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Impeach Bush! (Joseph Farah On Upholding American Sovereignty Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 08/31/05 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 08/30/2005 10:34:44 PM PDT by goldstategop

Pat Buchanan, former communications director to President Ronald Reagan, former presidential candidate and WND commentator, has come to the conclusion that a courageous Republican legislator should move a bill for impeachment of President Bush.

I reluctantly agree – and for the same reasons.

President Bush has had nearly six years in office to honor his oath of office and enforce immigration laws in this country.

He has not only failed, he has intentionally neglected this sworn duty, instead claiming he prefers to promote a vague immigration "reform" plan that involved a "guest worker" program that has served as an encouragement to the most massive influx of illegal immigration this country has ever seen.

Some will tell me this can't be done and that it is irresponsible to propose it because Bush is a wartime president.

My response? It is precisely because this nation finds itself in a desperate war declared by a formidable foe determined to use our open borders to destroy this country that we must act now.

Some will remind me I endorsed Bush just two years ago for re-election.

My response? I made it very clear at the time that I was not really endorsing Bush, per se, but seeking the only practical way to defeat his reckless and irresponsible and treasonous opponent. There is no contradiction here. Kerry had to be defeated. Now Bush must go. America can do better.

I don't agree with many of Pat Buchanan's foreign policy ideas. But on the border, he is 100 percent right. Bush has been a disaster. No matter how successful we might be in our campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, we can lose this war against jihadist Islam right here at home.

Our enemies have already used the open border to penetrate this country – and they will do so again.

When Bush placed the old Immigration and Naturalization Service under the new Department of Homeland Security, I actually believed he recognized how critical border security was to the defense of our homeland. I was fooled.

In the current issue of my premium, online, intelligence newsletter, G2 Bulletin, author Paul Williams recounts in extravagant detail how al-Qaida operatives have already used the open Mexican border not only to sneak operatives into the country but to smuggle in nuclear weapons with the help of the MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha) street gang.

The fuse has been lit.

The war in Iraq, which I have supported, will mean little when, not if, a nuclear weapon is detonated inside our own country.

When that happens, we will no longer be having debates about who has more culpability for Sept. 11 – Bush or his predecessor. Bush has had ample opportunity to address the mistakes of the past. Instead, he has repeated them. They say hindsight is 20-20. Not for Bush.

Even if the border issue and the tsunami of illegal immigration was not strictly speaking the No. 1 national security issue we face, enforcing the laws of the land would be the right thing to do – the only moral and right thing to do.

Americans are dealing with more joblessness, higher crime, skyrocketing taxes, a crippled medical system, overcrowded jails, an overburdened judicial and law enforcement system, costly and divisive language barriers and changing demographics that are permanently transforming the U.S. culture.

Why?

Bush claims it is because America needs cheap labor. That's what the law of supply and demand is all about. It's not his duty or responsibility to acquire workers for big corporations and other fat cats below what the market will support.

I don't even believe Bush is being honest when he makes this argument. I am convinced there are international agreements behind this. I am persuaded the systematic destruction of the American way of life through uncontrolled and illegal immigration is part of a master plan for merger and global consolidation – first with our neighbors in this hemisphere and later worldwide.

This secretive plot must end here and now.

America was founded on the principle of independence and sovereignty. The president is betraying our most sacred national heritage.

Bush is ignoring the will of the people and he is violating the law of the land.

It's time to turn up the heat.

As Buchanan suggested: Will even one courageous Republican member of Congress have the guts to sponsor a bill of impeachment?


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We won't have a country left if the President willfully pursues policies that threaten American sovereignty. To turn up the heat, there is only one option. A bill of impeachment. If we want to have illegal aliens and terrorists flood this country, by all means, lets close our eyes and continue on our present course. If America is a sovereign state, we will compel the President to take action to defend it - or see himself be forced to vacate his high office.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
1 posted on 08/30/2005 10:34:47 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Farah is a loon.


2 posted on 08/30/2005 10:37:45 PM PDT by zarf
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To: Rockitz; Liberty1970

ping


3 posted on 08/30/2005 10:38:11 PM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: zarf

Hilarious!


4 posted on 08/30/2005 10:41:59 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: goldstategop
Calling for the impeachment of a wartime president. Unbelievable.


