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Cindy Sheehan Cuts & Runs, Leaves NPR Host Dumbfounded
NPR Talk of the Nation ^ | August 30, 2005 | NPR

Posted on 08/30/2005 11:33:27 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day

Rush transcript of NPR's Neil Conan, speaking by phone with Cindy Sheehan:

NC: Very nice of you to be with us today.

CS: [cheerfully] Oh, thank youuu!

NC: I know that you were, uh, out in California last week because your mother was ill. How’s she doing?

CS: Um, she’s doing better. They’re trying to keep her from having another stroke. And if she doesn’t have another stroke, she should be able to recover.

NC: That’s good news. Now, tell us, a little bit about your son, Casey.

CS: My son Casey was an amazing human being. He was gentle, loving, peaceful, sweet. He always just wanted to help people. He was an Eagle Scout and an altar boy for ten years. He had been in college for three years before he was recruited. He was just, uh, an almost perfect son and a really good big brother to his two sisters and his other brother.

NC: Why did he decide to join the Army?

CS: Well, he got lied to by his recruiter. His recruiter made him five promises that he broke all the promises to Casey. Casey was a very trusting and trustworthy person. So, he felt everyone else was trustworthy. Especially somebody who represents the government.

NC: Mmm hmmm. But, so, did he say afterwards, “I was duped?”

CS: Um, he, he, when we’d ask him about all these things that your recruiter promised you, he’s just say, “Well, Mom, you know, it’s the Army. They didn’t tell us they didn’t have to fulfill their promises. We were the only ones who had to fulfill our promises.”

NC: Mmm hmm. And did he write you letters about what he was doing in Iraq?

CS: Well, he was only there five days before he was killed. He started one letter that he never finished, and we got it back with his things.

NC: What did it say?

CS: Um…well, I’ll give you the general thing, but it was kind of personal. Y’know, he said that, um…it should be a pretty smooth year, that they were looking forward to a smooth year. And he was killed four days later. And he said that he wished he could be home for his sister’s graduation. And some other personal things.

NC: Um, and of course, I don’t want to get too personal, but…I wonder: When he was deciding to join the Army, did you try to talk him out of it?

CS: We didn’t have a chance because he joined before he talked to us.

NC: Before he talked. So, he made a choice of his own.

CS: [pause] Right.

NC: Um, now, you were…

CS: [not so cheerfully] But does that have to do with him being sent to a war that’s illegal and immoral to kill people and get killed for, um, a country that was no threat or harm to the United States of America?

NC: Uhhh…no. But, he wasn’t drafted. He made a choice of free will.

CS: Yeah, and if we give our children to the government to serve their country, we should make sure that they’re only used if it’s absolutely necessary to defend the United States of America.

NC: I wonder, now, you got a chance to meet with President Bush with a group of other families for a brief time. What happened in that meeting?

CS: Ummm…I’ve talked about this a lot. Do we have to talk about this? Do you have any questions about what’s going on right now or what we’re gonna do in the future?

NC: I’m just curious; I’ve not heard your answer to this.

CS: Um, excuse me?

NC: I’ve not heard your answer, if you wouldn’t mind.

CS: [someone speaking in background] I have two minutes.

NC: [amazed] You have two minutes.

CS: I have two minutes so…he was—George Bush acted like we were at a tea party, he was rude to us, and we felt worse than we did after we met with him.

NC: Mm hmm. Um, I didn’t realize you just had two minutes. We thought we had more time with you today, but, uh…I did want to ask. I know you’re planning to, when President Bush comes back to Washington, you’re planning to continue the protest here in Washington D.C.

CS: Yeah, we’re taking the bus tour to Washington D.C. and we’re all meeting there on September 24 for the big United for Peace and Justice…um, war protest.

NC: And you did get a chance to meet with some of his senior advisors a couple of weeks ago. Did you get a chance—did they listen to you, or did they talk to you?

CS: He-hello?

NC: Did they listen to you? Or did they talk to you?

CS: Hello?

NC: Yes. Hi?

CS: [clear as a bell] I didn’t hear your question, I’m sorry. We have a really bad connection.

NC: I apologize for that. It’s the cell—

CS: That’s not your fault. I’m in the middle of Crawford, so, you know, it’s very spotty cell phone service out here.

NC: I understand. I was asking about your meeting with some of the President’s chief advisors, including the National Security Advisor. In that meeting, did they, did they listen to you?

