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Dumping of US dollar could trigger 'economic September 11'
The Australian ^ | August 29, 2005

Posted on 08/31/2005 12:38:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee

There is a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of the global economy: the strong possibility of financial meltdown following a collapse of confidence in the greenback, Clyde Prestowitz tells Bruce Stannard

August 29, 2005

THE nightmare scenario that haunts global strategist Clyde Prestowitz is an economic September 11 -- a worldwide financial panic triggered by a sudden massive sell-off of US dollars that would lead inexorably to the collapse of economies around the world.

If that happens, Prestowitz predicts: "It would make the Great Depression of the 1930s look like a walk in the park."

Australia would be sucked into the vortex of such a recession, which would cause great hardship throughout the world, he warns.

Prestowitz is not a doomsayer, neither is he alone in his views. As president of the Economic Strategy Institute, a Washington think tank, he is in regular contact with the most influential US business leaders, several of whom -- Warren Buffet and George Soros included -- have taken steps to hedge their currency positions against the possibility of a cataclysmic plunge in the greenback.

"Right now," he says, "we have a situation in which the US is running huge trade deficits -- about $US650 billion ($766 billion) in 2004 -- which are financed by borrowings from the central banks of Asia -- mainly the Chinese and the Japanese. All the world's central banks are chock-full of US dollars -- they're holding many more dollars than they really want. They're holding those dollars because at the moment there's no great alternative and also because the global economy depends on US consumption. If they dump the dollar and the dollar collapses, then the whole global economy is in trouble.

"However, some countries have a bigger stake than others in maintaining the status quo. China and Japan have a big stake in maintaining the flow of their exports to the US and keeping the US economy humming. Russia, on the other hand, does not export much to the US. India doesn't export much to the US. Yet Russia and India are also big dollar-holders. They hold many more dollars than they really want or need.

"It doesn't take any great stretch of the imagination to see what could happen if one of these central bank managers decides to dump dollars. We had a situation recently when a mid-level official at the Central Bank of Korea used the word 'diversification'. It was a throwaway remark at some obscure lunch, but there was instantaneous overreaction. The US stock market fell by 100 points in 15 minutes because the implication was that South Korea might be shifting out of US dollars.

"So picture this: you have a quiet day in the market and maybe some smart MBA at the Central Bank of Chile or someplace looks at his portfolio and says, 'I got too many dollars here. I'm gonna dump $10 billion'. So he dumps his dollars and suddenly the market thinks, 'My god, this is it!' Of course, the first guy out is OK, but you sure as hell can't afford to be the last guy out.

"You would then see an immediate cascade effect -- a world financial panic on a scale that would dwarf the Great Depression of the 1930s."

Prestowitz says the panic could be started by something as simple as a hedge-fund miscalculation. "We had exactly that scenario in the US recently," he points out, "when a big hedge fund called Long Term Capital Management went belly-up. These guys were pros. They had two Nobel prize-winning economists writing their trading algorithms, and their traders were the creme de la creme among New York bond traders.

"They made a big bet -- a trillion dollars leveraged 20 to one, and they blew it. They went belly-up. That threatened to bring down the whole system so US Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan had to organise a bail-out through the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

"Now consider this: there are currently 8000 hedge funds in the US alone. Every day $6 trillion of derivative instruments trade on international markets. If there are four people in the world who understand those trades, I'd be surprised. So the potential for another disaster is not insignificant. This is why Warren Buffet, chairman of investment giant Berkshire Hathaway, is betting $US21 billion against the dollar. This is why currency speculator and hedge fund manager George Soros has also made a big bet against the dollar.

"Soros is one of the greatest currency speculators of all time. He was the guy who broke the British pound in the early 1990s by betting $US10 billion it would fall. He made a quick billion when it did. In 2002, he warned that the greenback was in danger of losing a third of its value. Of course, it could be argued that Soros is a professional hedge fund manager whose job is to play the ups and downs of currencies and his remarks could be seen more as manipulation than prophecy. And yet, in conversations with me, Soros has expressed concern about the market fundamentalist view that prevails in Washington and parts of Wall Street.

"This is the belief that markets are self-correcting and best left alone. Soros calls this a dangerous siren song. Far from being self-correcting, he emphasizes, markets tend to excess. They over-shoot. Anyone with any experience of markets knows this.

