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U.N. push for world government, advocates approval of key building block: Law of the Sea Treaty
The Center For Security Policy ^ | August 31, 2005 | Frank Gaffney

Posted on 09/05/2005 8:59:17 AM PDT by Paul Ross

Decision Brief No. 05-D 44 2005-08-31


On eve of U.N. push for global government, advocates urge Senate to approve a building block: The Law of the Sea Treaty


(Washington, D.C.): As concern grows that the United Nations is intent on replacing what the National Security Guidance calls "an orderly arrangement of sovereign states" with a proto-world government - complete with the ability to impose international taxes, a new push is being made for a treaty that would advance that purpose: the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST).

This sovereignty-sapping agenda is at the heart of a dispute now playing out in Turtle Bay, where U.S. Permanent Representative John Bolton is resisting an initiative pushed by governments and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) who are hostile to the United States and/or champions of a supranational government. Amb. Bolton is being savaged by the latter for wisely seeking over 500 changes to a draft Outcome Document envisioned for signature by heads of state and government at a High-Level Plenary Meeting of the UN General Assembly next month.

Yesterday, French President Jacques Chirac underscored his government's intention to push forward with one such tax - on international airline travel, both as a unilateral initiative and together with Germany, Spain, Algeria, Brazil and Chile at the UN meeting. According to the Associated Press, "French authorities said a tax of about $6 per passenger worldwide, with a $25 surcharge for business class, would generate about $12 billion a year. The contribution could be adjusted in poorer countries, so passengers there were not penalized."

The Establishment Strikes Back

It is against this unlikely backdrop, that a group of prominent former and present officials released today a letter to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist urging him to facilitate the "expeditious" ratification of a treaty that would help establish precedents useful to opponents of the Bush Administration at the UN and elsewhere: the Law of the Sea (LOST).

Despite the highly generalized praise for LOST offered by its proponents in the letter dated 31 August, the Treaty is problematic in a number of respects. For example, its governing body would be empowered to impose what amount to international taxes on resources extracted from the ocean floor and subsurface. Parties to the accord, moreover, are compelled to submit to what will, inevitably, be politicized tribunals like the World Court, whose decisions are binding and unappealable. It contains sweeping environmental obligations that make those entailed in the Kyoto accords pale by comparison - especially insofar as the Law of the Sea Tribunal has established that it believes its jurisdiction extends to activities on land and in the air if they might affect the world's oceans.

Perhaps most worrisome is the fact that LOST was shaped by individuals, NGOs and regimes that have sought to use such international agreements governing the so-called "common space" to constrain America's freedom of action and military power. This could be accomplished, were the United States to become a party to LOST, by the use of the Treaty's tribunal and/or arbitration panels to encumber U.S. intelligence collection and submarine activities, by insisting upon the transfer of militarily significant technology and information, and even by prohibiting the interdiction of vessels believed to be engaged in the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

Second Opinions

Opponents of the Law of the Sea Treaty have their own roster of influential figures who can go toe-to-toe on the implications of this accord with those who lent their name to the letter to Senator Frist. In fact, earlier this year, an array of organizations and individuals representing virtually the entire conservative movement joined a press conference at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) to release their own letter to Sen. Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Among those who participated were Senator James Inhofe, chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee; Ambassador Jeanne Kirkpatrick; David Keene, Chairman of the American Conservative Union; Patrick Buchanan, author and commentator; Grover Norquist, President, Americans for Tax Reform; Fred Smith, President, The Competitive Enterprise Institute and Frank J. Gaffney, Jr., President, Center for Security Policy.

Incredibly, the voices of such critics were not afforded an opportunity to be heard when, in the Fall of 2003, the Foreign Relations Committee last considered the Law of the Sea Treaty and approved a resolution of ratification. In the intervening period: serious opposition has emerged; the Treaty was returned to the Foreign Relations Committee with the end of the last session of Congress and must be considered by that panel, and others, afresh; and the Bush Administration has had to confront new realities. Of these, the most immediate is the fact that the sorts of problems inherent in this Treaty are of a piece with those it is currently confronting in the draft Outcome Document for the UN General Assembly meeting next month.

