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MSM: Take Note - Clinton's Contribution to the Katrina Disaster ( Must Read )
The Federal Register ^ | September 1, 2005 | EagleUSA

Posted on 09/01/2005 3:21:59 PM PDT by EagleUSA

The MSM began politicizing the hurricane Katrina disaster before it even happened. Of course, their one objective is to blame President Bush, our military and anyone else that represents an idealogical barrier to their agenda. What the MSM has not done, is look in their own backyard -- in 1998 the Army Corps of Engineers provided a Draft Request to pursue the protection of noted areas in the Gulf region, to enhance their ability to survive heavy hurricane damage. The project was summarily REJECTED BY BILL CLINTON as not important.

The complicit MSM is making insane charges and accusations based on emotion and hate. Here, in the Federal Register is SOLID FACT that thier poster child, BILL CLINTON, materially contributed to the conditions which permitted hurricant Katrina to dessimate the Gulf region.


TOPICS: Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: clinton; clintonlegacy; corpsofengineers; disaster; hurricane; katrina; mediabias; msm; neworleans; politicize; x42
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Read the revealing Draft Request. Again we add another black mark to the CLINTON LEGACY.

You may directly access the Federal Record by going to their web site, enter the SIMPLE SEARCH MODE, and enter (with quotes) "fr23jn98-32" to review the entire document.

1 posted on 09/01/2005 3:22:01 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Send it to Drudge although I think FR has more traffic Drudge just goes with one think at a time.


2 posted on 09/01/2005 3:24:03 PM PDT by tiki
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To: EagleUSA
Shut. The. Hell. Up.

If you want to play political games with this calamity, that's fine. If you want to get down in the mud with the liberals and argue over whose fault this natural disaster was, be my guest. But for God's sake, have the decency at least to wait until they fish all the waterlogged bodies out of the streets of New Orleans, huh?

3 posted on 09/01/2005 3:24:47 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: EagleUSA

Personally, I think it is bad taste to try to blame anyone while people are dying. People need to look for a place to help, not a place to lay blame.


4 posted on 09/01/2005 3:24:49 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: EagleUSA

Bump


5 posted on 09/01/2005 3:24:54 PM PDT by tiki
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To: msnimje

I agree but it is the Dims and the MSM who are pointing fingers and maybe a few facts will shut them up and make them take care of business instead of grandstanding.


6 posted on 09/01/2005 3:26:27 PM PDT by tiki
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To: msnimje

Personally, I think it is bad taste to try to blame anyone while people are dying. People need to look for a place to help, not a place to lay blame.

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You are right - it is in horrible taste -- and that is why not only the MSM needs to be exposed in this regard, but if they want to politicize someone or something, LET'S DEAL WITH REAL FACTS as noted in this Fed. Register Draft Request. I am personally sick of the rotten MSM and their gutless reporting.


7 posted on 09/01/2005 3:26:36 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: msnimje
The Democrats already started blaming? Sydney Bleumenthal had a big article the other day.

I think it's fair to use this defensively.
8 posted on 09/01/2005 3:27:54 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Cindy - The new 'C' word! I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: Politicalities

What you said...


9 posted on 09/01/2005 3:29:19 PM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: EagleUSA

Good catch, Eagle.


10 posted on 09/01/2005 3:29:54 PM PDT by kitkat ("We're not going to let anybody frighten us from our great love of freedom." GWB, 7/22/05))
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To: EagleUSA

bump


11 posted on 09/01/2005 3:30:32 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Confirm justice Roberts!)
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To: EagleUSA

How are you getting it was rejected?


12 posted on 09/01/2005 3:30:43 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Cindy - The new 'C' word! I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: MarkeyD

Thank you MarkeyD - I was trying to remember Sidney's name to reference his snide column.

Fighting fire with fire is not a bad thing.

The title of this post apparently did not deter ppl from reading and participating in the discussion.

sp


13 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:13 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD. Tenure allows you to stay put - NOT evict others.)
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To: MarkeyD
I think it's fair to use this defensively.

To paraphrase what my momma and yours told us when we were younger: Two disgusting indecencies don't make a decency.

14 posted on 09/01/2005 3:31:51 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: MarkeyD

I'm curious as well.


15 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:05 PM PDT by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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To: EagleUSA

I want to thank Mr. Jeff Katz, of radio KNEW in the San Francisco Bay area, for allowing me on his program today to ask again for his earlier reference to this Federal Register entry.

Thanks again Jeff!!


16 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:36 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: All
I just knew Katrina was Clinton's fault. Thank you!
17 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:03 PM PDT by dollar_dog
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To: All

Oooooooooohhhh!