5 posted on 08/30/2005 10:41:59 PM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: goldstategop
Yeah, just what we need to pursue in front of our enemies outside and the Enemy Within - NOT!


6 posted on 08/30/2005 10:42:04 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: zarf
Farah is a loon.

That may be, but could you please explain how he is wrong on this one.

7 posted on 08/30/2005 10:42:08 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: zarf

Hilarious!


8 posted on 08/30/2005 10:42:22 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: goldstategop

My husband says the same thing, "Impeach Bush" because of the border. It is incomprehensible to us that he won't do anything about that border. We both voted for Bush and had such high hopes but feel he has willfully failed us on this all important issue.


9 posted on 08/30/2005 10:42:57 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: goldstategop

Ouch! My eyes hurt from rolling so hard!


11 posted on 08/30/2005 10:44:51 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: goldstategop

When Clinton was up for impeachment, I couldn't fathom how leftists could ignore his treachery. I will admit to more than a little frustration with our leaders in Congress for not charging him with obstruction of justice, witness tampering and a number of other infractions. I supported impeachment.

Now it's our guy on the line. I have not been a big supporter of Bush. I did not vote for him in 2000. I did vote for him in 2004.

I have railed on Bush countless times for not fulfilling his obligation to protect the states from invasion. That being said, our Congress is supposed to protect us also. IMO, they're all a bunch of sell-outs to the highest bidder.

If I expect the left to admit there guy has done wrong and eject him, then I must do the same thing when it comes to our guy.

I'm not a big fan of Farrah. I'm not very enthused with Buchanan post 2000 either. That being said, I do think Bush has violated his oath. That does expose him to this type of challenge.

With his efforts in Iraq, I truly do not want to jeopardize what has taken place there. George, many people have jumped on you over the last five years. Why didn't you listen?

This is a pi-- poor mess. One person got us here. He would not listen and now this.

I don't think this is going anywhere, but it's a sad sad tale that this could even be suggested on the merits.


12 posted on 08/30/2005 10:46:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: MJY1288

Pat Buchanan is a secret admirer of Dick Cheney! Who, of course, would become President if GWB were to be impeached and convicted.


13 posted on 08/30/2005 10:46:59 PM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: DTogo
The American people might decide its too extreme a step. On the other hand, I don't like the fact this country is vulnerable to another terrorist attack. While I personally like our President, I don't see him taking steps to secure our borders. If he doesn't, my loyalty is to our country first. No country that doesn't maintain its borders will survive for long. Its simply not a tenable position. We have to decide if we want to remain a sovereign country.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
14 posted on 08/30/2005 10:47:23 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: tinamina
My husband says the same thing, "Impeach Bush" because of the border. It is incomprehensible to us that he won't do anything about that border. We both voted for Bush and had such high hopes but feel he has willfully failed us on this all important issue.

You're not alone. Let the misguided partisans of a man and his career laugh the idea to scorn for now. People laughed also when the subject of Clinton's impeachment was first broached.

15 posted on 08/30/2005 10:47:51 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: goldstategop
Why would anyone in their right mind take the chance of being THE guy that allowed a catastrophic terrorist attack to occur? No matter if it happens in 2009...If a terrorist entered this country from September 12, 2001 to January 20, 2009, Bush will be blamed for it--right or wrong.

I challenge anyone in cyberspace to give me an answer to my original question.

This leads me to subscribe to two theories: A.)This is an orchestrated plan, (insert oneworld theory here) and the Powers That Be will not let a terrorist attack take place because it would screw up those plans, or B.) a terrorist attack IS part of the plan; and Bush's failure won't bother him because it really wouldn't be public. Why? There will be no free media allowed to question the government because liberty would end with a stroke of a pen and an executive order---Martial Law...for the chillllllldren, of course.

16 posted on 08/30/2005 10:50:19 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: SubMareener
Pat Buchanan is a nut case, the best thing that ever happened to the right wing is when that idiot left the Republican Party. Pat is nothing but a Cindy Sheehan in drag, and this announcement is proof of his lunacy
17 posted on 08/30/2005 10:51:01 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Map Kernow
I know the moonbat Left is also pushing this. They could care less about the country. I love our country. All I want is for our President to start enforcing our laws. No reason he can't fulfill the oath of office he took. The American people don't care who gets the credit for dealing with illegal immigration. However, they certainly want something done about it.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
18 posted on 08/30/2005 10:51:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I kind of imagine the President has other things on his mind right now besides Patty and Farah's rantings.


