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Relief Workers Confront Urban Warfare
CNN ^ | 9/1/05 | CNN

Posted on 09/01/2005 5:58:28 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Nightfall and rising violence threatened to further disrupt relief efforts Thursday in New Orleans as authorities rescued residents still trapped in the flooded city and evacuated thousands of others living among corpses and human waste.

The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Michael Brown, said his agency was attempting to work "under conditions of urban warfare."

"Please don't send the National Guard," he said. "Send someone with a bullhorn outside the place that can talk to these people first."

He described scenes of lawlessness and desperation, with people simply dragging corpses into corners.

"They have quite a few people running around here with guns," he said. "You got these young teenage boys running around up here raping these girls."

"There are multiple people dying at the convention center," Lawrence said. "There was an old woman, dead in a wheelchair with a blanket draped over her, pushed up against a wall. Horrible, horrible conditions.

"We saw a man who went into a seizure, literally dying right in front of us."

Nagin said that "the convention center is unsanitary and unsafe and we are running out of supplies for [15,000 to 20,000] people."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; neworleans; urban; urbanwarfare
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

BUMP


41 posted on 09/01/2005 6:33:27 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: thoughtomator

A lot has to do with leadership. Guliani had it, and this clown has no clue. Either that or he is in the pocket of the gangsters.


42 posted on 09/01/2005 6:34:43 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Scanner: "Suspects shooting at power workers..."

Being in the power industry, that hits close to home.

43 posted on 09/01/2005 6:35:58 PM PDT by meyer (Eastern Tennessee)
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To: Let_It_Be_So

No way!

The photo I saw had two NO policemen in full dress carting out DVDs and other stuff.


44 posted on 09/01/2005 6:35:58 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: GSlob

Agreed.


45 posted on 09/01/2005 6:36:39 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Do you know Landru, Brother?)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
I'm waiting for some of those earnest neo-anarchists to show up and explain that we don't really need government in this country. They've been kinda scarce on FR over the past few days.

This is Thug Culture. It's the real-world expression of the violence, envy, resentment, and outright hatred that has been deified by popular culture for quite some time now, codified by rappers, fanned by race hustlers and glorified by Hollywood. This is what it looks like. It isn't civil war at all because the good guys aren't shooting back.

What the purveyers of this toxic little subculture do best is blame other people for it, so it doesn't look to be re-examined very soon.

46 posted on 09/01/2005 6:37:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rineaux
they all must be taken out of the city to protect the future of it. either way, once it is under control, those who committed some awful crimes will be coming to a City near you. I'm sure they were crimminals before the storm.

Maybe it would be better to remove as many of the innocents as possible, and then breach the Mississippi Levee.

47 posted on 09/01/2005 6:37:36 PM PDT by meyer (Eastern Tennessee)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
He did not give details as to why. From what? Thugs?

They drowned. They were sent home Sunday night and were trapped in their homes by the hurricane.

48 posted on 09/01/2005 6:38:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Let_It_Be_So

Well, the ammo I saw in the policemans hands was DVD's.


49 posted on 09/01/2005 6:39:42 PM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenance (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

It is embarrassing. We have got to fix this soon. And what is terrible is, these same thugs will be evacuated from the Superdome to the Astrodome. There is no excuse for this inhuman behavior.


50 posted on 09/01/2005 6:39:53 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

I think 'gut check' time was when the looting started and Nagin, Blanco, & the state AG pretty much said it's no big deal. Then it was clear on the streets that it was a lawless city and it degenerated from there.

That's the critical juncture, as far as the looting goes.

What is also clear is that this episode illustrates a broad failure on the local, state, and federal level. After 4 years of homeland security prep, it looks like it didn't matter very much.

The bad guys have to be watching, and the message is clear. The USA isn't ready for a severe bodyblow.


51 posted on 09/01/2005 6:41:30 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: meyer

I can't help but think that shooting a few looters on day one and getting it well publicized would have taken care of most of this problem.

Imagine how different things in NO would be if all these thugs acted like real human beings and used their energy trying to help their fellow man, instead of preying on him.

Another person made a great point in this thread. These thugs are soon to be sent to refugee centers all over the place. Should get real interesting.


52 posted on 09/01/2005 6:41:39 PM PDT by blue running dog
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To: Ruddles

Robbin' on the bayou


53 posted on 09/01/2005 6:43:03 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: brwnsuga

If I were a Houston resident, I would be screaming bloody murder to send the people back to LA. Houston does not have the thug culture to the extent NO does.


54 posted on 09/01/2005 6:44:43 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: brwnsuga

We'd all be better off if they were sent to the Thunderdome.


55 posted on 09/01/2005 6:45:46 PM PDT by Aznar5
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To: HitmanNY

Roger all that.

No different than the fall of Baghdad. They let the people loot to "blow off some steam" and they never recovered from the lawlessness.


56 posted on 09/01/2005 6:46:48 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Looking at the pictures on TV, it seems that the looters are mostly African Americans, with their pants on half mast. Where is Jesse Jackass to instruct the looters about decency, law and caring for fellow humans?
It must be Bush's fault as the RATs are trying to pin the blame.
Sick, sick, sick!!!
57 posted on 09/01/2005 6:47:32 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Why does Chief Moose come to mind everytime I hear a statement from the N.O. Mayor?


58 posted on 09/01/2005 6:48:16 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: Leo Carpathian
Where is Jesse Jackass to instruct the looters about decency, law and caring for fellow humans?

There is no money in that.

59 posted on 09/01/2005 6:50:59 PM PDT by Aznar5
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To: Aznar5
This one?
60 posted on 09/01/2005 6:51:44 PM PDT by Riley (STOP CASTING POROSITY!!)
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