CS: Um, they listened to me and they talked to me. They tried to tell me things that I knew weren’t true, and so finally I said, “Just because I’m a grieving mother doesn’t mean that I am stupid.” And I said, “I don’t believe you guys are stupid either.” So we ended the meeting and they said they would pass on my concerns to the president, and then…they left.

NC: So you felt like you were being dismissed.

CS: I felt like I was being patronized.

NC: Patronized.

CS: And I felt that they thought that they were gonna be able to intimidate me into leaving, and, or impress me by the high level of officials that they sent.

NC: What would you say to President Bush if you had another chance to meet him?

CS: I’d say, what was the noble cause he sent my son to die for? And, why are soldiers still fighting over there when we know this war is based on lies, and to tell him to quit using my son’s name to justify the continued killing.

NC: As you know, there are parents of other men and women who died in Iraq who say you’re using their sons’ and daughters’ names in your cause.

CS: To stop the killing? You know, just because my son’s killed, why should I want any other children to be killed? Why would I want any other families to be going through this and this seems to be the President’s reason for continuing the war because he’s killed so many American soldiers already he has to kill more. And I believe that’s the most insane and the most immoral reason for continuing the war.

NC: I understand what you’re saying, but, they say you don’t speak for them.

CS: I never said I spoke for them. I never said I spoke for 100% of the military families. I never claimed to. I know they have their opinions and I believe that’s their right to their opinions.

NC: Fair enough. Do you st—You’ve come out…A lot of statements have been attributed to you as this…Camp Casey has grown, as this movement has grown, and uh…

CS: I gotta, I have to go now. Thank youuuu. [click]

NC: [dumbfounded] Cindy Sheehan. Leaving us there in Crawford, Texas. We apologize for that. We had arranged with people there to speak with Cindy Sheehan for the remainder of this segment and take some phone calls as well. Uh, evidently, plans changed at the last minute and we apologize for that.


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I just transcribed this. Sorry for the mistakes. It's amazing. You need to hear the interview, too, to hear her insincerity and her inability to deal with difficult questions.

Cut and Run Cindy. At least she practices what she preaches.

1 posted on 08/30/2005 11:33:28 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Here's the link to the audio site:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4822109


2 posted on 08/30/2005 11:33:54 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's heaven for?" -- Robert Browning)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

This is why you'll never see her in a live, in-studio interview.


3 posted on 08/30/2005 11:35:25 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
"He had been in college for three years before he was recruited."

No spin here - LOL

4 posted on 08/30/2005 11:36:08 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

>>NC: Uhhh…no. But, he wasn’t drafted. _He made a choice of free will_.

You mean he wasn't kidnapped by the Army in the dead
of night? I am shocked, shocked!


5 posted on 08/30/2005 11:38:22 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Thanks for the transcript. Cindy gets busted by that nest of Kool-aid-drinking liberals, Nasty Poltroon Radio! This is getting better all the time!


6 posted on 08/30/2005 11:38:34 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Thanks for the transcript. I heard it was bad, but I didn't realize it was that bad. I didn't think you could possibly embarrass the left. Cindy's managed it.


7 posted on 08/30/2005 11:39:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Choose Ye This Day

You also nead to HEAR how vapid and vacant she sound as she repeats her memorized anti-Bush script.

But the best part of the audio segment is that, since Cindy bolted early, the pro-troops and pro-America parents get a lot more airtime. There is a clear, obvious difference in the sanity level of Muthasheehan and the other parents of slain soldiers and troops.


8 posted on 08/30/2005 11:39:28 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's heaven for?" -- Robert Browning)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
...this seems to be the President’s reason for continuing the war because he’s killed so many American soldiers already he has to kill more.

She's not even pretending to be rational anymore.

9 posted on 08/30/2005 11:40:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Wow, it was like reading a Katie Holmes interview. Completely brainwashed.


10 posted on 08/30/2005 11:40:28 AM PDT by Millee (Earth First! We'll log the other planets later!)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
NC: Why did he decide to join the Army?
CS: Well, he got lied to by his recruiter. His recruiter made him five promises that he broke all the promises to Casey. Casey was a very trusting and trustworthy person. So, he felt everyone else was trustworthy. Especially somebody who represents the government

Basically what she's saying is that her son was a moron and she's the only one who knew what was best for him. Imagine how stupid she must think he is to have reinlisted long since knowing such foolishness.

