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BREAKING!!! - Weldon says records were ordered destroyed!! (Able Danger)
Dom Giordano Show - 1210AM Radio "Big Talker" - Philadelphia | 29 AUG 05 | Vanity

Posted on 08/29/2005 6:23:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard

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To: dts32041

This is more than interesting! Good grief. What has ANY President done about illegal immigrants?


101 posted on 08/29/2005 6:48:29 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: atomicpossum
Remember: Pre-9-11 the big fear was that mil intelligence would be seen doing intelligence work on citizens, hence The Wall.

The Wall had nothing to do with DOD or military intelligence doing surveillance of citizens. The later comes under the Posse Comitatus Law. That's what the DOD lawyers were concerned about - erroneously.

The "Wall" was within the DOJ, period. The intelligence side of DOJ was not allowed to talk to the criminal justice side of DOJ. When the "Wall" memo was written, Gorelick had absolutely no control over what DOD did or did not do.

102 posted on 08/29/2005 6:48:42 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: SunnyD1182
Small Correction:

If Weldon's information ends up being proven true, this could end up being the biggest government scandal/coverup in the history of this country.

103 posted on 08/29/2005 6:49:04 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: devane617

Just wondering if there aren't destroyed documents in regards to the Oklahoma City Bombing and connections to Saddam Hussein and Iraq ( again Janet Reno as possible suspect)?


104 posted on 08/29/2005 6:49:11 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: VastRWCon

I agree, however, if it's on Bush's watch, the MSM will destroy him-whether he ordered it or not! All we'll hear is its "Bush's fault". And Clinton will get off scot free.


105 posted on 08/29/2005 6:49:23 PM PDT by A.Hun (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: AFPhys

And this is our mantra:

This is bigger than Watergate. And nobody died in Watergate.


106 posted on 08/29/2005 6:49:27 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: nopardons

Makes you wonder what else from the Clinton Administration was stuffed into burn bags.


107 posted on 08/29/2005 6:49:34 PM PDT by pieces of time
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To: RWR8189
Yes, that maybe true, but, the MSM and the Clintons got the " NEW MEDIA " to contend with, and the " NEW MEDIA " will be Weldon's cover and backup.
108 posted on 08/29/2005 6:49:49 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Lancey Howard

Oh man. But no surprise.


109 posted on 08/29/2005 6:50:05 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: A.Hun
Linda Tripp?
110 posted on 08/29/2005 6:50:18 PM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zat˘ichi: I don't see much)
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To: AFPhys

Ditto that. Big time.


111 posted on 08/29/2005 6:50:20 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Osage Orange

You have paid NO attention to the good that Specter has been doing this session of Congress, it is apparent.


112 posted on 08/29/2005 6:50:42 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: azsportsterman

You need to read this if you haven't already:

MILITARY 'SPIED' ON RICE (More Able Danger leaks from Specter staffers)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471803/posts

The private contractors working for the counter-terrorism unit Able Danger lost their jobs in May 2000. The firings following a series of analyses that Pentagon lawyers feared were dangerously close to violating laws banning the military from spying on Americans, sources said.

The Pentagon canceled its contract with the private firm shortly after the analysts — who were working on identifying al Qaeda operatives — produced a particularly controversial chart on proliferation of sensitive technology to China, the sources said.

Sources said the private contractors, using sophisticated computer software that sifts through massive amounts of raw data to establish patterns, came up with a chart of Chinese strategic and business connections in the U.S.


113 posted on 08/29/2005 6:50:48 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Rosemont

C) All of the above.


114 posted on 08/29/2005 6:50:52 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Rosemont
Sandy Burglar or the incompetent 9/11 political inquisition commission?

That's my take on it. It's all going to point to Sandy Burglar's pants.

115 posted on 08/29/2005 6:50:54 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: Crazieman

Why did we not get the truth about TWA800? Why the cover-up about Oklahoma City? How about our "peace keeping" mission in Somalia? There is a pattern you know. I think the question is why did Clinton want to create the false image that we were at peace with the world and the only terrorists we needed to be concerned about were domestic. Clinton's war was within his own country.


116 posted on 08/29/2005 6:51:25 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Just wondering if there aren't destroyed documents in regards to the Oklahoma City Bombing and connections to Saddam Hussein and Iraq ( again Janet Reno as possible suspect)?

You sound like someone who has read Jayna Davis's most excellent book "The Third Terrorist". That book opened a lot of eyes. And it's Clinton's former CIA Director James Woolsey who endorses her research, her book and says the world will owe her a debt of gratitude when the truth is known.

117 posted on 08/29/2005 6:51:30 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Can't you just hear Bill?

