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Guardsmen 'played cards' amid New Orleans chaos: police official
Agence France-Presse ^ | September 3, 2005

Posted on 09/03/2005 4:07:38 PM PDT by HAL9000

NEW ORLEANS, United States (AFP) - A top New Orleans police officer said that National Guard troops sat around playing cards while people died in the stricken city after Hurricane Katrina.

New Orleans deputy police commander W.S. Riley launched a bitter attack on the federal response to the disaster though he praised the way the evacuation was eventually handled.

His remarks fuelled controversy over the government's handling of events during five days when New Orleans succumbed to lawlessness after Katrina swamped the city's flood defenses.

The National Guard commander, Lieutenant General Steven Blum, said the reservist force was slow to move troops into New Orleans because it did not anticipate the collapse of the city's police force.

But Riley said that for the first three days after Monday's storm, which is believed to have killed several thousand people, the police and fire departments and some volunteers had been alone in trying to rescue people.

"We expected a lot more support from the federal government. We expected the government to respond within 24 hours. The first three days we had no assistance," he told AFP in an interview.

Riley went on: "We have been fired on with automatic weapons. We still have some thugs around. My biggest disappointment is with the federal government and the National Guard.

"The guard arrived 48 hours after the hurricane with 40 trucks. They drove their trucks in and went to sleep.

"For 72 hours this police department and the fire department and handful of citizens were alone rescuing people. We have people who died while the National Guard sat and played cards. I understand why we are not winning the war in Iraq if this is what we have."

Riley said there is "a semblance of organisation now."

"The military is here and they have done an excellent job with the evacuation" of the tens of thousands of people stranded in the city.

The National Guard commander said the city police force was left with only a third of its pre-storm strength.

"The real issue, particularly in New Orleans, is that no one anticipated the disintegration or the erosion of the civilian police force in New Orleans," Blum told reporters in Washington.

"Once that assessment was made ... then the requirement became obvious," he said. "And that's when we started flowing military police into the theatre."

On Friday, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin denounced the slow federal response as too little, too late, charging that promised troops had not arrived in time.

"Now get off your asses and let's do something and fix the biggest goddamn crisis in the history of this country," the mayor said in remarks aired on CNN.

Blum said that since Thursday some 7,000 National Guard and military police had moved into the city. President George W. Bush on Saturday ordered an additional 7,000 active duty and reserve ground troops.

Blum said any suggestion that the National Guard had not performed well or was late was a "low blow".

The initial priority of the Louisiana and Mississippi National Guard forces was disaster relief, not law enforcement, because they expected the police to handle that, he said.

The police commander was unable to give a death toll for New Orleans.

"We have bodies all over the city. A federal mortuary team was supposed to come in within 24 hours. We haven't seen them. It is inhumane. This is just not America."

Riley said he did not even know how many police remained from a normal force of 1,700.

"Many officers lost their homes or their families and there are many we have not heard from. Some officers could not handle the pressure and left. I don't know if we have 800 or thousands today."



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: dirtyrats; filthyrats; hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; nationalguard; neworleans; neworleanspolice; wsriley
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To: Torie

I'm a Washington fan. I place him head and shoulders above Jefferson and Madison.


161 posted on 09/03/2005 5:38:24 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Torie

By the way, special words of derision are in oreder for another President of the United States., one Lyndon B Johnson. I wish he were still alive so I could tell him what I think of him.


162 posted on 09/03/2005 5:39:37 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: HAL9000

From OUR friends the French... Talk about hate America time. They can't even be nice to us after a tragedy.


163 posted on 09/03/2005 5:39:41 PM PDT by Accygirl
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To: jwalsh07

And he was a Federalist too! He had good judgment, and self restraint. I should have added that.


164 posted on 09/03/2005 5:40:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: jwalsh07

Ah that asshole. I regret I was around to witness it all. The memories still suffuse me with rage, and will until my final exit.


165 posted on 09/03/2005 5:41:42 PM PDT by Torie
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To: HAL9000

I wonder if Commander Riley can enlighten us as to how many Guardsmen have deserted during this crisis, compared to the wholesale bugout of his own force?


166 posted on 09/03/2005 5:42:28 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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To: pepperdog
you can whip up on me,

Not at all. Yesterday was the first time I'd seen Perry and I was mightily impressed.

167 posted on 09/03/2005 5:43:38 PM PDT by Socratic (Liberal's motto: Capio ergo sum.)
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To: Torie
And he was a Federalist too!

Only the Good Lord is perfect. :-}

168 posted on 09/03/2005 5:44:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

LOL. Ain't that the truth. I certainly hope he is there, because I just don't fill the bill. :)


169 posted on 09/03/2005 5:45:25 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

See ya later. Keep the faith.


170 posted on 09/03/2005 5:47:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: FlingWingFlyer

http://neworleans.areaconnect.com/crime1.htm Crime stats for New Orleans.


171 posted on 09/03/2005 5:48:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Echo Talon

172 posted on 09/03/2005 5:48:28 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: HAL9000

173 posted on 09/03/2005 5:48:55 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: itsahoot

174 posted on 09/03/2005 5:50:12 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: livius

Agreed.


175 posted on 09/03/2005 5:50:50 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: Wolverine
The NOPD is the lowest paid and least trained of all 'big city" PD, many have pointed out the corruption before the storm.

Note to everyone, real disaster plans count on a percentage of public employee no-shows. Human nature is to take of your own first, then worry about the job...

Since NO was right at the edge of bankruptcy, the cops may have figured they had nothing to lose by running away.

Several other posters have noted that only you can count on you to take care of you (or words to that effect), to which I will add only this, learn from this to avoid being one of these poor souls seen on the nightly news.....
176 posted on 09/03/2005 5:55:22 PM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: RichInOC
The more I hear, the more it sounds like these guys really screwed up.

Well....at the least the mayor and govenor certainly did. When those in command behave as if it's no big deal and there IS no emergency, you have the makings of a disaster.

177 posted on 09/03/2005 6:00:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: ASOC

Seems like I remember several Police corruption scandles in recent years..


178 posted on 09/03/2005 6:01:07 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: meyer; Texas_Conservative2; PhiKapMom
Which state's guardsmen? Did the governor call for them or did they come on someone else's orders to wait for full staging? Did the complainent have time to supervise his own looting officers while he was criticizing others?
Guess he means the NG from one of these three states since apparently nobody from Louisiana did anything wrong.
(from an AP story on another thread):

In fact, when New Orleans' levees gave way to deadly flooding on Tuesday, Louisiana's National Guard had received help from troops in only three other states: Ohio, which had nine people in Louisiana then; Oklahoma, 89; and Texas, 625, figures provided by the National Guard show.

179 posted on 09/03/2005 6:01:38 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: mewzilla

Well done in finishing off that analogy...


180 posted on 09/03/2005 6:03:16 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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