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Broussard on Meet the Press... More dispute before the storm..
Times-Picayune | July 13, 2005 | Sheila Grissett and Ed Anderson

Posted on 09/04/2005 10:05:05 PM PDT by AngryCapitalist

This is a follow up on my previous post in the Bloggers & Personal section...

SECTION: NATIONAL; Pg. 1

LENGTH: 867 words

HEADLINE: Jeff may abandon evacuation compact; Broussard: Parish security comes first

BYLINE: By Sheila Grissett and Ed Anderson, Staff writers

BODY:

A battle over the state's new evacuation guideline grew more heated Tuesday with Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard saying Jefferson could pull out of the plan and Gov. Kathleen Blanco suggesting it may be time to discuss whether state officials, and not parish leaders, should have the final say on evacuation orders.

In a stinging, four-page letter to Blanco, Broussard criticized portions of the evacuation procedure and some of Blanco's public remarks about the need for southeast Louisiana parishes to stick together and follow the plan, completed three months ago.

During a public appearance on an unrelated matter just minutes after getting the letter, Blanco said one issue that needs considering is whether the state's top emergency personnel, including State Police and Homeland Security, should have the final say on when or if parishes should evacuate.

"We will be talking about that in the next few weeks," Blanco said.

Broussard said Tuesday that he wouldn't turn over decision-making authority unless the Legislature put the state in charge of the process

"I would never willingly abrogate my responsibility," he said.

Contraflow request

The new plan was written to correct mistakes that led to September's nightmare evacuation from Hurricane Ivan. It calls for residents from low-lying coastal communities to leave first, followed by the West Bank and, finally, the heavily populated areas of East Jefferson and Orleans Parish.

Last Friday, Broussard recommended that all Jefferson Parish residents begin a voluntary evacuation at noon as Hurricane Dennis approached Cuba, 50 hours from its eventual U.S. landfall. He also asked State Police to implement contraflow, a system of reversing interstate lanes that isn't called for in the state plan until the winds of a serious storm are about 30 hours from hitting the coast.

Broussard has said the plan isn't flexible enough to provide advance, daylight evacuations for residents in his parish, and he reiterated Tuesday that he would pull out of the arrangement before following procedures that he and his staff don't think are in the best interest of Jefferson Parish.

Blanco had little to say about the controversy Tuesday and offered no direct criticism of Broussard. But she suggested that when emergency officials meet in coming days and weeks to evaluate Hurricane Dennis, a topic of discussion will be who should be authorized to order evacuations.

Blanco didn't say she favors shifting responsibility to the state, only that the concept should be explored.

Although many Louisianians are hurricane-savvy and know when to evacuate, others rely on official direction. In those cases, Blanco said, a premature evacuation is just as harmful as a late one.

"A premature decision causes you problems," Blanco said. "If you do that constantly, people lose confidence" in officials and will not leave when a major storm imperils an error.

"I think this will all work out in the long run, but I think right now emotions are high and everybody's justifying their decisions," the governor said. "I think everybody will settle down and look at the needs of the region."

Stands by actions

Broussard said Tuesday that he remains confident in his decision last Friday to recommend a midday evacuation to ensure parish residents had plenty of time to reach a destination before dark.

The contraflow requested by Broussard would have closed I-10, I-55 and I-59 to incoming traffic at a time when Hurricane Dennis had not yet reached Cuba and before any other parishes, including low-lying communities south of the Intracoastal Waterway, were being advised by their emergency officials to evacuate.

"But I learned my lesson," Broussard said Tuesday. "I won't ask for contraflow again. I'll recommend evacuation and leave it to state officials to implement contraflow."

State officials who helped write the new plan said using contraflow in the final stage of their three-phase evacuation will allow the efficient evacuation of the entire southeast Louisiana region.

"We can move the population out in 50 hours," said Lt. Chris Bodet, evacuation coordinator for Troop B. "Of course, we always like to see people leave early. It makes it easier for them, and it puts less people on the road in the final stage of evacuation. But lots of people can't do that, especially in Orleans Parish, and this is a plan designed for the entire region."

Will stay in line

Broussard said he and his top advisers don't believe that the area can be evacuated in 50 hours. And even if it can, he said, the phased evacuation doesn't give him the flexibility to ensure that Jefferson Parish residents can always begin to evacuate during daylight hours.