"When markets are going down, all the weaknesses get concentrated, and you need intervention at the right time to stop things from getting out of control. If the dollar started to melt down, the results could be really nasty. A 1930s-style global depression is not out of the question."

To underscore the point that he is not alone in this, Prestowitz cites Paul Volcker, head of the Federal Reserve before Greenspan, who has said publicly there is a 75 per cent chance of a dollar crash in the next five years.

"No wonder people look at this and say, 'Holy cow!'," he says. "No one knows for sure what will happen, but clearly the global markets could implode very quickly. The lack of an alternative to the dollar is the only reason it hasn't taken a big fall already."

Prestowitz, formerly a trade adviser and negotiator for former US president Ronald Reagan, believes the US will continue to be the world's most powerful economy for the foreseeable future. But he foreshadows an inexorable decline, a trend that is likely to continue "depending on the way we play our cards".

"Right now, we're playing them just about as badly as it's possible to play them, and that has geo-political implications." he says. "We've outsourced trying to deal with North Korea to China, we really can't deal with Iran, so we've outsourced that to the EU, which is struggling, and Iran is cozying up to China. Other bad actors like Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe and Sudan are cozying up to China.

"America's global hegemony is already under challenge, and that challenge is going to become more and more evident as the extent of the relative US economic decline becomes evident. Right now, the US dollar is probably 40 per cent overvalued versus the Japanese yen or the Chinese renminbi. How's the US going to look as a global power when the dollar is at 50 per cent of its current value?"

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911analogyabuse; bob; cnim; depression; dollar; economy; federalreserve
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To: Travis McGee

Thats it... I'm converting all my dollars to beer.

41 posted on 08/31/2005 9:21:41 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Thats it... I'm converting all my dollars to beer.

Beer does not last very long. Convert them into vodka - it is a very durable and attractive mean of exchange. During WWII in Europe it could buy you more stuff than gold could. Even hungry people were willing to part with their food. :)

42 posted on 08/31/2005 9:32:55 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: Travis McGee
Return us to a commodity based currency. POssibly even competeing commodities to prevent over specialization on something like gold. Implement a consumption tax at point of sale and dump the rest of the tax code. Dump most of the FedGov and fit it back inside its Constitutional jail. Axe any State regs that don't comply to the Constitution they ratified as the "Supreme Law of the Land".

Do all that... and there would be untold prosperity for generations to come. Keep going the way we are going and those doomsday scenarios become certainties. Half measures are better than nothing, but are only stop gap at best.

43 posted on 08/31/2005 9:37:48 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: CodeToad
Thanks for bringing that up. Now I don't have to. Switching to a service economy is one thing, but it creates no new wealth. It just shuffles around what is already there.

That is not a good thing.

44 posted on 08/31/2005 9:39:32 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: overtaxed_canadian

"By conducting free and open trade with a totalitarian country that pegs its currency to the USD"
not to quibble but i believe China floated its currency recently. Here take a looksie

45 posted on 08/31/2005 9:45:37 AM PDT by DM1
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To: Travis McGee

Growth diverges across EU economies (Euro Zone)
The Business Online ^ | August 28, 2005 | Allister Heath

THE performance of the euro zone's 15 economies is continuing to diverge, fuelling fresh fears for the future of the single currency, a top French bank will warn this week.

There are still no signs of the convergence in economic growth long forecast by advocates of the single currency, according to a report by Societe Generale's Paris economists. Instead, the growth differentials among euro-zone members continue to widen, putting intense pressure on the European Central Bank's one-size-fits-all interest rates.

Since 2001, the gap in private consumption between member countries has surged to almost 15% between the best and worst performers, according to Societe Generale. Greece and Spain have had robust private consumption, whereas Germany and the Netherlands have seen consumer spending stagnate during the past four years.

Only five euro-zone members will have run out of spare capacity this year, led by Greece, Finland, Spain, Belgium and Ireland. The others are all underperforming and still have unused resources such as labour and capital.

The five best performing countries are at increasing risk of overheating, the bank said, because interest rates are below the appropriate level for these economies.

Veronique Riches-Flores, economist at Societe Generale, said: "This situation raises obvious concerns over the potential impact of such discrepancies on economic developments. The exceptional spread in output gaps between the different euro-zone partners is not sustainable without creating, at some point, some inevitable distortions."

Growth in the euro zone should be confirmed at 0.3% quarter-on-quarter and 1.2% year-on-year for the second quarter, down from 0.5% and 1.4% in the first, and back to its lowest since end-2003.