The Bottom Line

For these reasons, if Senator Frist feels the need to respond to the LOST proponents' new letter, it should be with an assurance that any further consideration by the Senate of this flawed treaty will be done in a manner that assures its defects as well as putative merits are carefully and deliberately examined. And, just as the United States must oppose global taxes and world-government-advancing programs at the UN this fall, it should do as Ronald Reagan did in 1982 - namely, reject the Law of the Sea Treaty.



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1 posted on 09/05/2005 8:59:20 AM PDT by Paul Ross
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To: Alamo-Girl; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; doug from upland; kristinn; kattracks; Registered; chimera; ...

Interesting how the socialists in the State Dept. and Senate are so quick to try and ram these through while the nation is distracted by a disaster....


2 posted on 09/05/2005 9:01:36 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Paul Ross

Isn't that what disasters are for? They're great distractions to allow Big Government statist enslavers to do their work.


3 posted on 09/05/2005 9:04:22 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Paul Ross
Don't forget about our most prominent RINO's.
4 posted on 09/05/2005 9:05:17 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Paul Ross

Isn't President Bush in favor of this treaty?


5 posted on 09/05/2005 9:09:54 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Paul Ross

Everyone needs to contact their congress critters to let them know how bitterly opposed to this thing we are. In light of the recent betrayal by the Supreme Court, George Bush, and our "Congressional leaders", it's impossible to trust any of them. They are slowly selling us down the river!


6 posted on 09/05/2005 9:10:33 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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To: satchmodog9
Don't forget about our most prominent RINO's.

I am with you on that one!

Just saw last night an interview that C-SPAN's Brian Lamb did with Arlen Spectre The Defector. I could not believe my ears when I heard Arlen brazenly castigating Rumsfeld during his trip to South America, for pointing out that Venezuela's Hugo Chavez was instigating destabilizing revolutions, and undermining the region's governments.

Spectre had the audacity to say, (paraphrasing): "

Well let's have a hearing first, before Donald Rumsfeld goes and creates a furor with these allegations, let's see the documentary evidence of what Chavez is doing."

Spectre is a complete fool. Who needs Kennedy and Byrd when this clown pretends to be an American Senator?

7 posted on 09/05/2005 9:12:48 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Graymatter
Isn't President Bush in favor of this treaty?

After opposing it prior to 9-11, the globo-socialists claimed it would improve "security" and moved it back into consideration, and a couple bad-actor admirals vouched for this. Last I hear, I believe he is calling it "a good bill". Any questions?

Anyways, there is no amount of lipstick that can dress up this pig. It's still a pig.

Reagan set the Gold Standard on this issue. He not only formally rejected the State Dept. recommendation to submit the Law of the Sea Treaty. A

REAGAN FIRED EVERYONE IN THE STATE DEPT. WHO HAD WORKED ON IT, AND WAS PUSHING IT.

Ed Meese: Reagan Would Still Oppose Law of the Sea Treaty

by Edwin Meese III
Posted Apr 25, 2005 The so-called Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) is a bad idea whose time should never come up -- at least for the United States and for those who believe in economic liberty and national security. That was the view of President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s and would remain his view today if he were with us to express it.

The actual title of the treaty is “the United Nation’s Convention on the Law of the Sea.” As its name suggests, it gives to the United Nations, through its subordinate organizations established in the treaty, unprecedented economic powers and expansive authority over the commercial and maritime interests of the nations of the world.

As Frank J. Gaffney, Jr., former Defense Department executive and President of the Center for Security Policy, has stated, “…it is unimaginable that the United States would choose to expand the power and influence of the United Nations at a time when evidence of the latter’s corruption, malfeasance and inherent anti-Americanism is growing by the day.”

How did such an idea get started? It began in the 1970s, when Socialism was still raging and considered by some elitists as “the wave of the future.” The United Nations still wore the mantle of hope. Jimmy Carter claimed that the world’s energy supplies would be diminished in just 20 years. Time spent in our cars waiting for rationed gas gave some the sense that perhaps the world’s resources should be subject to greater regulation.

No doubt that to diplomats in Foggy Bottom or Manhattan’s East Side, the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) that they painstakingly negotiated, complete with its 17 Parts, 320 Articles, and nine Annexes, was the answer to their dreams.