Unless he is forced to pull out of the plan, Broussard said, he will continue to try work within the state's guidelines and always give low-lying parishes the opportunity to evacuate ahead of Jefferson.

"Emily is coming," Broussard said of the new tropical storm expected to be near Cuba on Sunday, "and I pledge to the other parish presidents today that I will endeavor to implement this (state) plan without endangering my residents."

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Sheila Grissett can be reached at sgrissett@timespicayune.com or (504) 883-7058.

LOAD-DATE: July 13, 2005


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: boussard; katrina; meetthepress; mtp; russert
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1 posted on 09/04/2005 10:05:06 PM PDT by AngryCapitalist
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2 posted on 09/04/2005 10:06:31 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: AngryCapitolist

Was contraflow ever implemented on the interstates before Katrina hit?


3 posted on 09/04/2005 10:09:35 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: hole_n_one

Aha! You are good.


4 posted on 09/04/2005 10:10:55 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: hole_n_one
Too staged and just when he was going to be grilled. Girly-man defense.
5 posted on 09/04/2005 10:15:25 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: AngryCapitolist; hole_n_one

Great posts!!


6 posted on 09/04/2005 10:16:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: hole_n_one

Who is that guy? I saw him talking about his mama. It was heartwrenching... worse then the guy who couldn't hold on to his wife's hand anymore. I cried and cried and cried! AND, called my mama!


7 posted on 09/04/2005 10:16:57 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: ncountylee
Too staged and just when he was going to be grilled. Girly-man defense.

I missed this somewhere... who is this guy and what is the story. Thanks.

8 posted on 09/04/2005 10:20:09 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma
He was the only one who knew about granny's plight yet he didn't do a damn thing to save her.

All he can do now is blame the Feds.

He should tender his resignation first thing Tuesday morning, the worthless whiner.

9 posted on 09/04/2005 10:21:10 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: ncountylee
"Too staged and just when he was going to be grilled. Girly-man defense."

I agree that he cried because he's incoompetant in his job. Was Timmy Russert going to grill him? NEVER!

In fact, Russert's performance appeared to be more scripted that Broussard's.

10 posted on 09/04/2005 10:21:34 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: hole_n_one
Can you add this to your pics? {I don't want to be "insensitive", but I would not feel "comfortable" with this guy in charge of my town}
11 posted on 09/04/2005 10:22:52 PM PDT by scott says
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To: exhaustedmomma

Parish boss - democrat lib.


12 posted on 09/04/2005 10:23:41 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: exhaustedmomma
Who is that guy? I saw him talking about his mama.

It wasn't even his mama.

13 posted on 09/04/2005 10:24:34 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: exhaustedmomma
A transcript of today's MTP interview of Broussard is here.
14 posted on 09/04/2005 10:24:58 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: exhaustedmomma

Flim flam man defense may be more like it.


15 posted on 09/04/2005 10:25:45 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: hole_n_one

Now THAT is television. With Geraldo rescueing grannies, what was Timmy Russert to do?


16 posted on 09/04/2005 10:27:10 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: exhaustedmomma

This is disgusting. These leaders have no business pulling this emotional nonsense.I realize they're human, but they need to break down IN PRIVATE. The way they are just sitting there, crying and asking for help is STUPID. Drudge was playing Nagin's interview before the hurricane, and he was non-chalant, saying they were basically ready...


17 posted on 09/04/2005 10:28:15 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I have a pic of Geraldo in hipwaders, but I have yet to find the right time to put it up.
18 posted on 09/04/2005 10:31:10 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: The Worthless Miracle
You have to remember one of Louisiana's ad campaigns of the past:

Louisiana: a state of mind

19 posted on 09/04/2005 10:36:40 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.)
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To: hole_n_one
"but I have yet to find the right time to put it

With the way he's carrying on, I predict we will be able to use it within 24 hours.

I just heard the replay of his interview with Bernard Kerrick. Boy, am I glad that guy didn't get an appointment.

20 posted on 09/04/2005 10:38:01 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: hole_n_one

I read it. And, what I saw was just him crying and saying, "They're coming mama." (Repeatedly listing the days of the week.) Just saw it again, on CNN... same thing. Not in context of this transcript. Man, I was hooked in. I didn't know who he even was... he looked like a milk man in that get-up uniform. Sensationalism at its finest.


