regarding the people involved in the study.
The same kind of skeptical questionsing should also occur regarding any global warming study.
Why does it matter if they can feel pain or not? Is that supposed to help the pro-abortion argument? Is it okay to stab a quadriplegic or paraplegic in the leg with a butcher knife because they can't feel any pain? This is the dumbest argument.
Fetal Pain
A Systematic Multidisciplinary Review of the Evidence
Susan J. Lee, JD; Henry J. Peter Ralston, MD; Eleanor A. Drey, MD, EdM; John Colin Partridge, MD, MPH; Mark A. Rosen, MD
JAMA. 2005;294:947-954.
Context: Proposed federal legislation would require physicians to inform women seeking abortions at 20 or more weeks after fertilization that the fetus feels pain and to offer anesthesia administered directly to the fetus. This article examines whether a fetus feels pain and if so, whether safe and effective techniques exist for providing direct fetal anesthesia or analgesia in the context of therapeutic procedures or abortion.
This isn't scennce, it's politics as practiced by scientists with an agenda. In this case the agenda is killing unborn babies.
It undoubtedly is a stupid argument but the issue here is that scientists are using pretend science to advance political ideology. Have you heard any outcry from the scientific community? Me either and therein lies a lesson.
NATIONAL RIGHT TO LIFE:
GULLIBLE TREATMENT OF TRUMPED UP "STUDY" ON FETAL PAIN ISSUE SHOULD EMBARRASS J.A.M.A.
AND SOME JOURNALISTS
This is an update from the National Right to Life Committee, 202-626-8825, issued Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 4 PM EDT. For further updates on this subject, watch http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/fetal_pain/index.html
This memo offers a number of points of information regarding the article "Fetal Pain: A Systematic Multidisciplinary Review of the Evidence," published in the August 24 edition of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). Any of the material below, if not otherwise attributed, can be attributed to NRLC Legislative Director Douglas Johnson (Legfederal@aol.com), who prepared this memorandum.
BASIC OBJECTIONS
1. The JAMA article was produced by pro-abortion activists. There is no new laboratory research reported in the article -- it is merely a commentary on a selection of existing medical literature. The authors purport to show that there is no good evidence that human fetuses feel pain before 29 weeks (during the seventh month). The authors' conclusion (which was predetermined by their political agenda -- see below) is disputed by experts with far more extensive credentials in pain research than any of the authors. These independent authorities say that there is substantial evidence from multiple lines of research that unborn humans can perceive pain during the fifth and sixth months (i.e., by 20 weeks gestational age), and perhaps somewhat earlier.
2. For example, Dr. Kanwaljeet S. Anand, a pain researcher who holds tenured chairs in pediatrics, anesthesiology, pharmacology, and neurobiology at the University of Arkansas, said in a document accepted as expert by a federal court, "It is my opinion that the human fetus possesses the ability to experience pain from 20 weeks of gestation, if not earlier, and that pain perceived by a fetus is possibly more intense than that perceived by newborns or older children." Read Dr. Anand's complete statement entered in federal court, summarizing the scientific evidence, here. In a USA Today article (August 25), Dr. Anand predicted that JAMA's publication of the article would "inflame a lot of scientists who are . . . far more knowledgeable in this area than the authors appear to be."
3. A similar review published in September 1999 in the British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology (the leading ob-gyn journal in the UK) concluded: "Given the anatomical evidence, it is possible that the fetus can feel pain from 20 weeks and is caused distress by interventions from as early as 15 or 16 weeks." (Article available in PDF format here.)
4. The JAMA authors arrive at their "conclusion" through a highly tendentious methodology that could, for the most part, also be used to argue that there is no proof that animals really feel pain and no proof that premature newborn humans really feel pain (although the authors do not address those subjects). There are innumerable state and federal laws intended to reduce the suffering of animals, even though it is impossible to "prove" that their "experience" of pain is subjectively the same as that of the lawmakers who have enacted these regulations.