Proponents of this giant step toward world-level bureaucracy probably could not imagine that the new American president, Ronald Reagan, could reject the treaty and fire the people responsible for negotiating it. But he did. LOST was the creature of a negotiation process dominated by the Soviet bloc and the “non-aligned movement.” It placed its hope on the United Nations bureaucracy. And it was out of step with the concepts of economic liberty and free enterprise that Ronald Reagan was to inspire throughout the world. Time has proven President Reagan right.

Less imaginable is that 23 years later LOST is again being seriously considered by a Republican president and a Republican Senate. It was a bad idea in 1982; it is an unconscionable one now as we protect against new enemies and the internationalist whims of our Supreme Court. A 1994 limited agreement pertaining to deep-sea mining, negotiated by the Clinton administration, but not part of the treaty itself does not make the treaty as a whole any more acceptable.

America’s adherence to this treaty would entail history’s biggest transfer of wealth and surrender of sovereignty. LOST vests in the new international entity the power to regulate seven-tenths of the world’s surface area; to impose production quotas for deep-sea mining, oil production and other harvesting; and to regulate ocean research and exploration.

LOST creates a multinational court system to render and enforce its judgments. This is particularly alarming after a majority of the United States Supreme Court, in Roper v. Simmons, included an unratified international convention as justification for the judicial revision of a portion of our Constitution. Soon the high court will decide whether to honor a decision by the International Court of Justice, under another treaty, that would challenge the conviction of 51 convicted felons and murderers in our prisons who are foreign nationals.

Significantly, LOST creates the authority for an international authority to levy taxes against member countries, ultimately to be paid by taxpayers. This brings the world closer to what United Nations bureaucrats have long wanted -- a source of unlimited income.

Most importantly, the treaty was drafted at a time when positions and actions of nations were relatively predictable. But today new enemies are involved. The sorts of at-sea interdiction efforts central to our new Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI) would be prohibited under LOST. The treaty effectively prohibits two functions vital to American security: intelligence-collection in, and submerged transit of, foreign territorial waters. Mandatory information-sharing would afford enemies data that could be used to facilitate attacks. Obligatory technology transfers would equip adversaries with sensitive and militarily useful equipment and knowledge.

Why has a bad idea, once thought to be dead, now again raised its ugly head? Unfortunately, misguided internationalists have teamed with unrealistic business interests to support the resurgence of LOST.

Some advocates believe that this giant step toward the rigidity of world government would be beneficial for mankind. They minimize the importance of national sovereignty and the value of free market economic decision-making and individualized business negotiations.

There are those in the American oil industry who believe that an international organization will fairly allocate permits for the exploration and exploitation of undersea deposits and they like the idea that the U.S. taxpayers will pay the associated costs.

But experience and common sense demonstrates that whatever inconvenience and expense may be involved in negotiating drilling rights with individual governments on straight business principles cannot justify the creation of a massive international authority susceptible to ideological pressures and potential corruption.

Moreover, much of what the oil industry needs can be achieved through bilateral treaties and the involvement of the international financing system.

Representatives of the U.S. Navy claim that LOST would provide navigation rights that would benefit our country. But the existing 1958 Law of the Seat Treaty already provides such rights without subjecting our naval forces to the compulsory dispute resolution by a UN tribunal, as required by the new treaty. Indeed, LOST provides the opportunity for legal mischief by those forces, both foreign and domestic, who would seek to limit the Navy’s activities.

In short, LOST is an invitation to trial lawyers and their environmentalist front groups to go international, not only against the private sector but also against our military.

The challenge should be clear for those who would follow the principles and implement the vision of Ronald Reagan. The best interests of the United States and of global freedom and opportunity demand that the Law of the Sea Treaty proposed for ratification be sunk, never to surface again.



8 posted on 09/05/2005 9:18:47 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Paul Ross

Thanks for the ping!


9 posted on 09/05/2005 9:24:39 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: NRA2BFree; Live free or die
In light of the recent betrayal by the Supreme Court, George Bush, and our "Congressional leaders", it's impossible to trust any of them. They are slowly selling us down the river!

I am afraid you are right. The price of liberty is eternal vigilence.

It is difficult to see how he could overlook the progeny of this treaty, or of Reagan's clear, definitively correct stance. Either GWB is untrustworthy in his actual motivations, or he is a captive pawn of advisers who are untrustworthy, and he doesn't know enough to thwart them.

Whereas Reagan clearly did. And did so with relish.

I suspect we need look no further than Colin Powell, and Condoleeza Rice for this debacle.

