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To: MJY1288

Wardaddy asked me on another thread what lesson I had learned.

Our Constitution provides autonomy for the State governors. They are the only ones now that can mobilize their National Guards within their States to assist in their States, except in the extreme situation where they themselves are defying a Supreme Court order (like 1954 in Little Rock, Arkansas)

President Bush urged Gov. Blanco on Friday last to order a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans. She called for a "voluntary" evacuation on Saturday afternoon, saying the President Bush had urged her to evacuate. (I assume that was so she could blame him if the storm passed them by) Bush declared Lousiana and Mississippi disaster areas of national emergencies two days BEFORE the hurricane hit. That is unprecedented as far as I know, but by doing that a lot of FEMA supplies and personnel could be prepositioned in those States to assist. (But he first had to get the Governors to request that he make these declarations.)

On Saturday night the Mayor of New Orleans was still dithering with lawyers about their liability if he should order the evacuation of New Orleans be mandatory. He and the lawyers decided to have people sign forms refusing mandatory evacuation, and then Sunday morning he finally ordered mandatory evacuation.

However, the Mayor of New Orleans didn't commandeer school buses and start hauling people out. He pretty much left everybody to fend for themselves, as far as I know.

The country knows that New Orleans is one of our most corrupt cities, and Louisiana one of our most corrupt States.

New Orleans has a Democrat Mayor, a Democrat City Council, a Democrat Chief of Police -- Louisiana a Democrat Attorney General, a Democrat Governor, a Democrat Lt. Governor, 24 of 39 Louisiana State Senators are Democrat, 67 of 105 Louisiana State House Representatives are Democrat, there's a Democrat Representative in the House from New Orleans, and one of two Senators in the Senate is a Democrat (The only Republican Senator was just elected last year).

Governor Blanco did not ask for National Guard troops from outside Louisiana to be prepositioned before the hurricane, and then was out of communication with her own troops after the hurricane because of the disaster taking down all the communication systems.

She did not request assistance from the federal government for additional troops from outside Louisiana till Wednesday. (Democrats are always very reluctant to use military, especially in situations that involve African-Americans which comprised 68% of the population of New Orleans, but part of that was due to her not being able to get reports of conditions in New Orleans due to communications being down.) Today, Friday, the National Guard rolled into New Orleans.

Many people in New Orleans didn't leave because they had property they wanted to protect from criminals, because they had elderly or sick relatives or pets that they stayed to care for, or because their welfare or Social Security checks were due to come on Sept 1.

Taking all these and other things into consideration, I think we need to make new law allowing the federal government to assume the leadership role in natural or terrorist disasters. We can't count on each State having a "Giuliani" around to take charge.

There were disaster plans on the boards. Those plans called for mandatory evacuation of New Orleans if threatened by a Category 4 or 5 hurricane. The Governor and Mayor simply didn't do what they were supposed to do in a timely manner, despite urging from the President.

We also need a plan for gathering up the poor and the infirm and getting them out with their ID, and for guarding their property in their absence as best we can, although the latter part of that is a real challenge. We need a system for cancelling any checks that are in the mail and reissuing them in a timely fashion to shelters.

Certainly we need better communications networking with people on the ground in the disaster areas. Bunkers for command and communications need to be built with generators and satellite communications in some areas that are most likely to be wiped out.

Just as the feds have been for some time now not insuring people who build on the Mississippi River flood plain, but are rebuilding their homes above the flood zones -- so do we need to recognize that New Orleans cannot continue to live below sealevel.

Talk in Congress is to bulldoze much of New Orleans and fill in the hole to 10-12 feet above sealevel before allowing rebuilding. Heaven only knows there's a lot of debris along the Gulf coast now that could go into that hole.

There are other things swirling in my head, but I think that is enough now to stimulate discussion here.


138 posted on 09/02/2005 7:36:25 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: patriciaruth

Very interesting and informative...I'm sure I will be quoting you for some time to come. Great Job!


147 posted on 09/02/2005 7:39:49 PM PDT by NordP (Keeping America Great - Karl Rove / Jack Bauer in 2008 !)
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To: patriciaruth

Excellent post Patti, Nail meets hammer :-)


154 posted on 09/02/2005 7:43:33 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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168 posted on 09/02/2005 7:52:34 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: patriciaruth

Clear-headed, excellent summary of the salient points. Thank you.


170 posted on 09/02/2005 7:53:48 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: patriciaruth
Excellent post, patricaruth! I had to read this paragraph twice.

On Saturday night the Mayor of New Orleans was still dithering with lawyers about their liability if he should order the evacuation of New Orleans be mandatory. He and the lawyers decided to have people sign forms refusing mandatory evacuation, and then Sunday morning he finally ordered mandatory evacuation

And that is how liberals would run the war. And how they would lose it. "Dithering with lawyers".

172 posted on 09/02/2005 7:54:48 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Chertoff '08)
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To: patriciaruth; All
Did you know it is President Bush's fault that New Orleans was built below sea level? He should have told the French in 1718 to listen to the Indians when they told them it was foolish to built a city below sea level. *grin*
174 posted on 09/02/2005 7:55:52 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: patriciaruth

Your excellent post.....deserves its own thread.


204 posted on 09/02/2005 8:12:08 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Say 'Goodnight' Cindy.....Your 15 minutes are up!)
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To: patriciaruth

Patti, that's incredible information. Thank you. That helps us answer the libs who are saying that Pres. Bush should have acted faster.


208 posted on 09/02/2005 8:15:32 PM PDT by kitkat ("We're not going to let anybody frighten us from our great love of freedom." GWB, 7/22/05))
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To: patriciaruth
Patty, that's one of the best posts I've ever read on FR.

Would you consider posting that as its own thread? Those things need to be trumpeted far and wide beyond the DOSE.

Just my humble opinion.........you always humble me with your wisdom, patty......

259 posted on 09/02/2005 8:50:08 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: patriciaruth

Outstanding! Way to put such useful information together to be used to refute the propagandist reports we're getting from the MSM!


381 posted on 09/03/2005 6:11:56 AM PDT by Apple Blossom (Michael Moore hunting party)
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To: bmwcyle

Ping.


382 posted on 09/03/2005 6:12:48 AM PDT by Apple Blossom (Michael Moore hunting party)
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To: patriciaruth

Great post, and information that needs to be spread far and wide to counter the bashing that the President is getting right now. With your permission, I'm going to incorporate that info into a letter to the editor of my local newspaper here in MA where they have NO CLUE when it comes to hurricane damage, and even LESS of a clue about the 'chain of command' in case of storms.


408 posted on 09/03/2005 10:03:16 AM PDT by SuziQ
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