18 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:03 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Politicalities

The politics began before the storm hit. The latest salvo is a statement today from Harold Ford, calling Bush's response weak and ineffective.

In an ideal world, we'd be able to deal with this storm without politicizing it. This isn't an ideal world.


19 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:37 PM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: EagleUSA

Please, please get this to the big-name blogs - Hugh Hewitt, Powerline, etc. This needs to get onto the blog world asap.
Thank you.


20 posted on 09/01/2005 3:34:24 PM PDT by hardworking
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To: Politicalities

Defensively, not pro-actively. I can see lib/dems I know throwing this in my face. Why not have a little ammunition?


21 posted on 09/01/2005 3:34:38 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Cindy - The new 'C' word! I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: msnimje

Unless someone was trying to blame Bush .. then it would be okay I bet!


22 posted on 09/01/2005 3:34:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: tiki

Has Clinton come back from Kauai yet? Doesn't he feel our pain?


23 posted on 09/01/2005 3:35:06 PM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: EagleUSA

Thanks for the link, it's great information. Someone in the Clinton administration rejected this, and perhaps the congress as well. Do you have anything on this being "summarily rejected by Bill Clinton" or who asked for the report or why it was rejected? Democrats love wiggle room.


24 posted on 09/01/2005 3:35:32 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: Terpfen
The politics began before the storm hit. The latest salvo is a statement today from Harold Ford, calling Bush's response weak and ineffective.

Yes, that's right. The liberals are being disgusting, as liberals are prone to be. We're better than they are. Or at least I'm better than they are; I can't speak for anyone else. And out of respect for the dead and the dying, I'm going to keep my pointing finger down until a decent amount of time has passed.

25 posted on 09/01/2005 3:35:47 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Politicalities

We aren't the ones who are politizing this - the dems started long before the hurricane ever hit.

The reason .. they want to get their digs in before it's learned that Clinton had the responsibility to help NO and he opted not to.


26 posted on 09/01/2005 3:36:06 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: Politicalities

If you want to play political games with this calamity, that's fine.
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It is clear you don't understand the important implication here -- it is about the MSM and the left. Why don't you direct your scorn to THEM -- they are the instigators of hate-driven accusations. Wake up. We are on the RIGHT SIDE and tired of taking in the shorts from the sleazy MSM --- why don't you call the LA Times and the NYT and tell them TO SHUT UP!!! Hmmm?


27 posted on 09/01/2005 3:37:01 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Some guy was just on FOX and said that it was Bush who wouldn't approve the budget - not Clinton - and the FOX reporter never corrected him.

EeeeeGads! Now FOX is starting to cover for the Clintons ..??


28 posted on 09/01/2005 3:37:27 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: EagleUSA

Copy it before it "disappears, folks."


29 posted on 09/01/2005 3:37:58 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: EagleUSA

Good find, the RATS better STFU now.


30 posted on 09/01/2005 3:38:03 PM PDT by John Lenin (Liberalism: Where shame is a virtue)
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To: MarkeyD
I can see lib/dems I know throwing this in my face. Why not have a little ammunition?

Uh, because it's disgusting and repulsive and indecent and grossly disrespectful to those who are already dead and those who will die in the next few days? Is that a good enough reason?

If you want ammunition to deal with the lib/dems who are throwing it in your face, try this: "I'm revolted that you would even think of politicizing this tragedy while the bodies aren't even cold yet. If you want to talk about whose fault this is, I will be happy to oblige you... later." That's all the response such a slimeball deserves. Anything more makes you a slimeball just like them.

31 posted on 09/01/2005 3:38:33 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: msnimje
Personally, I think it is bad taste to try to blame anyone while people are dying. People need to look for a place to help, not a place to lay blame.

Actually the people to blame are all of us. We in the US let a city of 500,000 grow in an area below sea level over the last 200 years.

Everybody knew that this was not a case of if a disaster would happen, but a case of when a disaster would happen.

Of course the democrats are going to blame those evil conservatives for this, when they themselves with their decades of rule over New Orleans made this disaster ready to happen.

32 posted on 09/01/2005 3:38:45 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: EagleUSA

Is this what became Coast 2050, which has been funded at $14 million per year instead of the $470 million required?


33 posted on 09/01/2005 3:38:57 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: CyberAnt
EeeeeGads! Now FOX is starting to cover for the Clintons ..??

They just haven't done their homework. Again. Sigh.

34 posted on 09/01/2005 3:39:04 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: MarkeyD
The Democrats already started blaming? Sydney Bleumenthal had a big article the other day. I think it's fair to use this defensively.
That it fair.