10 posted on 09/05/2005 9:36:16 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Paul Ross
This tax would still cause us to pay most of the UN's livelihood. I say livelihood because for my part at least 80% of the world population lives on the US one way or another. Maybe some of the burden might shift slightly, but we would still be a stupid nation to agree with any tax of any form for the UN. Screw them. Kick them out.
11 posted on 09/05/2005 9:56:10 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Paul Ross
And, just as the United States must oppose global taxes and world-government-advancing programs at the UN this fall, it should do as Ronald Reagan did in 1982 - namely, reject the Law of the Sea Treaty.

Amen to that. I recall Senator Jeff Sessions saying that if he had anything to do with it, the LOST would never see the light of day. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a man like Ronald Reagan in the WH to back him up.

Our Navy goes where it pleases already. LOST will not improve on that. My opposition to LOST will be added to the letter I am sending to my congress critters.

Thank you for posting this. This is an issue being flown under the radar of the American People for obvious reasons. They would reject it.

12 posted on 09/05/2005 10:01:11 AM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
You're welcome.


13 posted on 09/05/2005 10:01:35 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Paul Ross

DICK Lugar is one of the leaders in the LOST push.


14 posted on 09/05/2005 10:03:43 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Paul Ross

One of the main advocates for world government is President Bush. His father, Gush the Elder was shouting for a "New World Order" years ago.

The key is the United Nations through which the world goverment will be administered. Get ready.


15 posted on 09/05/2005 10:05:11 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Paul Ross

Can anyone post a picture of Senator Lugar? He is the RINO poster boy with that stupid grin he wears on his face.


16 posted on 09/05/2005 10:06:55 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Daimler Chrysler's ride is fly, so I won't buy)
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To: planekT; Tailgunner Joe; kattracks; B4Ranch; Blood of Tyrants; endthematrix; Robert Drobot; ...
Our Navy goes where it pleases already. LOST will not improve on that.

Seems like this point keeps getting lost somewhere in the DOD.

We need to go over those two Admirals heads, and nail Rumsfeld and Cheney with the hard-hitting questions.

17 posted on 09/05/2005 10:10:10 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Paul Ross

"...Either GWB is untrustworthy in his actual motivations, or..."

A look at the open southern border answers that question.


18 posted on 09/05/2005 10:10:20 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Daimler Chrysler's ride is fly, so I won't buy)
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To: Paul Ross

Global government will lead to a horrific nightmare world.


19 posted on 09/05/2005 10:13:57 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: freepatriot32; hedgetrimmer; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; marsh2

What round it this now? 6? 7?


20 posted on 09/05/2005 10:16:53 AM PDT by FOG724 (RINOS - they are not better than leftists, they ARE leftists.)
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To: fallujah-nuker
Can anyone post a picture of Senator Lugar? He is the RINO poster boy with that stupid grin he wears on his face.

Agreed. Will this one do? (It comes right from Wikipedia's RINO discussion!)


21 posted on 09/05/2005 10:19:31 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Paul Ross

Have long, with Pres Reagan and others, seen this as an insideous, traitorous, horrid, destructive treaty.

Lord, God, please--hold this back as long as possible. Bring to naught all efforts toward it. Neutralize in fiercely effective ways all who support it, in Jesus' Name.


22 posted on 09/05/2005 10:21:18 AM PDT by Quix (GOD IS LOVE and full of mercy HE IS ALSO JUST & fiercely HOLY. Cultures choosing death shall have it)
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To: Graymatter
Isn't President Bush in favor of this treaty?

Bush seams to be in favor of anything that weakens sovereignty while at the same time claiming to be for strong security.

23 posted on 09/05/2005 10:23:13 AM PDT by raybbr
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24 posted on 09/05/2005 10:24:42 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
25 posted on 09/05/2005 10:28:47 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

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26 posted on 09/05/2005 10:30:35 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: freepatriot32

BTTT!!!!!!!


27 posted on 09/05/2005 10:40:03 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Paul Ross

'We ought not to entangle ourselves in really stoopid entanglements.' (Paraphrasing the Founding Fathers.)