19 posted on 08/30/2005 10:52:29 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: goldstategop

Yeah what are they going to do impeach Bush and every President after that does not enforce the immigration law? If so, then we will be impeaching every president. This is stupid. Pat has lost it.... Most people view him as a lose screw.


20 posted on 08/30/2005 10:54:13 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: goldstategop

It's the Federal government's duty to protect the states from invasion,a nd we're being invaded. It's just that these invaders aren't wearing uniforms and carrying military weapons.


21 posted on 08/30/2005 10:54:16 PM PDT by TBP
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To: MJY1288
We have a real problem and burying our heads in the sand isn't going to make it go away. We can either have open borders or we can have a United States Of America. What we cannot do as the President seems to think, is have both. There's no such animal.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
22 posted on 08/30/2005 10:54:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: c-b 1
Farah is a loon.

That may be, but could you please explain how he is wrong on this one.

He went too far by supporting a call for impeachment.

But, IMHO, he's right about:

[Bush] prefers to promote a vague immigration "reform" plan that involved a "guest worker" program

. . . this nation finds itself in a desperate war declared by a formidable foe determined to use our open borders to destroy this country that we must act now.

Bush claims it is because America needs cheap labor. That's what the law of supply and demand is all about. It's not his duty or responsibility to acquire workers for big corporations and other fat cats below what the market will support.

My response is to send a message by voting against incumbents of both political parties in local and state elections.

23 posted on 08/30/2005 10:55:37 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: goldstategop

Wow. Impeach Bush. This guy is certifiable. He's like McBrien in the Catholic church - anything goes when it comes to bashing, even if it directly contradicts your position on anything else.

Farah bashes Bush; McBrien bashes Catholics. No news here.


24 posted on 08/30/2005 10:56:02 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: MJY1288

Okay, you don't like Joe and Pat. Does that alter the facts?

Article four Section four states that the President will protect the states against invasion. If three million illegal crossings a year isn't an invasion, please tell us what would be.

We are still allowing people to enter the United States from terrorist states. Is that a fulfillment of Bush's oath?

Sorry guy, but on this issue there is one person off the reservation. He lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


25 posted on 08/30/2005 10:56:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: TBP
If AQ terrorists have in fact smuggled in nuclear weapons through Mexico, we're sitting on a time bomb. Or we will unless we get serious about border enforcement. We can lose the war right here at home. Think of several million American dead and our economy brought to a virtual standstill. If that doesn't concentrate minds on the issue at hand, I don't know what will. We have to get our act together.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
26 posted on 08/30/2005 10:57:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Plug the leak.



Bail the dirty water.



Go from there. Impeachment at this point is an asinine idea. However, a particularly brutal mass crime wave or a gigantic terrorist attack on par with 9-11 or (God forbid) worse...that is proven to have come over the southern border? I'll be marching in the streets of D.C. to have every last politician in office that has REFUSED to protect us removed from office. Forcibly if necessary.


27 posted on 08/30/2005 10:59:01 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Warning: Exposure to the SON may PREVENT burning.)
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To: goldstategop

That has been my sore spot about Bush all along, I voted for him both times, trusted he'd do the right thing about illegals & the border, but he hasn't.


28 posted on 08/30/2005 10:59:01 PM PDT by blondee123
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To: goldstategop
I know the moonbat Left is also pushing this.

Who cares? They want to do it because he's Republican. As long as GW is defending America and enforcing the laws and the Constitution, they don't stand a chance. But since he's NOT enforcing the laws or defending the borders...

Look, was Clinton impeached for getting his pole waxed, or because he knowingly committed perjury in a court proceeding? HE BROKE THE LAW---and I couldn't STAND to hear liberals yammer on at the time about how Republicans just wanted to get him for having sex in the White House. Same thing with Bush---I have no problem with him being a Republican because I'm registered as one myself, and I voted for him in 2000. But I'm not going to let my party registration stand in the way of holding him to account for not enforcing the laws he SWORE he would uphold, and not defending the borders he MUST DEFEND IN A TIME OF WAR. No excuses, no equivocation, no partisanship can stand in the way of his accountability for those two things.