THE EVIDENCE FROM PREMATURELY BORN INFANTS
5. Infants born as early as 23 or 24 weeks now commonly survive long term in neonatal intensive care units. Neonatologists confirm that they react negatively to painful stimuli -- for example, by grimacing, withdrawing, and whimpering. When they must receive surgical procedures, they are given drugs to prevent pain. Yet, the JAMA authors assert that there is no credible evidence of fetal pain until 29 weeks -- which is five or six weeks later. If these babies feel pain in the incubator, then they also feel pain in the womb. If the newborn at 23 weeks demonstrates aversion to pain and needs protection from pain, the same is true of the 24-week (or 25-week, 26-week, 27-week, or 28-week) unborn child.
6. As Dr. Paul Ranalli, professor of neurology at the University of Toronto, commented on the paper: "Across the nation, Neonatal Intensive Care Units (NICUs) are full of bravely struggling preemies . . . The only difference between a child in the womb at this stage, or one born and cared for in an incubator, is how they receive oxygen -- either through the umbilical cord or through the lungs. There is no difference in their nervous systems. Their article sets back humane pediatric medicine 20 years, back to a time when doctors still believed babies could not feel pain." In testimony before a congressional committee in 1996, Dr. Jean A. Wright, then a pediatric pain specialist at Emory University, said: "Preterm infants who are born and delivered at 23 weeks of gestation show very highly specific and well-coordinated physiologic and behavioral responses to pain which is just like older infants." (Even the paper notes in passing, "Normal EEG patterns have been characterized for neonates as young as 24 weeks' postconceptual age.")
THE VIOLENCE OF ABORTION METHODS USED
7. The gross trauma inflicted on the unborn human by abortion methods used in the fifth and sixth months far exceed anything that would be done to a premature newborn at the same stage of development. The most common abortion method, the so-called "D&E," involves tearing arms and legs off of the unanesthetized unborn child, then crushing the skull. (Click here to see a series of professional medical school illustrations of this method.) Thousands of times annually, the partial-birth abortion method is used, which involves mostly delivering the living premature infant, feet first, and then puncturing the skull with scissors or a pointed metal tube (to see medically accurate illustrations of this method, click here). To review material presented to Congress by leading anesthesiologists and other medical experts with varying positions on legal abortion, click here.
THE ORIGINS OF THE PAPER
8. The so-called "study" was produced by pro-abortion activists and a well-known practitioner of late abortions -- but, with a few notable exceptions, that readily available information was omitted or greatly minimized by mainstream media outlets that initially covered story on August 23 and 24, including ABC World News Tonight, the Associated Press, and the New York Times.
9. The lead author of the article, Susan J. Lee, who is now a medical student, was previously employed as a lawyer by NARAL, the pro-abortion political advocacy organization (Knight Ridder, August 24).
10. One of Lee's four co-authors, Dr. Eleanor A. Drey, is the director of the largest abortion clinic in San Francisco (San Francisco Chronicle, March 31, 2004, and Knight Ridder, August 24, 2005). According to Dr. Drey, the abortion facility that she runs performs about 600 abortions a year between the 20th and 23rd weeks of pregnancy (i.e., in the fifth and sixth months). (San Francisco Chronicle, March 31, 2004) Drey is a prominent critic of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, and a self-described activist. (In a laudatory profile in the newsletter of Physicians for Reproductive Choice and Health, September 2004, it was noted that "much of Dr. Drey's research centers on repeat and second-trimester procedures . . .," and quotes Drey as saying, "I am very lucky because I get to train residents and medical students, and I really do feel that it's a type of activism.") Drey is also on the staff of the Center for Reproductive Health Research and Policy (CRHRP) at the University of California, San Francisco -- a pro-abortion propaganda and training center. Much of this information was available through even a very cursory Google search, and some of it was provided to journalists who contacted NRLC about the embargoed JAMA paper on August 22-23, but few saw fit to mention these connections in their initial reports.