21 posted on 09/04/2005 10:38:21 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma

I'm so confused.He talked to her everyday on the phone?
I thought no phones were working. "They're comin Momma, then he names each day. That was pretty good. Where was he, in Vegas gettin the rooms for the Mayor and his posse?
Why didn't he go get her. Seriously.


22 posted on 09/04/2005 10:45:24 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: Siobhan

Some of us do think, chere.


23 posted on 09/04/2005 10:45:37 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: hole_n_one

This was the phoniest bs performance I've seen in a while. What a clown this guy is.


24 posted on 09/04/2005 10:46:54 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: Atchafalaya

Kisses!


25 posted on 09/04/2005 10:48:08 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.)
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To: AngryCapitolist
Freepers, we really need to get together a truckload of Prozac to send down to the Government officials in Louisiana.
26 posted on 09/04/2005 10:48:11 PM PDT by msnimje (CNN - Constant Negative Nonsense)
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To: The Worthless Miracle
These leaders have no business pulling this emotional nonsense

Yep. And neither does MSM. It comes back down to propaganda... not even just bias. I am telling you it had me bawling... I mean big time! Outside of feeling "violated" and foolish... it is just downright scarey.

About Nagin readiness plan: He should have known the Superdome didn't have adequate bathrooms. Heck, they don't even hold up during a game. There are only about 150 bathrooms in the dome.

27 posted on 09/04/2005 10:48:21 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: A Citizen Reporter; hole_n_one

Just for fun -- and since Tim Russert had a damn fit today -- I decided that since this was such a BIG DEAL and everybody in the world KNEW what a bad storm this was going to be, I looked back to see what Russert had on his show last week.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad; retired Gens. Wesley Clark, Wayne Downing, Barry McCaffrey and Montgomery Meigs.


Hmmm....I wonder why Mr. Know-It-All wasn't sounding the alarm last week?


28 posted on 09/04/2005 10:48:35 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: MediaMole
Was contraflow ever implemented on the interstates before Katrina hit?

Yes it was. Worked quite well too, for those that had cars.

Would have worked just as well for everyone else if Nagin and Blanco had bothered to implement their own evacuation plan and used the area's school buses and public transport buses to get the carless people out of town too.

29 posted on 09/04/2005 10:48:46 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Pirro '06 - Save New York!)
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To: Atchafalaya

It was a brilliant ad campaign, but applied to this man's performance and Blanco ("Je suis la reine de la Louisiane") and Nagin's weird radio interview this particular ad has an entirely different meaning (as in, Y'all need Prozac!) and so I think the double entendre is delicious.


30 posted on 09/04/2005 10:51:45 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.)
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To: Howlin

Nothing on Katrina? Last Sunday? Boy Russert was woefully misinforming his public. Wasn't he?


31 posted on 09/04/2005 10:52:09 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: AngryCapitolist

Some more info to demonstrate that there was serious ineptitude confustion in NOLA in the months just PRIOR to this event.




The Times-Picayune
July 13, 2005

SECTION: NATIONAL; Pg. 1

LENGTH: 946 words

HEADLINE: 'IT'S A MESS';
Contraflow call in Jeff stirs criticism. But parish president defends his decision

BYLINE: By Sheila Grissett, East Jefferson bureau

BODY:


Jefferson Parish's call for an evacuation with contraflow as Hurricane Dennis approached Cuba on Friday deviated from a new regional disaster plan and drew stinging criticism from some elected officials in neighboring parishes.

"If you are going to have a plan, you have to stick by the damn plan," said Larry Ingargiola, St. Bernard director of Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness. "My biggest worry and the council's worry was that if Jefferson was going to pull the plug that early, what's going to happen to our people?"

The new plan calls for evacuating less-populated, lower-lying communities of southeast Louisiana ahead of East Jefferson and New Orleans, and using contraflow only if needed to finish evacuating the area's two most heavily populated parishes.

Parish President Aaron Broussard made the call at noon, ahead of all coastal parishes.

"I feel totally comfortable based on circumstances at the time and the advice I received from Dr. Maestri," said Broussard, referring to parish Emergency Management Director Walter Maestri.

But it was his request that State Police enact contraflow, or the reversal of interstate lanes, that caused the most consternation.

"Aaron Broussard has a right to order a voluntary evacuation for Jefferson Parish residents whenever he sees fit," St. Bernard Parish Sheriff Jack Stephens said. "But had contraflow been put into place, it would have placed the whole metropolitan area on an early forced evacuation."