11 posted on 08/30/2005 11:40:34 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Choose Ye This Day
“Just because I’m a grieving mother doesn’t mean that I am stupid.”

No Cindy, I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons.

12 posted on 08/30/2005 11:40:43 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I'm just as surprised the the even-handed questions by the host. They seem quite thoughtful and even respectfully challenging, even for NPR lol.


13 posted on 08/30/2005 11:41:31 AM PDT by rudy45
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Cindy had to run she had another photo shoot at the crosses followed by a TV interview with Katie Couric.
14 posted on 08/30/2005 11:41:54 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Choose Ye This Day

What a wuss she is too. What's she afraid of? If she were really the courageous conscience of a nation she is being made out to be, she wouldn't be afraid to face the media and take tough questions.


15 posted on 08/30/2005 11:42:02 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: rhombus

I love how Crazy Cindy continues to refer to HERSELF as a grieving mother in interviews.


16 posted on 08/30/2005 11:42:13 AM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Ditch Witch...worthy only of contempt


17 posted on 08/30/2005 11:42:19 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
You also nead to HEAR how vapid and vacant she sound as she repeats her memorized anti-Bush script.

Exactly!! She sounds like a dried up valley girl. She is so coached. Her little rants don't sound so good live and unedited, not like the little sugar coated stories that are written about her.

18 posted on 08/30/2005 11:43:03 AM PDT by IrishGOP
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To: Choose Ye This Day

CS: Well, he was only there five days before he was killed. He started one letter that he never finished, and we got it back with his things.

NC: What did it say?

CS: Um…well, I’ll give you the general thing, but it was kind of personal. Y’know, he said that, um

Casey Sheehan's last letter to one of his sisters was posted on one of Cindy's sites :

" The married soldiers had their families to see them off, and all I had was a call home the night before.
Mom cried her eyes out over the phone, not the first time it happened either."

I wonder- did Mom ever come to the family week ends prior to deployment ?
Since it appears that his unit had some type of deployment ceremony-why didn't she attend ?
Too bad she couldn't have sent Casey off without the burden about worrying about her mental health.
The soldiers are always most worried about the welfare of their loved ones back home. What a selfish, self centered mother.

And then this -
"I'm also glad I got to talk to Mom for a bit about a week ago. She probably doesn't remember because I woke her up."

Guess old Cindy couldn't summon much energy to talk to her son .And since the call was just for " a bit "- did sleepy Cindy cut it short ?
Oh and Cindy claims she didn't sleep for 2 weeks when Casey left.


19 posted on 08/30/2005 11:43:33 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Choose Ye This Day
CS: Yeah, and if we give our children to the government to serve their country, we should make sure that they’re only used if it’s absolutely necessary to defend the United States of America.

We're ADULTS lady, old enough to make our own decisions. Cut the apron strings.

20 posted on 08/30/2005 11:43:57 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
That's great work thank you.
NC: Mmm hmm. And did he write you letters about what he was doing in Iraq?

CS: Well, he was only there five days before he was killed. He started one letter that he never finished, and we got it back with his things.

I thought she said he reenlisted while in Iraq - that would be strange if he was only there for 5 days.
21 posted on 08/30/2005 11:44:03 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: Choose Ye This Day

She's a disturbed woman. I think EVERYONE realizes this, even the anti-war people. This 15 minutes will ruin her for the rest of her life, which I predict, will not be a good one.


22 posted on 08/30/2005 11:44:54 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
After listening, she gets the Sen.Patty Murray Dumb Person Award
23 posted on 08/30/2005 11:44:55 AM PDT by llevrok (No bozos on this bus.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

"If I truly was a media whore do you think I would like
maybe get myself fixed up a little bit before I went on?"

Quote and pic of Cindy Sheehan - August 24, 2005

24 posted on 08/30/2005 11:46:40 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
CS: Well, he got lied to by his recruiter. His recruiter made him five promises that he broke all the promises to Casey. Casey was a very trusting and trustworthy person. So, he felt everyone else was trustworthy. Especially somebody who represents the government.

CINDY SHEEHAN: "In other words, my son was an jingoistic fool!"

25 posted on 08/30/2005 11:47:04 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

You know Cindy. She's always cutting phone calls short.