11. However, one reporter (Knight Ridder's Marie McCullough) did contact JAMA editor-in-chief Catherine D. DeAngelis regarding the ties of Lee and Drey. McCullough reported that DeAngelis "said she was unaware of this, and acknowledged it might create an appearance of bias that could hurt the journal's credibility. 'This is the first I've heard about it,' she said. 'We ask them to reveal any conflict of interest. I would have published' the disclosure if it had been made." (Knight Ridder, August 24, 2005) A day later, DeAngelis told USA Today that the affiliations of Drey and Lee "aren't relevant," but again said that the ties should have been disclosed. If she really thought the affiliations were not relevant, why would she say that they should have been disclosed? If the authors of a review of the same issue by doctors employed by pro-life advocacy groups had been submitted or published, would those affiliations have been ignored by journalists?
12. Dr. David Grimes, a vice-president of Family Health International, has been relied on by CNN, the New York Times, and some other media as a purported expert to defend the paper. Dr. Grimes has made pro-abortion advocacy a central element of his career for decades. (During the time he worked for the CDC in the 1980s, his off-hours work at a local late-abortion facility sparked protests from some pro-life activists.)
In addition, Grimes was previously the chief of the Department of Obstetrics, Gynecology and Reproductive Sciences at the San Francisco General Hospital -- the very same institution where author Drey directs the abortion clinic.
THE FINDINGS OF A FEDERAL COURT
13. In 2004, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York received extensive testimony regarding fetal pain from experts on both sides, including doctors who perform many late abortions, as part of a legal challenge to the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act. Although the subsequent opinion struck down the ban as inconsistent with a 2000 U.S. Supreme Court ruling (this is being appealed), the court made certain formal "findings of fact," among these: "The Court finds that the testimony at trial and before Congress establishes that D&X [partial-birth abortion] is a gruesome, brutal, barbaric, and uncivilized medical procedure. Dr. Anand's testimony, which went unrebutted by Plaintiffs, is credible evidence that D&X abortions subject fetuses to severe pain. Notwithstanding this evidence, some of Plaintiffs' experts testified that fetal pain does not concern them, and that some do not convey to their patients that their fetuses may undergo severe pain during a D&X." (This illustrates that abortionists will not raise the question of pain, at any stage of pregnancy, unless they are required to do so.)
UNBORN CHILD PAIN AWARENESS ACT (S. 51, H.R. 356)
14. The obvious purpose of the authors of the JAMA paper was to damage the prospects for the Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act (S. 51, H.R. 356). This bill would require that abortion providers give women seeking abortions after 20 weeks after fertilization (22 weeks gestation) certain basic information on the substantial evidence that their unborn children may experience pain while being aborted, and advise them regarding any available methods to reduce or eliminate such pain. The bill explicitly states that the abortion provider may offer his or her own opinions and advice regarding the question, including discussion of any risks to the mother of methods of reducing the pain of the unborn child. The authors, in their final paragraph, explicitly oppose any requirement that abortionists raise the pain issue in any fashion, at least during the fifth and sixth months.
15. It is noteworthy, however, that in January, 2005, NARAL President Nancy Keenan issued a statement that NARAL "does not intend to oppose" the bill, because "pro-choice Americans have always believed that women deserve access to all the information relevant to their reproductive health decisions." (A complete reproduction of the NARAL statement is available on request from NRLC at Legfederal@aol.com.)
16. Spokepersons for some groups of abortion providers say that they object to the Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act because it would require that abortionists recite a "script" advising women who are seeking abortions after 22 weeks gestational age (20 weeks from fertilization) that there is "substantial evidence" that abortion will inflict pain (the bill also explicitly says that the abortionist may also offer whatever opinions he or she wishes regarding the issue and the risks of any optional pain relieving methods). But in truth, abortion providers, like the authors of the paper, object not just to a "script" but to any requirement whatever that women be provided with any information on the subject. They have also objected to laws enacted in Arkansas and Georgia that require only the provision of printed information prepared by the state health agencies, and to a Minnesota law that merely requires that the abortionist tell the woman "whether or not an anesthetic or analgesic would eliminate or alleviate organic pain to the unborn child caused by the particular method of abortion to be employed and the particular medical benefits and risks associated with the particular anesthetic or analgesic." Apparently, the abortionists are taking the paternalistic stance that women are incapable of evaluating such information and giving it whatever weight they think it deserves.