46 posted on 08/31/2005 9:54:37 AM PDT by DM1
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To: A. Pole

And Soros believes he is the only person who knows how to correct this "overshoot", right? What is an "overshoot" anyway?

47 posted on 08/31/2005 9:57:20 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: DB

Not just the rest of the world, but the neo-cons. Most of these guys are just playing games with money, they don't create anything or generate any wealth.

48 posted on 08/31/2005 10:00:06 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Travis McGee

Having a hard enough time wrapping my brain around our current catastrophe, Katrina. I just can't get worked up about anymore gloom & doom right now or I'll have to go do something constructive like suicide bomb some terrorists.

49 posted on 08/31/2005 10:02:49 AM PDT by demkicker ((Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?))
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To: A. Pole


50 posted on 08/31/2005 10:18:58 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: Clock King
And Soros believes he is the only person who knows how to correct this "overshoot", right?

Probably not the "only" person. Anyway I would NOT put this fox in charge of the hen house.

What is an "overshoot" anyway?

His private technical term. He has developed methods of exploiting "overshoots" for his personal gain.

51 posted on 08/31/2005 10:20:11 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: Travis McGee
Drinking water COULD kill you too....
52 posted on 08/31/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by Osage Orange (PC is BS)
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To: Travis McGee

bump for later

53 posted on 08/31/2005 11:09:17 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Pro-Bush

Reads like one of those "buy gold" commercials.


54 posted on 08/31/2005 11:12:47 AM PDT by FightThePower!
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To: DB
Our power rests in our ability to create things...

This is being eroded by outsourcing engineering, isn't it?

55 posted on 08/31/2005 11:16:41 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Dead Corpse
It just shuffles around what is already there... I would ask you this question, "A dentist, a doctor, an airline mechanic, a pilot all are people that have a job in the service industry. Are they shuffling around the money?" Do they not create wealth? What about a merchant that owns a store? Does he create anything? How about or eBay does the fact that they make available items for sale to the highest bidder create any value for the people selling a pocket watch or old records?

The arguments against the service economy are full of holes. One of my clients is in the recycle industry, he provides a service and 22 jobs, is that bad? Have you seen all the playgrounds that have recycled rubber as the base of the ground? What is so bad about those jobs?

56 posted on 08/31/2005 1:42:37 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a
You are confusing services that have value for trade and commodities that hold value in and of themselves. What good does it do you if you can fix a car engine, but no one has anything of value to trade you for your services?

Full of holes? Depends on how much of a fan of zero sum economics you are and how much socialism/fascism you approve of.

57 posted on 08/31/2005 3:29:12 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: Travis McGee

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.


58 posted on 08/31/2005 3:34:51 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Travis McGee

First of all, keep in mind that imports and exports comprise a mere 15% of the U.S. economy. That's the tail. The rest of the beast is our 85% internal domestic economy.

Now, understanding that imports and exports are taht tiny 15% of our GDP, keep in mind that the "value" of the Dollar inside the U.S. is constant (save for minor variances in inflation or deflation). For instance, you don't get your weekly paycheck and ask "How much would this paycheck buy in Hong Kong today."

Granted, the value of the Dollar matters to our importers and exporters. The "value" of the Dollar determines how much we can buy and sell abroad.

A lower Dollar benefits our exporters; American exports become cheaper to our foreign customers. A higher Dollar benefits American importers (e.g. Wal-Mart).

Typically, about 9.5% of our GDP is spent on imports, whereas we get about 5.5% of our GDP from our exports...but a rising or falling Dollar will eventually change those import/export ratios.

A higher Dollar raises the amount we import over time (these changes in currency values take a long time to filter down to actual changes in purchasing).

In contrast, a lower Dollar raises the amount that we export.

Because the U.S. economy is so large (by far the largest, most vibrant economy in all of world history), these changes make only minor impacts in the U.S.

...but they make ENORMOUS differences to small export nations (e.g. Taiwan, Thailand, Phillipines). Heck, trade with the U.S. is more than 10% of China's entire GDP!

So if India, China, Europe, Japan, and other nations all dumped Dollars, American exports would soar, American imports would plummet, and foreign export nations would all suffer economic crashes.

Throw me into that briar patch.

59 posted on 08/31/2005 3:57:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Time will tell!

60 posted on 08/31/2005 4:38:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- ---)
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