26 posted on 08/30/2005 11:47:13 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's heaven for?" -- Robert Browning)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
I never said I spoke for them. I never said I spoke for 100% of the military families. I never claimed to....

Yes you did, Cindy.

The minute you put the first cross up with the name of a deceased soldier on it, you claimed to speak not only for him, but his family too.

There was some sort of epiphany here, at this juncture in the interview; this was what set her off, she is beginning to see she has been USED.

It will be interesting to see her next comments, she could turn on them, in my opinion.

27 posted on 08/30/2005 11:47:19 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Choose Ye This Day
I’d say, what was the noble cause he sent my son to die for?

Hasn't Bush answered this question about a zillion times?

28 posted on 08/30/2005 11:47:30 AM PDT by Lizavetta (Let not your heart be troubled.......)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
CS: I’d say, what was the noble cause he sent my son to die for? And, why are soldiers still fighting over there when we know this war is based on lies, and to tell him to quit using my son’s name to justify the continued killing.

This woman is so... un-friggin-believably delusionally stoopid!

Where's the picture of her in the straight jacket?

(Calling nurse Cratchet.)

29 posted on 08/30/2005 11:47:48 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Where are the men in the white suites ?? Somebody please give them a call . This is the worst case of mad cow since Hanoi Jane .


30 posted on 08/30/2005 11:48:05 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. ; ) Islam's Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: PJ-Comix; Charles Henrickson

Good comic material here.


31 posted on 08/30/2005 11:48:15 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's heaven for?" -- Robert Browning)
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To: IrishGOP

" sounds like a dried up valley girl. She is so coached. Her little rants don't sound so good live and unedited, not like the little sugar coated stories that are written about her "

Crazy Cindy always bails out on real interviews that actually ask her real questions. She is so used to blindly reciting Soros/ Fenton communications propoganda that she has nothing to say when asked a question that does not call for a scripted answer.


32 posted on 08/30/2005 11:48:22 AM PDT by Rosemont
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To: ncountylee; raccoonradio

Didn't Casey Sheehan re-enlist, after his first tour of duty ended?

Was he duped again?


33 posted on 08/30/2005 11:49:53 AM PDT by Sometimes A River (Go Braves!)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

A liberal does what a liberal is.


34 posted on 08/30/2005 11:50:25 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Millee

Good analogy.

But Katie is still cute. Cindy, on the other hand...


35 posted on 08/30/2005 11:50:47 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's heaven for?" -- Robert Browning)
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To: DTogo

Only totalitarian regimes and terrorists send children to kill the enemy

36 posted on 08/30/2005 11:50:49 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

This is CHOICE. And to think it came from Neil Conan and NPR. I think Cindee was someone NPR was going to cling to and it backfired. Maybe he was just as flustered not getting the answers he was expecting. Notice how many times he said "Uh ... um ... uh" Not a good day for Neil. (Off mike) "SHE DIDN'T MEMORIZE THE SCRIPT!!! SHE'S A FREAKIN' LOON!"


37 posted on 08/30/2005 11:51:49 AM PDT by manwiththehands (We don't make anything up. We don't have to.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I did not realize this horrific heinous hippie had three other children. Why aren't they by her side? Are they really young? In school? I know her husband dispises what she is doing to the work of their son, but what about her other children?


38 posted on 08/30/2005 11:52:37 AM PDT by Republic (Michael Schiavo comes to mind...ulitimate control is never relinquished with ease)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Now we need somebody to post this over at the DUmp.

They will freak.


39 posted on 08/30/2005 11:53:05 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's heaven for?" -- Robert Browning)
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To: Choose Ye This Day; basil; kristinn; Squantos; Impeach98
ROTFLMAO! What an absolute meltdown!

Look what you mean ol' folks did to that poor grieving mother! Bwahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!

40 posted on 08/30/2005 11:53:57 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I thought Casey was killed after re enlisting. If he was "duped" the first time ..........Me thinks his mommy is not telling the truth.....duh!!!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 08/30/2005 11:54:55 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: ncountylee

"He had been in college for three years before he was recruited."