28 posted on 09/05/2005 10:42:15 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Paul Ross
WOW! That is a fine looking RINO! Even got him with the stupid grin. I entered "lugar rino" into google and got 20,600 matches.
29 posted on 09/05/2005 10:45:14 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Daimler Chrysler's ride is fly, so I won't buy)
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To: Paul Ross

INTREP - ALERT - Yet another invasion of our beloved country!


30 posted on 09/05/2005 10:55:14 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: Carry_Okie; hedgetrimmer; Paul Ross

What is it with these damn retired U.S. Navy AdmiralS? Former Secretarys of State I understand, they were half communist when they took the job. Schwarzenegger managed to get on the list too!

James D. Watkins
Admiral, U.S. Navy (Retired)
Chair, U.S. Commission on Ocean Policy

Ambassador David M. Abshire
President, Center for the Study of the Presidency

John Adams
President, Natural Resources Defense Council

Madeleine K. Albright
Former Secretary of State

James A. Baker III
Former Secretary of State
Senior Partner, Baker Botts, LLP

Leon E. Panetta
Chair, Pew Oceans Commission

Robert D. Ballard
Professor, Graduate School of Oceanography,
University of Rhode Island

Ted A. Beattie
President and CEO, John G. Shedd Aquarium

Lillian C. Borrone
Former Assistant Executive Director,
Port Authority of New York and New Jersey

Senator John B. Breaux
Senior Counsel, Patton Boggs LLP

David G. Burney
Executive Director, U.S. Tuna Foundation

David D. Caron
Program Director, Law of the Sea Institute,
University of California, Berkeley

Red Cavaney
President and CEO,
American Petroleum Institute

Clarence P. Cazalot, Jr.
President and CEO, Marathon Oil Corporation

Eileen Claussen
President and Chair of the Board,
Pew Center on Global Climate Change

James M. Coleman
Professor, Coastal Studies Institute,
Louisiana State University

Joseph J. Cox
President and CEO,
Chamber of Shipping of America

Walter Cronkite
CBS

Admiral William J. Crowe, Jr.
Admiral, U.S. Navy (Retired)
Former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff
Chairman, Advisory Board, Global Options, Inc.

Ann D’Amato
Chief of Staff, Office of City Attorney,
Los Angeles

Thomas Dammrich
President,
National Marine Manufacturers Association

Lawrence R. Dickerson
President and COO,
Diamond Offshore Drilling, Inc.

Donald L. Evans
Former Secretary of Commerce

Thomas Fry
President,
National Ocean Industries Association

Paul G. Gaffney II
President, Monmouth University

Robert B. Gagosian
President and Director, Woods Hole
Oceanographic Institution

Representative James C. Greenwood
President and CEO,
Biotechnology Industry Organization

Governor Christine Gregoire
State of Washington

Carlotta A. Leon Guerrero

Executive Director, Ayuda Foundation,
Micronesia Medical Missions

Representative Lee Hamilton
President and Director, Woodrow Wilson
International Center for Scholars

Mike Hayden
Secretary, Kansas Department of
Wildlife and Parks

Geoffrey Heal
Professor, Graduate School of Business,
Columbia University

Marc J. Hershman
Professor, School of Marine Affairs,
University of Washington

Carla A. Hills
Former U.S. Trade Representative,
Chairman and CEO, Hills & Company

Senator Ernest F. Hollings
Hollings Cancer Center

Paul L. Kelly
Senior Vice President, Rowan Companies, Inc.

Donald Kennedy, Ph.D.
Editor-in Chief, Science Magazine
American Association for the
Advancement of Science

Charles F. Kennel
Director, Scripps Institution of Oceanography,
University of California, San Diego

Tony Knowles
Former Governor of Alaska

Christopher L. Koch
President and CEO, World Shipping Council

Governor Ted Kulongoski
State of Oregon

Governor Linda Lingle
State of Hawaii

Jane Lubchenco
Professor, Department of Zoology
Oregon State University

Robert C. McFarlane
Former National Security Advisor
Chairman, Energy and Communications
Solutions LLC

John Norton Moore
Director, Center for Oceans Law and Policy,
University of Virginia School of Law

Frank E. Muller-Karger
Professor, College of Marine Science,
University of South Florida