29 posted on 08/30/2005 10:59:38 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MJY1288; zarf
"Pat Buchanan and Josef Farah are out of their friggin minds. The best thing Pat Bushanan could do is place a hand gun in his mouth and en end his miserable existence. Pat could take one for his Country, and so should Uncle Joe Farah "

This is about the most enlightening, logical, intellectual, and critically reasoned opinion that I have ever been blessed to read. It ranks up there with the genius reply #2, by zarf. Very substantial. (Sarcasm off).

30 posted on 08/30/2005 10:59:43 PM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: goldstategop
I'm not burying my head, this is a problem that was not created by this President and won't be solved by this one.... Simply because it's near impossible to seal our borders without deploying 3/4 of a million troops on the border and I doubt that would do much to end the illegal crossings. Mention a National ID card to the people here calling for Bush to be impeached and see how long it is before you are called a Nazi. We have to have a way of identifying everyone who makes a purchase here in the United States before we could ever think about stopping the flow of illegals.

Impeaching President Bush over this issue is simply NUTS

31 posted on 08/30/2005 11:02:15 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: de Buillion

I'm glad you enjoyed, Maybe even as much as I enjoyed reading this pathetic piece by the loon Farah, Good Night and join Cibdy Sheehan's call for impeachment, you'll be welcomed with open arms


32 posted on 08/30/2005 11:04:20 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: trubluolyguy
Impeachment at this point is an asinine idea.

Not to mention an unproductive distraction.  All the fun we had with Bill and what's-her-name's stained dress might have been better spent pressing Congress to act.

Why wait on George to propose doing the right thing when Congress can do the right thing?

Then, should Bush fail or refuse to be the executive, impeach him.

33 posted on 08/30/2005 11:04:51 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: tinamina
We both voted for Bush and had such high hopes but feel he has willfully failed us on this all important issue.

Ditto that. As the most conservative guy that I know, I am VERY ashamed of W's lack of attention on this issue. He is a good war President, but his domestic polices are... more like Carter, Clinton. I.E.: PATHETIC.

Now, before I get flamed, I stumped with Ronnie in 1964 for Barry AuH20. So I am an Ultra-Right-Wing Conservative. However, I do not understand W's approach on the ILLegal immigrant issue. If they (the ILLegals) are here ILLegally, then they sould be deported.

Can someone please explain W's logic to me?

34 posted on 08/30/2005 11:07:17 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: goldstategop

Far-out Farah strikes again!

If Bush should be impeached for his stance on illegal immigration, Reagan should have been as well.


35 posted on 08/30/2005 11:07:37 PM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: Racehorse
Why wait on George to propose doing the right thing when Congress can do the right thing?

Then, should Bush fail or refuse to be the executive, impeach him.

What is it you would have Congress do? Re-affirm existing immigration law? Make illegal entry even more illegal? Pass a resolution that the executive branch should enforce the immigration law? That the Commander-in-Chief should use the armed forces of the United States to prevent and repel invasion by illegal entrants?

36 posted on 08/30/2005 11:09:29 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DoughtyOne
And how many times did you call for Slick Willy's Impeachment when the same or even more were crossing the border?

You're a tool, my friend. The millions that have been crossing the border every year for the last 50 are only reported about when a Republican is in the White House. Go take a look at how much money has been spent on the border since 2001 and compare that against the last 5 presidents and get back to me.....

Good Night, I'm off to bed

37 posted on 08/30/2005 11:09:43 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Racehorse
Why wait on George to propose doing the right thing when Congress can do the right thing?

Congress? Act? Congress isn't for doing things....

38 posted on 08/30/2005 11:11:14 PM PDT by Grut
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no one will ever take care of the border. as for impeachment thats a joke. Buchie is as nuts as the libs. Now I know why I always cringe when I see or hear him.


39 posted on 08/30/2005 11:11:43 PM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers. .)
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To: Terpfen
If Bush should be impeached for his stance on illegal immigration, Reagan should have been as well.

You mean the Reagan that said, "This country has lost control of its borders. And no country can sustain that kind of position"---that Reagan? Got even a quote from GW to the same effect?

40 posted on 08/30/2005 11:12:31 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: goldstategop
This has my blood boiling right now. Are Buchanan, Farah, and their supporters aware of what they are saying?