Nagin didn't OK evacuation

Had contraflow started Friday at midday, all outbound lanes of Interstate 10, I-55 and I-59 would have been reversed to accommodate evacuees, and inbound traffic would have been blocked, officials said.

Under the new plan devised by the state and endorsed by Broussard and other local leaders in April, lane reversal is for use only in the final stage of an evacuation to accommodate drivers from heavily populated East Jefferson and New Orleans.

Nagin never recommended evacuation for New Orleans. And the presidents of St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes only suggested evacuation for their residents later in the day Friday, which was in keeping with Stage 1 of the plan to clear out low-lying communities 50 hours in advance of tropical-force winds hitting the coast.

Under terms of the new plan, designed to improve on the hair-pulling evacuation experienced before Hurricane Ivan in September, contraflow is intended to begin about 30 hours before a Category 3 storm or larger is expected to strike Louisiana, and it is employed only after the coastal communities and the West Bank have been evacuated.

None of those conditions was in effect Friday at noon, when the strike probability for New Orleans was at 14 percent, and the state refused Broussard's request.

"I achieved exactly what I wanted to achieve," Broussard said Monday. "I gave the people in Jefferson Parish who wanted to evacuate the impetus to do so on Friday and to get somewhere before sundown. . . . I feel totally comfortable, based on the circumstances at the time, and I would do it again if I thought it was best for the people of this parish."

Blanco opposed contraflow

Gov. Kathleen Blanco, whose approval is needed for contraflow to begin, said Friday that she understood Broussard was doing what he thought was best for parish residents. But because regional cooperation is essential to a successful evacuation of the entire southeast area, Blanco said everyone involved needs to keep talking.

But Blanco, supported by her emergency chiefs of staff, said contraflow was unwarranted.

"The governor spoke to Mr. Broussard late Friday. He explained his reasons for deviating from the plan," Blanco spokeswoman Denise Bottcher said Monday. "She listened, and she urged him to follow the plan."

Plaquemines Parish President Benny Rousselle said he also believes the plan can work only if it's followed by all the parishes.

"We didn't put it in blood," Rousselle said. "We agreed we were going to work together."

But he stopped short of criticizing Broussard, who he said called him Monday morning to explain his Friday evacuation decision.

Officials in St. John the Baptist and St. Charles parishes said Monday that they had no quarrel with Broussard.

St. Tammany Parish President Kevin Davis said he talked Friday morning with Broussard and "we were aware of what he was thinking about doing."

In New Orleans, a top official did not criticize Jefferson Parish but did emphasize the need for areawide cooperation.

"If the trigger is pulled by a local jurisdiction, ideally it should be done by all the players," said Terry Ebbert, director of the city's Office of Homeland Security, which supervises the Office of Emergency Preparedness

For example, Ebbert said that if New Orleans executed the plan independently "and clogged all the roads," it would be tough for St. Bernard and Plaquemines residents to evacuate.

"The idea is you roll it up from the coast outward and on up. You let them get out first and then deal with areas where the larger masses of people live. It's a well-developed plan."

"Coordination is essential, particularly in the greater New Orleans area," Bottcher said.

Broussard said he recommended the evacuation because he feared that waiting could have resulted in the kind of extreme congestion that marked the Hurricane Ivan evacuation or perhaps have forced evacuees from his jurisdiction to leave the area at night.

"In the abstract, this plan is a good one," he said. "But what it's missing is common sense.". .
. . . .

Sheila Grissett can be reached at sgrissett@timespicayune.com or (504) 883-7058.

Staff writers Karen Turni Bazile, Charlie Chapple and Frank Donze contributed to this story.

LOAD-DATE: July 12, 2005



When did the Gov. implement the "contraflow" evacuation procedures? Anyone got a good timeline of the events leading up to Katrina?


32 posted on 09/04/2005 10:53:21 PM PDT by AngryCapitalist (Now is the time to stand and fight.....)
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To: MediaMole

If this isn't the perfect definition of a pi$$ing contest, I don't know what is.


33 posted on 09/04/2005 10:56:18 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: exhaustedmomma

worse then the guy who couldn't hold on to his wife's hand anymore. I cried and cried and cried! AND, called my mama!""