"Yeah, well, we gotta get Jamie on that commission. No matter what we do. She's got to be the one. Oh, and that sleazeball Benvenista. He's nearly as slimy a lawyer as I am a person...heh heh heh.."


118 posted on 08/29/2005 6:51:48 PM PDT by andie74 ("No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent." -- John Jay)
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To: Crazieman; kcar; atomicpossum
Nothing was breathing down their necks at the time.

Except the original WTC bombing, OKC, TWA800, the embasssy bombings, the Cole, and an overwhelming need to run screaming from anything that remotely resembled a terrorist attack. The denial, coverups and misapplied responses surrounding these events led directly to 911.

119 posted on 08/29/2005 6:52:04 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Fairtax.org)
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To: atomicpossum

Limbaugh interviewed Weldon about a week ago for the newsletter. I will be interested to see if he trusted Rush enough to give him some advance notice of things he will be revealing soon.


120 posted on 08/29/2005 6:52:07 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Lancey Howard
This new information is a bomb shell. Weldon needs to worry about his own safety. Get the word out to raise awareness for the safety of the Congressman. I wouldn't overlook the safety of his witnesses. I say you can never be to cautious.
121 posted on 08/29/2005 6:52:14 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: Peach

Wait Peach! I thought nobody died when Clinton lied.

(gagging) I am making myself sick.


122 posted on 08/29/2005 6:52:42 PM PDT by andie74 ("No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent." -- John Jay)
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To: ladyinred
We are assuming that it was during the Clinton adinistration. [Most likely was]

Let's go back just a bit. Let's look at it another way.
Remember President Bush got off to a very late start. Clinton held the keys to the offices that had been prepared for the new President.

I recall that Vise President Che any had to arrange for offices. the republicans had to rent them, provide desks, computers, telephones etc,etc,

Now to the clincher, if I remember correctly the new administration was working WITH the left over administration appointments. Very few had been changed and even Bush's appointments were being held up for one reason or the other.

Even the military was still filled with so many of the personal Clinton had promoted [probably still are]

Tennet and [can't spell his name] the F.B.I. director was a hold over.

I just happened to think it might be there were people in the government that were deliberately trying to put a "monkey wrench" in the workings of the new administration.

I'm probably just having some wild thoughts.
123 posted on 08/29/2005 6:52:42 PM PDT by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: Peach
This is bigger than Watergate. And nobody died in Watergate.

Oh that is good Peach!

124 posted on 08/29/2005 6:52:58 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: Peach

Joe McCarthy, Douglas MacArthur, and George C. Patton were right.


125 posted on 08/29/2005 6:53:04 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: A.Hun

Could have been after Rumsfeld was named Sec. of Defense. The partisans at DOD would not want Rummy to get wind of what was going on.


126 posted on 08/29/2005 6:53:23 PM PDT by pieces of time
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To: Lancey Howard
W O W !
127 posted on 08/29/2005 6:53:36 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: ladyinred
This is going to be like all government scandals, name the last bureaucrat hung out to dry, their names were kimbell and short.

I don't have much faith in the slave masters going into the room with a pistol and one round and doing the correct thing.

Look even BG Karpinski is walking around doing the lecture circuit and a couple of low levels in jail.

128 posted on 08/29/2005 6:53:50 PM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zat˘ichi: I don't see much)
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To: dts32041

OMG!


129 posted on 08/29/2005 6:53:57 PM PDT by A.Hun (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: ovrtaxt

You said it all, and I hope and pray someday the public finally KNOWS this!


130 posted on 08/29/2005 6:54:12 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: nopardons

"It's far, far, FAR better for this to break AFTER the Labor Day weekend. And in case you don't know, it took forever ( years ) for the MSM to get the populace interested in Watergate. So take a deep breathe, relax, and watch as this stuff grows and grows and GROWS, until it is SO explosive, that even the MSM has to talk about it."

Look, in case you haven't noticed, it has already broken. Now, ample time has been afforded, prior to 9-8, to spin, diffuse, downplay and deny.

Gotta strike while the iron's hot.


131 posted on 08/29/2005 6:54:17 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: Enchante

"This gets more and more 'interesting'..... what did the Clintonlites know and when did they know it???"

Sadly some good folks will probably have to go down to. I got the feeling a lot more is going to come out then just issues relating to known terrorist cells not being broken up.


132 posted on 08/29/2005 6:54:24 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Lancey Howard

Is Weldon running for '08?

Makes ya wonder.


133 posted on 08/29/2005 6:54:41 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Berger knew he was taking a big risk and therefore there had to be something worth "dying" for, just what it is we will never know.