Calling for the impeachment of a wartime president. How is that not giving aid and comfort to our enemies? Imagine Al Jazeera talking this up. You mean to tell me that that would not strengthen the Islamofasicists' resolve?

As a vet, I find it indescribably disgusting to suggest anything like this right now. Not one here who calls for this gives a flying flip about this war effort or our troops.


41 posted on 08/30/2005 11:14:30 PM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: MJY1288
You're a tool, my friend.

You on the other hand are a fool, and no friend of America. People like you are going to have to decide whether they owe their allegiance to a man and his career, or to a nation and its laws. Looks like you have already made that choice.

42 posted on 08/30/2005 11:14:44 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: goldstategop
Turn up the heat ... on Congress. Impeachment of the President, even if it is intended symbolically, is inappropriate in this case (Full disclosure: it so happens I'd spoken during first term of a symbolic impeachment gesture for President Bush's signing Campaign Finance Reform). Nothing has changed since 2004 when President Bush was reelected with room to spare, and he did not promise to make this a priority!

It is arguable at best that major resources should be suddenly diverted by executive order to the borders. Congress should act with proper deliberation.

43 posted on 08/30/2005 11:14:49 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Map Kernow

No, the Reagan who gave amnesty to illegal immigrants.

Please don't misunderstand me: I'm not a pro-illegal immigrant/open borders person. But there are just some completely stupid ideas floating around among the secure borders people. This column perfectly illustrates that.


44 posted on 08/30/2005 11:16:55 PM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: rdb3
Not one here who calls for this gives a flying flip about this war effort or our troops.

Do you care about the defense of the homeland? If you do, why would you support the borders and immigration policy of this Administration? What is the remedy for a President who refuses to defend America's borders? Sorry, but the subject has been raised, because it NEEDED to be raised.

45 posted on 08/30/2005 11:18:16 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow
As I said, go ahead and call for this right now. Mmmm, hmmm... Go right ahead.

That proves beyond a doubt what you think about our military and what we are accomplishing, which like illegal immigration, is long overdue.

Go ahead, be the sock puppet of Al Qaeda. Be my guest.


46 posted on 08/30/2005 11:20:41 PM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: Racehorse
"Why wait on George to propose doing the right thing when Congress can do the right thing? "

Sorry, can't let this one go by. THIS IS NOT UP TO CONGRESS. This is entirely GWB's responsibility to EXECUTE these laws. That is why they call it the "Executive Office". The Congress is assigned the job of making the laws. They have. They are on the books. The President's SWORN responsibility is to ENFORCE these laws. One other thing: Congress voted to FUND 1000 more BP officers, and GWB hired 200, as I understand. Is any of this hard to understand?

47 posted on 08/30/2005 11:22:01 PM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: Terpfen
No, the Reagan who gave amnesty to illegal immigrants.

He did that on his own? Seems like he had some help from Congress. Oh yeah, and there was that thing about it being a one time thing, and the quid pro quo of the employer sanctions and all that. And the fact that the 1986 amnesty didn't even come close to what Bush is proposing. Besides, I remember the INS enforcing the immigration law under Reagan here in Southern California---Reagan didn't simply allow illegals to pour over the border unchallenged as happens now. Sorry, but wrong as the 1986 amnesty was, it was not a dereliction of duty.

48 posted on 08/30/2005 11:22:14 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MJY1288

I've been harping on this issue for about fifteen years. I'll bet that I have made just that comment about Clinton.

As for the numbers being greater under Clinton, that's simply untrue.

The numbers pretty well stayed around 1 million during the Clinton years. During that time I tried to get anyone who would listen, to speak out about this issue.

Since Bush's first intimation that a legal guest worker program would be instituted for those already here, the numbers have gone through the roof. It is estimated that around 3 million per year enter our nation illegaly now.

As for expenditures, that's a rather hollow comment. The numbers have tripled, yet you tout an increase in expenditures. What you've signed on to, is the fact that Bush has thrown a bunch of money at this, and has failed miserably to get it under control.

And who said that his actions were poorly designed?


49 posted on 08/30/2005 11:22:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Map Kernow
What is it you would have Congress do? Re-affirm existing immigration law? . . .

To start with, double the size of the Border Patrol.  Provide them with resources to physically secure the borders.

Do you believe the Border Patrol has the manning and resources to do the job now?

50 posted on 08/30/2005 11:25:42 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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