ADMINISTERING ANESTHESIA OR ANALGESICS
17. The authors of the JAMA paper say that "no established protocols exist for administering anesthesia or analgesia directly to the fetus for minimally invasive fetal procedures or abortions." (p. 952) Yet, some abortions are performed by administering toxins into the amniotic sac (or even directly into the fetal heart) with a needle, precisely guided by ultrasound. Moreover, in cases of women carrying multiple unborn humans, abortionists sometimes engage in "selective reduction," in which some of the fetuses are killed by stabbing them directly in their hearts with a needle guided by ultrasound. One suspects, therefore, that any current lack of methods of safely administering pain-reducing drugs to a fetus in utero relate more the fact that abortionists just don't care about fetal pain and have not developed such methods, rather than to any insurmountable technical obstacles. In any case, under the Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act, a woman considering an abortion after 20 weeks gestational age would be given information on the current state of the art, including the abortionist's own assessment of any risks, to evaluate as she sees fit.
18. Paul Ranalli, professor of neurology at the University of Toronto, reports, "Experts from Britain and France have proposed safe and effective fetal anesthesia protocols. (Ranalli cites the 1997 Working Party Report on Fetal Pain by the UK's Royal College of Obstetrics and Gynecology and "La douleur du foetus," Mahieu-Caputo D, Dommergues M et al, Presse Med 2000; 29:663-9, recommending Sulfentanyl 1 ug/kg and Pentothal 10 ug/kg.) Ranalli also writes that the JAMA paper itself "includes experimental animal evidence that suggests an effective intra-amniotic needle injection could spare the fetus pain, without the need to give the mother any additional anesthetic" (citing material on JAMA p. 952, column 1).
NUMBERS OF ABORTION
19. According to the JAMA paper, relying on a CDC report, about 1.4 percent of the abortions performed in the U.S. are performed at or after 21 weeks gestational age. If so, that would be over 18,000 abortions annually nationwide -- hardly inconsequential to anyone concerned with inflicting pain on a sentient young human. (Note: That figure omits abortions performed at 20 weeks gestational age.) It is worth noting that the CDC reports are very incomplete. Indeed, the report itself makes it clear that the CDC received no abortion reports from California -- so none of the 600 abortions performed annually at 20-23 weeks in Dr. Drey's abortion clinic are reflected in the CDC figures.
Also, in brief: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471033/posts
TRUTH!!!!
You stated, quite clearly: "This isn't science, it's politics as practiced by scientists with an agenda. In this case the agenda is killing unborn babies." I would add only that these ghouls are willingly and/or unwittingly gladly serving the fundamental goal of Evil, the destruction of those whom God loves, most particularly the little ones in the human family. 'May God remove these ghouls from our midst in swift judgement' is all I can muster into my tired brain when confronted with such evil and such determination to promote Evil.
Tell the Journal of the American Medical Assn. (JAMA) that they have NO BUSINESS publishing a political story as "science"........
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/feedback
Agreed!
It matters because many average people who do not really care are able to care when they know the baby feels pain. It is a first step to helping them see the light. It is true that God created the child in the womb to feel pain at a very young age. You and I know that life is sacred and no one has the right to take an innocent life no matter how much pain the person may or may not feel but many people just aren't there yet and they need to start realizing that these children are people and deserve our protection. Sympathy for these children who feel pain is not a bad thing.
It really makes me sick to think that a doctor who has been trained to save life is performing abortions. How do they live with themselves.
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