134 posted on 08/29/2005 6:54:56 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: michaelt

his witness better stay out of ft. marcy park


135 posted on 08/29/2005 6:55:31 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

"How is it that this can wait until 9/8?" I don't know. If I were one of the people involved in destroying documents, I would want some protection. Weldon is obviously being protected, so I would imagine proper security is being taken care of. When is Clinton going to be in China again? I always worry when he is traveling. Make a right, cool name three lefts.


136 posted on 08/29/2005 6:55:35 PM PDT by TBall
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To: ladyinred

We have to use this when we talk to our elected officials and demand open hearings with under oath testimony.

Watergate had NOTHING to do with the security of the nation. This does. Massive cover-up. Sandy Berger. All of it.


137 posted on 08/29/2005 6:55:45 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Lancey Howard
broke the news that he will be giving a speech on September 8th (next Monday) during which he will present yet another 'Able Danger' witness.

Hope his witness is better than his calendar.

138 posted on 08/29/2005 6:55:56 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Peach

I have Ann Coulter to thank for the actual knowledge about Joe McCarthy....I was bamboozled by the way the media portrayed him.


139 posted on 08/29/2005 6:56:13 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Then what was Sandy Burglar stealing?


140 posted on 08/29/2005 6:56:19 PM PDT by anonymous_user (You gotta be passionate about something. I guess.)
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To: Lancey Howard

WOW


141 posted on 08/29/2005 6:56:24 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (The constitution is not in exile, it's in a nice safe deposit box in the Cayman Islands - Lileks)
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To: Lancey Howard

I'm picturing Special Prosecutor James E. Rogan. It kinda has a nice ring to it. As the Klingons say, "Revenge is a dish best served cold!"


142 posted on 08/29/2005 6:56:28 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: festus
Ron Brown, Vince Foster and others can attest to why this is important when the Clinton admin might look bad.

Ummmm...no they can't. :)


143 posted on 08/29/2005 6:56:51 PM PDT by sayfer bullets
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To: sayfer bullets

I smell something stinnnnkkkyyyyyyyy ...


144 posted on 08/29/2005 6:57:46 PM PDT by Zrob (freedom without lies)
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To: anonymous_user

Sandy Burgler was stealing Able Danger's findings on BOTH Chinagate AND Al Qaeda. He wasn't just stealing Al Qaeda documents.


145 posted on 08/29/2005 6:58:25 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Lancey Howard

I gotta contribute to that guy's re-election campaign. If we had half of Congress with this attitude then nobody in the world would want to mess with us.


146 posted on 08/29/2005 6:58:25 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Lancey Howard; mia
Despite the brilliance of Mia, who captures it all so perfectly, and futilely, episodes such as this fail to give my heart some hope that the Adolescent Sociopath and his wifely Death Eater and co-rapist are finally brought to justice in the eyes of the American people.

I have no doubt these marxist bastards did all they could to destroy this country militarily and every other way, militarily being the most essential way to bring this country down. And to actively suppress our government's response to the mortal threat of moslem terrorists must have appealed to their faux sense of speaking "truth" to "power," gilded lily-livered American leftism, hoping that the lesser classes create an image pleasing to the poisen Ivy League fundamentalist belief in their own moral superiority.

I do not for one split second believe that the Adolescent Sociopath and his co-rapist Death Eater wife could care less about more destruction wreaked upon this country. To the contrary, it must be as good as rape and co-rape to them, the vindication of their egos smothering their shriveled souls. The ultimate thrill is their calculation that their hatred for this country, and their hope for moslem violence, perfectly matches their thirst for power.

147 posted on 08/29/2005 6:58:25 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: nopardons

I think what you say has merit about waiting until after Labor Day...and especially when Congress is back in session.

I bet there are a lot of people that don't know that after basically calling Weldon and Schaeffer liars, that Larry DiRita finally came out and said that they should NOT be questioned about their recollections of events...

I bet a lot of people still remember the initial allegations by DiRita...but Crawford and the Hurricane is all the news now.


148 posted on 08/29/2005 6:58:54 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: frannie

My thoughts to. This could have happened in the early months of the Bush admistration. Could be some left over Clintonites were getting a little nervous and decided to destroy some evidence. Of course the MSM will spin it differently.


149 posted on 08/29/2005 6:59:02 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: bnelson44

Yeah, I think I know what you mean. This announcing a week before he is going to name names is just stupid. No matter what games he thinks he is playing or what rationalizations can be thrown out, it makes him look kooky and undermines his credibility.

While I hope he is right and exposes Clintonian corruption, this may all end up being another Klaymanesque train wreck.


150 posted on 08/29/2005 6:59:07 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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