Later interviews said it was NOT his WIFE---Was "companiton" of 29 years..Never Married..and I don't know how many children-4 ? 5 ?


34 posted on 09/04/2005 10:58:53 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
Well, being all my credibility is shot out the window anyway... what the heck...

As he was telling his little story, in my "minds eye" I had this little scenerio rolling of "mama" hoovered in an attic. It was a tiny little Titanic. In "mama's" feeble hand was a cell phone. At some point, sanity did click in and I thought, "Cell phones aren't suppose to be working." But, emotionalism overtook me. And logic drowned right there with "mama."
Good point about the phones. Glad to know the rest of yall are keeping your wits. Thanks for snapping me back into reality! Gawd, I've got to filter this news stuff.

35 posted on 09/04/2005 10:58:57 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: ncountylee
Parish boss - democrat lib.

He did support Vitter for Senate.

36 posted on 09/04/2005 11:03:21 PM PDT by dollar_dog
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To: A Citizen Reporter

I think he should resign.


37 posted on 09/04/2005 11:05:05 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: hole_n_one

I don't know who acted more shameless. Tim Russert or Aaron Broussard.


38 posted on 09/04/2005 11:05:56 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: Howlin
I do to.

Resign, Tim. That's the only answer. WE ARE CALLING FOR IT.

Did that sound as loud or as emotional as Tim did this morning?

39 posted on 09/04/2005 11:09:11 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Howlin

You are so on-the-ball it's scary!


40 posted on 09/04/2005 11:09:37 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Siobhan

"Je suis..." lol. No one has had the guts to say what a shithole NO was before Katrina. I lived and went to school there 30 years ago and that was when it started to sink. Oppertunity is here; the taxpayers are riding to the rescue.
BTW, Katleen lost the keys.


41 posted on 09/04/2005 11:17:57 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: Howlin; hole_n_one
"MEET THE PRESS (NBC): U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad; retired Gens. Wesley Clark, Wayne Downing, Barry McCaffrey and Montgomery Meigs.

Without peeking at the transcript would anyone care to tell me what Weasley Clark said about Hurricane Katrine last week?

42 posted on 09/04/2005 11:18:07 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

I looked for the transcript but I couldn't find it.

But, of course, that was last week: last week is so "The Iraq War Is a Quagmire."


43 posted on 09/04/2005 11:19:24 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: exhaustedmomma

I was agreeing with you, not correcting you.
It just struck me that he was able to talk to "Momma" every day. But he couldn't get a boat or a raft or something.
Watching his performance it reminded me of the old
Dukes of Hazzard tv show.


44 posted on 09/04/2005 11:19:24 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Without peeking at the transcript would anyone care to tell me what Weasley Clark said about Hurricane Katrine last week?

I'm gonna guess it was something like......

We need to withdraw all the National Guard troops for Louisiana as soon as possible.

45 posted on 09/04/2005 11:22:05 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Howlin

who?


46 posted on 09/04/2005 11:22:22 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: Howlin
Remember the other night (they all blend at this point) when I told you to listen to the local radio after the mayor was on his rant that, thankfully, got major airtime?

After the mayor was on two Parish Presidents were on and one was Broussard. He did the same crocodile tears shuck and jive on the radio but his story at that time was that his son asked him for gas for the car so he could leave town. He turned on the waterworks and said that he couldn't give his son gas for the car because there was none left. Then he went on to decry the president and the federal effort at length after regaining his composure in a miraculous fashion.

I imagine that this guy has his fingers deep in a Levee Board and possibly further. It was no coincidence that he followed the mayor in such a hamfisted performance that had callers wanting his head for not going and getting aid from the freeway.

47 posted on 09/04/2005 11:25:26 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Remember, they hated Him first.)
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
:)

I didn't take it wrong. I am just reeling at how I was suckered into this hype. And, reminded how twisted the MSM and the left is. Your phone point was so pertinent. Amazing that nobody questioned it.

48 posted on 09/04/2005 11:28:24 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: Atchafalaya
BTW, Katleen lost the keys.

LOL!

49 posted on 09/04/2005 11:30:40 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.)
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To: nunya bidness; Howlin
"I imagine that this guy has his fingers deep in a Levee Board and possibly further."

Yes, that's been fairly obvious. During Broussard's crying jag this morning, he THANKED THE LEVEE BOARD. He did this on national TV.

50 posted on 09/04/2005 11:32:15 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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