James J. Mulva
Chairman and CEO, ConocoPhillips

George B. Newton, Jr.
Chairman, U.S. Arctic Research Commission

Senator Sam Nunn
Co-Chairman and CEO,
The Nuclear Threat Initiative

Sean O’Keefe
Former NASA Administrator,
Chancellor, Louisiana State University

Julie Packard
Executive Director, Monterey Bay Aquarium

Pietro Parravano
President, Institute for Fisheries Resources

Governor George E. Pataki
State of New York

Brian T. Petty
Senior Vice President,
International Association of Drilling Contractors

Ambassador Thomas R. Pickering
Former Under Secretary for Political Affairs,
U.S. Department of State

Colin Powell
Former Secretary of State

Joseph W. Prueher
Admiral, U.S. Navy (Retired)

Edward B. Rasmuson
Chairman of the Statewide Advisory Board,
Wells Fargo Bank

William K. Reilly
Former EPA Administrator,
Chairman, World Wildlife Fund

Joseph P. Riley, Jr.
Mayor of Charleston, South Carolina

David Rockefeller, Jr.
Vice Chair, National Park Foundation

Andrew A. Rosenberg
Professor, Department of Natural Resources and
Institute for the Study of Earth, Oceans and Space
University of New Hampshire

William D. Ruckelshaus
Strategic Director, Madrona Venture Group

Roger T. Rufe, Jr.
President, The Ocean Conservancy

Barry Russell
President,
Independent Petroleum Association of America

Paul A. Sandifer
Senior Scientist, National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration

William L. Schachte, Jr.
Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (Retired)

Harry N. Scheiber
Co-Director, Law of the Sea Institute,
University of California, Berkeley

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State of California

Governor Togiola Tulafono
U.S. Territory of American Samoa

Marilyn Ware
Chairman Emeritus, American Water

Kathryn Sullivan
President and CEO,
Center of Science and Industry

Strobe Talbott

Richard D. West
President, Consortium for Oceanographic
Research and Education

Patten D. White
CEO, Maine Lobstermen’s Association

Russell E. Train
Chairman Emeritus, World Wildlife Fund

cc: President George W. Bush
Vice-President Richard B. Cheney
Secretary Condoleezza Rice
Senator Harry M. Reid
Senator Richard G. Lugar
Senator Joseph R. Biden


31 posted on 09/05/2005 11:12:56 AM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: Paul Ross

Bolton is causing havoc at the UN by fighting AGAINST what the UN is trying to sneak through. It even says so in the posted article. That's why Bolton was appointed by President Bush.

"This sovereignty-sapping agenda is at the heart of a dispute now playing out in Turtle Bay, where U.S. Permanent Representative John Bolton is RESISTING an initiative pushed by governments and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) who are hostile to the United States and/or champions of a supranational government. Amb. Bolton is being savaged by the latter for wisely seeking over 500 changes to a draft Outcome Document envisioned for signature by heads of state and government at a High-Level Plenary Meeting of the UN General Assembly next month."


32 posted on 09/05/2005 11:14:57 AM PDT by plushaye (President Bush: W-2-4-4!! God Bless him and his administration.)
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To: raybbr

Well said!


33 posted on 09/05/2005 11:18:04 AM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: Quix
Lord, God, please--hold this back as long as possible.

You know, that prayer sounds like you've surrendered to it already.

It hasn't been confirmed, and with the proper pressure in the right places, it never will be.

Cheers!

34 posted on 09/05/2005 11:38:37 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Paul Ross

A CHRONOLOGICAL HISTORY OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b2aa8747413.htm

a package of 34 treaties, all of which were ratified by a show of hands -- no recorded vote.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a325b3f5d31.htm

Annan in historic meeting with Supreme Court &Congress/is believed to be unprecedented.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b0c30a81760.htm


35 posted on 09/05/2005 12:31:43 PM PDT by cope85
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To: B4Ranch

Now we know why the RATS didn't want Bolton in the UN.


36 posted on 09/05/2005 12:42:11 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Paul Ross; Jeff Head
Jeepers, this is so OBVIOUS.

The acronym for this treaty is LOST.

Just like we should rename
"Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS)"
to
"Supreme Court, Rulers of the United Metrosexual States (SCROTUMS)"

Cheers!

37 posted on 09/05/2005 1:04:22 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: raybbr

Why would Bush appoint Bolton then if he was so for this treaty and the UN? Your statement doesnt jive with whats going on.