This begs a question. Casey Sheehan was in the 101st Airborne Division (Airmobile). Was he an airmobile infantryman or did he have a combat support MOS? If he was indeed an airmobile infantry soldier, that busts Cindy right there. Infantry soldiers are highly motivated and dedicated. Further, the last time I heard, those soldiers assigned to the 101st Airborne Division have to go through the Air Assault course. It's very demanding, and not for the faint of heart. I'm getting the vibes that Casey was a great soldier, and would no doubt have made a career of the army. It's too bad he had the misfortune to have a moonbat for a mother.


42 posted on 08/30/2005 11:55:30 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Humm. I listened to the audio. Very enlightening. She is completely affectless. Her voice reveals no feelings at all, as far as I can see, beyond a couple of moments of petty annoyance. She sounds less like an angry leftist protesting the war than a clueless idiot who has been primed by others.


43 posted on 08/30/2005 11:55:54 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
After reading this, I'm pretty sure that Casey's secondary reason for joining the Army was to get away from her! Moonbat!

Anyone have any more information on whether she 'abandoned' her kids for a time and only reentered their lives later?

44 posted on 08/30/2005 11:56:00 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Choose Ye This Day

If your city's unluckly enough to have a Scare America station, post it on their website's messageboards, too! A couple I went to don't even require you to register (in their FACE!!).


45 posted on 08/30/2005 11:56:32 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Senator Kunte Klinte
THE LEFT'S WAR CONTRACT: To be antiwar can mean one of two things: you may be opposed to all war or you might just be opposed to a war in particular. A Democratic party fitting the first definition would never win another national election in this country again. Ever.

Thus many on the left who make up the base of the Democratic party have gone to great lengths to say they support the use of U.S. military force under appropriate circumstances (like, say, Afghanistan) and that their objections are confined to this president and the war in Iraq.

But if you take some of the arguments this group (which spans the "netroots" crowd at Daily Kos all the way to the New York Times op-ed page) has marshaled against President Bush and recast them in generic terms, you'll see they read like a list of "out clauses" tucked inside a "We Support the Use of U.S. Military Force" contract:

The Chickenhawk Clause: No administration official may be involved in planning or supporting a war effort unless they have served in the military. (This clause applies to members of the public as well).

The Shared Sacrifice Clause: Wars may not be conducted unless a vast majority of the public share in some sort of common sacrifice which will most likely take the form of increasing the tax burden on the public.

The Elite Sacrifice Clause: Wars may not be conducted unless 1) all military age children among the highest ranking civilian and military officials in the country are forced to serve and 2) a certain (but as yet undefined) percentage of combat deaths must come from soldiers with "privileged" backgrounds.

The Grieving Parent Clause: Mothers and fathers of soldiers killed in action are given "absolute" moral authority. Therefore wars may be fought only until the mother or father of a soldier killed in action objects to either the policy or the leadership of the administration.

The Presidential Vacation Clause: During the course of any conflict where U.S. soldiers are in harm's way, presidents are not allowed to take vacation but instead must remain at the White House "burning the midnight oil" to demonstrate military personnel are a priority.

The War Profiteering Clause: The Pentagon is allowed to hire private contractors to assist in military logistics and reconstruction projects provided that 1) no member of the administration has ever had any contact with the company and 2) the company is not allowed to make a profit.

Of course, one of the primary requirements for the left to support U.S. military force is winning the approval of the UN Security Council. Taken together these requirements would seem to make it almost impossible for the left to support U.S. military action under any circumstance. Or will all these rules not apply when Hillary or some other Democrat is sitting in the White House? -- T. Bevan, http://www.realclearpolitics.com/commentary.html
46 posted on 08/30/2005 11:56:56 AM PDT by OESY
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To: billnaz

I've read he wanted to be a chaplain, but there were no openings, so he became a Humvee mechanic. I do not know if that is true.


47 posted on 08/30/2005 11:57:15 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's heaven for?" -- Robert Browning)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

"I’m in the middle of Crawford, so, you know, it’s very spotty cell phone service out here."

Yeah, all that wide open space and with government communications so unimportant in the area, I can see why the cell service would be lacking.


48 posted on 08/30/2005 11:58:03 AM PDT by kenth (north Georgia mountains - prayers for all in the path of Katrina)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Thanks for the link. I just listened to the interview. Where is she from? She sounds like a Valley Girl. It would be interesting to read her resume.


49 posted on 08/30/2005 11:59:12 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Choose Ye This Day

She is so scripted and coached, it's ridiculous.


50 posted on 08/30/2005 11:59:18 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman
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