Posted on 08/28/2005 8:17:20 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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"What we've managed to do so far at the border is to keep people from going back. I don't know that we've stopped anyone who really wants to get in from getting in.We've made it far more expensive and far more dangerous to come across, so those who are coming for work are going to come and stay."
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"There's this fallacy that there's a set level of foreign labour that the economy is going to suck in, so let's accommodate more of it, all of it, and then illegal immigration will shrink.The fact is immigration always creates more immigration."
Actually we have good laws on the books but they aren't enforced and they need a tiny bit of revision. If employer sanctions were given real teeth 10 years ago we wouldn't be in the mess we're in. A verifiable SS number database is cheap and easy and should have been compulsory for all employees to be verified against it. We could still do it today and at least 50% of illegals would self-deport.
That is the truth and is why our permanent illegal resident population is growing.
The only way to stop illegal immigration is to go after those that employ them and stop giving then handouts.
We don't need 10,000 BP Agents. We need 10,000 Agents whose job is to find illegal alien employers, jail them and seize the business.
...Jeff Flake's conservatism is of a different brand...
Yeah, he's an America hating commie!
The Vikings started out as migrant labor.
"receive legal status, though only after big fines "
Big fine = $ 2,000.00
With his attitude he has the perfect name, Flake!!!!
Couldn't agree more, we had that kind of enforcement 25 or 30 years ago and even in Los Angeles there wern't that many illegals and the ones that got thru were kicked out in short order.
Even 20 years ago very few got north of San Diego County, there were border patrol vehicles all over rounding them up as fast as they arrived.
The Vikings started out as migrant labor?
Yeah, they were migratory, all right. But they sure weren't doing the jobs that the Russians or the English or the Scottish or the Germans "didn't want to do". They came, they saw, they conquered, and they didn't have the governments of the lands they subjugated begging for their votes or their fruit-picking skills, either.
Is 'Special Order 40' still in effect for L.A.?
That may be the most effective way, but you will find that the political reality is that American citizens don't want the businesses in their own communities to be closed down or have to relocate to find employees.
"prediction by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics that by 2010 there will be 10m unfilled jobs in the US, particularly in low-wage service industries."
Many of the companies that employ illegal laborers also employ citizens. They provide the tax base that supports the schools, police, hospitals, and other government services.
Some of us are trying to get immigration legislation passed and enforced at the state level here in TN. It's similar to the 1986 federal Act (minus the amnesty) with tougher penalties. If all the states did this, these people would not benefit from coming here and breaking our laws.
http://nashville.about.com/b/a/174914.htm
"Is 'Special Order 40' still in effect for L.A.?"
What's that?
I know it's a sancturay for them.
" political reality is that American citizens don't want the businesses in their own communities to be closed down or have to relocate to find employees."
The damn sure do!!!!
I think raping and pillaging are jobs most Americans don't want.
Q: What is Special Order 40?
A: "Special Order 40"is not a law, but a police mandate that originated in 1979 by former Police Chief Gates and the L.A. City Council to prevent police from inquiring about the immigration status of arrestees. The LAPD rightfully argues that without Special Order 40, innocent undocumented immigrant witnesses and victims would lose the trust of the LAPD and would not report crimes for fear of being deported. But Chief, in case you didn't know it, gang members are not innocent undocumented immigrant witnesses or victims.
The Sgt. Shultz "I know nothing" statute. Even if the police or other LA employee knows an illegal invader is an illegal alien, they've got to keep it a secret from the INS, ICE, etc...
DEPORT this Flake, flake!
It's not only in effect but more so with their new mayor who is an activist for the illegals.
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