38 posted on 09/05/2005 1:36:03 PM PDT by badgerbengal (close the border and open fire.)
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To: Paul Ross

What kills me is the rah-rah support for John Bolton by conservatives. We don't need a UN ambassador at all, because we never should have a member of the UN in the first place. The solution to the UN problem is to for the US to get out of the UN and kick it out of the US!


39 posted on 09/05/2005 1:38:30 PM PDT by Mush MouthPhil (socialism is a drug in the nation's system)
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To: grey_whiskers
It hasn't been confirmed, and with the proper pressure in the right places, it never will be.

I'm not giving up either...but I can understand his frustration...we are fighting the entire system, for all practical purposes, because we already lost the high ground, the White House.

The President himself has thrown in with these characters. The treaty can't be presented unless he tenders it. He is backing it the whole way.

And frankly when we are on our knees praying....and 'looking to the hills for our help'...that is when we are truly in fighting form...and at our most effective.

Who can stand against HIM?

40 posted on 09/05/2005 1:50:48 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Mush MouthPhil
We don't need a UN ambassador at all, because we never should have a member of the UN in the first place.

Agreed. I am afraid that Bolton was mere window-dressing to rescue the popular acceptance of the U.N. in the U.S., so that it's tentacles can be further expanded.

Notice how the Bush Administration has the thrust-reversers on full about doing anything about the Oil For Food scandal. How they, and Colin Powell, went out of their way to muzzle Senator Norm Coleman's inquiry.

Kofi Annan should already be chained in an orange jump suit...rigt next to Saddam himself.

41 posted on 09/05/2005 1:56:21 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: zip

ping


42 posted on 09/05/2005 2:23:54 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: badgerbengal
It is likely they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. They still want the U.N., just not as manifestly running amok usurping the U.S.-powers-that-be authority....


43 posted on 09/05/2005 2:38:22 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: B4Ranch
Paul G. Gaffney II President, Monmouth University

Any family ties to Frank Gaffney? If so, those would be rather tense family get-togethers...

44 posted on 09/05/2005 2:39:44 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Paul Ross
The real "Key" piece of legislation will be the international social security number that is your credit card number for life. Till then the New World Order is but naughty child's play. Once the charismatic leader sells the number on the play that humanity is really God, join humanity, you buy bread with your soul.

Then the NWO will have real consequences.
45 posted on 09/05/2005 2:53:20 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Paul Ross

Thanks for the ping


46 posted on 09/05/2005 3:23:32 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: badgerbengal
Why would Bush appoint Bolton then if he was so for this treaty and the UN? Your statement doesnt jive with whats going on.

What has Bush done to strengthen our sovereignty? He and his cronies pushed CAFTA which weakens our sovereignty, he won't take a stand and protect our borders, he has not stopped the military from prosecuting our soldiers for things they had to do in times of war.

Tell me, other than appointing Bolton to the UN (Which I feel we should simply opt out of) has he done to strengthen our sovereignty?

By the way, nothing has changed vis-a-vis our treaty with the UN. If and when thing change you can use that as example.

47 posted on 09/05/2005 3:25:43 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: Paul Ross

If we were signatories of LOST at this time, what would happen to us when we start pumping out that toxic soup from NO. Would we be required to stop? Would we be fined some outrageous ten figure amount. Would the UN place sanctions against us?


48 posted on 09/05/2005 3:30:05 PM PDT by Roccus (Able Danger? What's an Able Danger?)
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To: grey_whiskers

Note post 35.

Note Ezekiel 35-39; Daniel 7-12;

Matt 24; Revelation all

Pay particular attention to the parts touching on the evil world government.

Remember that it's God Almighty writing.


49 posted on 09/05/2005 6:29:21 PM PDT by Quix (GOD IS LOVE and full of mercy HE IS ALSO JUST & fiercely HOLY. Cultures choosing death shall have it)
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To: FOG724

It's not surprising who you find as signators of the letter.

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/ProLOSTletter.pdf

David G. Burney
Executive Director, U.S. Tuna Foundation

Joseph J. Cox
President and CEO, Chamber of Shipping of America

David D. Caron
Program Director, Law of the Sea Institute, University of California, Berkeley

Walter Cronkite
CBS

Red Cavaney
President and CEO, American Petroleum Institute

Admiral William J. Crowe, Jr.
Admiral, U.S. Navy (Retired); Former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff;
Chairman, Advisory Board, Global Options, Inc.