This isn't as bad as what Bleumenthal wrote - he said things like "bush cut flood control funding by 80% to pay for the war in Iraq."

This article just says that Clinton also canceled something that helped - it doesn't say he had a bad motive.

35 posted on 09/01/2005 3:39:16 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: CyberAnt

Some guy was just on FOX and said that it was Bush who wouldn't approve the budget - not Clinton - and the FOX reporter never corrected him.
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I don't think FOX even knows the facts as documented. Not saying Bush may not have done something later, not sure, but that was not in 1998. Hello FOX ???


36 posted on 09/01/2005 3:39:28 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Politicalities

Are you nuts? If the media politicize this, they MUST be answered. That hardly means that Freepers can't also donate or help out in other ways.

The media simply cannot be allowed to use their usual technique, which is to repeat a lie until it is believed by uninformed readers and viewers. They must be answered NOW, and unfortunately we don't have the luxury to wait until some better time.

President Bush can't get down in the mud and argue with the media, he has a job to do. But we can, and should, counter their lies with the truth.


37 posted on 09/01/2005 3:39:30 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: EagleUSA
summarily REJECTED

Can someone explain what this means? Was it attached to some other bill that was "summarily REJECTED"?

38 posted on 09/01/2005 3:40:22 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: EagleUSA

Good job, ignore the thread nannies who urge decency and then swear at you!

These times always bring out who is on your side, and who is not.


39 posted on 09/01/2005 3:41:46 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: EagleUSA
Just my two cents here, but I would not get this out until we know what happened to this request. Was it killed in the Clinton Admin by political appointees or career Corps bureaucrats? Was it killed in a Congressional appropriation process?

I would imagine the bigger bloggers and Fox News would want to know this before running with it.

If we start waving this around and it turns out that it was defunded in the Congressional appropriations process, the blowback will be far worse than anything we've seen the Dims and the MSM dish out on this subject.

40 posted on 09/01/2005 3:41:48 PM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: Politicalities
"Shut. The. Hell. Up"

Good advice, take it.
The levees are not natural nor are the TV and predatory looters.
Tell the Kennedys to take a ride over the bridge the next time you talk to them.
41 posted on 09/01/2005 3:43:16 PM PDT by BilLies
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To: combat_boots

Why? Did you sight Sandy Burglar near the archives?


42 posted on 09/01/2005 3:43:17 PM PDT by tiki
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To: rhombus

Can someone explain what this means? Was it attached to some other bill that was "summarily REJECTED"?
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In simple terms, this was a proposal, submitted for approval and justified by the Army. Clinton said NO.


43 posted on 09/01/2005 3:43:25 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
You are right - it is in horrible taste -- and that is why not only the MSM needs to be exposed in this regard, but if they want to politicize someone or something, LET'S DEAL WITH REAL FACTS as noted in this Fed. Register Draft Request. I am personally sick of the rotten MSM and their gutless reporting.
44 posted on 09/01/2005 3:44:27 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: EagleUSA

Was it Clinton or one of his toadies in the Pentagon? Does that kind of decision go all the way up to the Pres?


45 posted on 09/01/2005 3:45:26 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: tiki
although I think FR has more traffic Drudge

Unfortunately I don't think so, his site has HEAVY traffic, you're right to suggest sending this story to Drudge

VISITS TO DRUDGE 09/01/05

014,178,297 IN PAST 24 HOURS
241,926,282 IN PAST 31 DAYS
3,523,620,375 IN PAST YEAR

46 posted on 09/01/2005 3:46:22 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: rhombus

Was it Clinton or one of his toadies in the Pentagon? Does that kind of decision go all the way up to the Pres?
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Good question -- not sure. What I heard reported was that Clinton canned it. End of story.


47 posted on 09/01/2005 3:47:04 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Blaming this on Bill Clinton is as stupid as blaming it on Bush. This problem has been on the horizon since the French and/or Spanish first settled the area.


48 posted on 09/01/2005 3:47:53 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (Cultural insensitivity does not constitute torture.)
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To: Mister Baredog

Hey, for once I was sort of right? LOL


49 posted on 09/01/2005 3:48:19 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Cicero
President Bush can't get down in the mud and argue with the media, he has a job to do. But we can, and should, counter their lies with the truth.

Absolutely. ABC World News Tonight just spent 2 FULL pieces (about 10 entire minutes of airtime on their 22-minute nightly newscast) on blaming President Bush for "not doing enough." We are witnessing the MSM Smear Job of the Century. It must not go unchallenged.

50 posted on 09/01/2005 3:48:28 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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