Clarence P. Cazalot, Jr.
President and CEO, Marathon Oil Corporation

Ann D’Amato
Chief of Staff, Office of City Attorney, Los Angeles

Eileen Claussen
President and Chair of the Board, Pew Center on Global Climate Change

Thomas Dammrich
President, National Marine Manufacturers Association

James M. Coleman
Professor, Coastal Studies Institute, Louisiana State University

Lawrence R. Dickerson
President and COO, Diamond Offshore Drilling, Inc.

Donald L. Evans
Former Secretary of Commerce

Governor Christine Gregoire
State of Washington

Thomas Fry
President, National Ocean Industries Association

Carlotta A. Leon Guerrero
Executive Director, Ayuda Foundation, Micronesia Medical Missions

Paul G. Gaffney II
President, Monmouth University

Representative Lee Hamilton
President and Director, Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars

Robert B. Gagosian
President and Director, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

Mike Hayden
Secretary, Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks

Representative James C. Greenwood
President and CEO, Biotechnology Industry Organization

Geoffrey Heal
Professor, Graduate School of Business,
Columbia University

Marc J. Hershman
Professor, School of Marine Affairs, University of Washington

Tony Knowles
Former Governor of Alaska

Carla A. Hills
Former U.S. Trade Representative, Chairman and CEO, Hills & Company

Christopher L. Koch
President and CEO, World Shipping Council

Senator Ernest F. Hollings
Hollings Cancer Center

Governor Ted Kulongoski
State of Oregon

Paul L. Kelly
Senior Vice President, Rowan Companies, Inc.

Governor Linda Lingle
State of Hawaii

Donald Kennedy, Ph.D.
Editor-in Chief, Science Magazine
American Association for the Advancement of Science

Jane Lubchenco
Professor, Department of Zoology, Oregon State University

Charles F. Kennel
Director, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego

Robert C. McFarlane
Former National Security Advisor
Chairman, Energy and Communications Solutions LLC

John Norton Moore
Director, Center for Oceans Law and Policy, University of Virginia School of Law

Julie Packard
Executive Director, Monterey Bay Aquarium

Frank E. Muller-Karger
Professor, College of Marine Science, University of South Florida

Pietro Parravano
President, Institute for Fisheries Resources

James J. Mulva
Chairman and CEO, ConocoPhillips

Governor George E. Pataki
State of New York

George B. Newton, Jr.
Chairman, U.S. Arctic Research Commission

Brian T. Petty
Senior Vice President,
International Association of Drilling Contractors

Senator Sam Nunn
Co-Chairman and CEO, The Nuclear Threat Initiative

Ambassador Thomas R. Pickering
Former Under Secretary for Political Affairs, U.S. Department of State

Sean O’Keefe
Former NASA Administrator, Chancellor, Louisiana State University

Colin Powell
Former Secretary of State

Joseph W. Prueher
Admiral, U.S. Navy (Retired)

William D. Ruckelshaus
Strategic Director, Madrona Venture Group

Edward B. Rasmuson
Chairman of the Statewide Advisory Board, Wells Fargo Bank

Roger T. Rufe, Jr.
President, The Ocean Conservancy

William K. Reilly
Former EPA Administrator, Chairman, World Wildlife Fund

Barry Russell
President, Independent Petroleum Association of America

Joseph P. Riley, Jr.
Mayor of Charleston, South Carolina

Paul A. Sandifer
Senior Scientist, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

David Rockefeller, Jr.
Vice Chair, National Park Foundation

William L. Schachte, Jr.
Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (Retired)

Andrew A. Rosenberg
Professor, Department of Natural Resources and Institute for the Study of Earth, Oceans and Space, University of New Hampshire

Harry N. Scheiber
Co-Director, Law of the Sea Institute, University of California, Berkeley

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State of California

Governor Togiola Tulafono
U.S. Territory of American Samoa

Kathryn Sullivan
President and CEO, Center of Science and Industry

Marilyn Ware
Chairman Emeritus, American Water

Strobe Talbott

Richard D. West
President, Consortium for Oceanographic Research and Education

Russell E. Train
Chairman Emeritus, World Wildlife Fund

Patten D. White
CEO, Maine Lobstermen’s Association


50 posted on 09/05/2005 9:35:49 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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