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FEMA Director's Credentials in Question
WZZM ( Grand Rapids) ^ | 9 Sept 2005 | Staff

Posted on 09/09/2005 7:41:04 AM PDT by Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

Washington - The criticism of FEMA Director Michael Brown continues. Now his credentials are facing new questions.

Time Magazine reports his official bio and online legal profile have discrepancies. Brown's bio on the FEMA Web site said he oversaw emergency services in Edmond, Oklahoma. But a spokeswoman for the city tells Time that Brown's position was "more like an intern."

A FEMA official says Brown did start as an intern, but became an assistant city manager and had a distinguished record.

The magazine also reports Brown's profile on the Web site FindLaw-dot-com lists him as an "outstanding Political Science Professor" at Central State University. The school says he was a student.

In New Orleans, police say just about everyone willing to leave the city is gone. Now officers say they're prepared to carry out the mayor's order to forcibly remove the estimated 5,000 to 10,000 people who remain in their homes.

The residents are being forced out because of sanitary conditions, a lack of utilities and the inability to effectly protect them from harm.

Meantime, President Bush says the federal government will stand by Hurricane Katrina's victims as they rebuild. But he says more money will be needed. Yesterday, Bush signed a 52 billion dollar relief package, pushing federal funding to more than 62 billion dollars.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: disasterrelief; fema; michaelbrown; neworleans
Based on what's in his resume, I have a better background in federal disaster planning, and no one ever called me an expert in the field.
1 posted on 09/09/2005 7:41:05 AM PDT by Our_Man_In_Gough_Island
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

He's the deputy of FEMA for a year and a half.


2 posted on 09/09/2005 7:42:41 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Baynative

Fema and Brown handled all the huricans in florida perfectly last year. No one complained.

The dems just want heads - Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice, Cheney


This is just more leftist head-hunting.


4 posted on 09/09/2005 7:46:19 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

I venture that most, if not all, of the elected officials in Washington are not qualified to fill their job either. They do not listen to their constiutents ( which is the main job description ) they do not keep the country's best interest at heart, and they accomplish very little outside of beltway balls, golf and junkets.

I wish I had a job that paid over $135,000 a year, got great retirement and beneifts and I only had to work 5-6 months a year and produce only about 20% of the time and the product was worthless and all my expenses were paid.

Nagin worked at the cable company before becoming mayor. What was he qualified for, plugging in stolen tv's?

Landrieu and Blanco ( and others ) couldn't even run a household and got elected to run a state and country.


5 posted on 09/09/2005 7:48:31 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island
Well they were good enough for Congress to approve him.

The notion that Congress is just a bystander to all that happens has got to end.
6 posted on 09/09/2005 7:48:46 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

This guy's toast. He'll be the first resignation coming from this debacle. This time next week, he's gone.


7 posted on 09/09/2005 7:51:25 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Hate yourself? Hate everybody else, too? You'll be at home with the Democrats!)
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

He's got an impressive resume. He has exellent, recent experience with the hurricanes in Florida. Katrina was ntothe first disaster he dealt with.

The press is going back to when he was an intern to try and find, or as it looks in this case fabricate, things to make him look unqualified.


8 posted on 09/09/2005 7:51:31 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

To a certain extent, that's right, but it is also an objectively important news item to report. When TIME goes around digging into backgrounds on resumes, that is an critical point in the threshold of public criticism, and when they find something that isn't 100% accurate, that's another threshold. Personally, I don't think " wagon training" is going to make the issue go away at this point.


10 posted on 09/09/2005 7:57:59 AM PDT by Our_Man_In_Gough_Island
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

The DUmocrats know they can't take Brown down for legitimate reasons, so they are digging for anything. Also changes the focus of who is really to blame.


11 posted on 09/09/2005 8:05:08 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

Did he say he was a Cherokee Indian?


12 posted on 09/09/2005 8:05:26 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Perdogg

He's the deputy of FEMA for a year and a half.

What's your point? Are you saying discrepancies in credentials shouldn't matter if a person lied to get a job? If so, are what you are really saying is that YOU have lied on your resume too, and its no big deal?


13 posted on 09/09/2005 8:06:55 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I just noticed this is also on my AOL opening screen, reaching a couple zillion more potential critics. Looks like Brown has some problems.


14 posted on 09/09/2005 8:11:23 AM PDT by Our_Man_In_Gough_Island
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

To me an upper eschelon former military ground commander
with plenty of combat time would have the best background
for such a position..

Tommy Franks-Gen Honore type of guy


15 posted on 09/09/2005 8:12:18 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Tired_of_the_nonsense

Here’s some links, found easily on the web...


Wow. Your defense can only come from someone who knows him directly, or works for him. Which is it?

The previous bloggers were correct. The FEMA head is historically a place for people that helped on campaigns. I would expect a little more credibility and vetting in this job. I did a paper on this while in graduate school.

Even so, I do not think the response was primarily a FEMA problem. At least not yet. FEMA has people that have worked there for years. They can give advice. What I want to see is what that advice was, and what did Brown do with it.


16 posted on 09/09/2005 8:13:13 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

They could have brought all of this up during the Florida hurricanes, why now? The timing of this is suspicious.


17 posted on 09/09/2005 8:15:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: joesnuffy

To me an upper eschelon former military ground commander.

I like Franks. However, don't discount individuals that have ran organizations like the RED CROSS, except those that falsely ran the campaign for 9/11 and the donations went elsewhere. That was a marketing mess. That person got booted.

Both former military and disaster organization heads are good candidates for this.


18 posted on 09/09/2005 8:16:41 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
If he seriously lied on his resume, then he should leave.

But NOT NOW. Why? Because we're still in the middle of a disaster, and to date, I haven't seen any evidence of significant screw-ups that are Mike Brown's fault;

and he did a fine job as a deputy FEMA official in last year's Florida hurricanes. I believe he's as well qualified as practically else to discharge FEMA's duties.

Brown's in trouble IMO solely because the media decided, in concert, to target him as this week's Bush surrogate (Rove's getting a short break).

Those who demand Brown's head, please show me specifically what HE has done wrong. And while you're doing that, keep in mind that...

- FEMA has no police power to quell public disturbances;
- FEMA has no police force to protect its personnel from being shot at;
- FEMA is NOT empowered to be a first responder;
- FEMA must wait for state officials to first call them in, and then direct them to the sites where their aid is most needed.

Clearly, the state and local authorities who were legally charged with the above four functions, totally failed. So what did you expect Brown to do? Wave a magic wand?

And while we're at it, if the media are going to do an anal exam of Brown's resume, I want to see them do the same for the resumes of:

"Governor" Blank-0
Mayor Naggin'
Jesse Jackson
Nancy Pelosi
and Mary "Punch" Landrieu

19 posted on 09/09/2005 8:30:09 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: Tired_of_the_nonsense

Clinton used FEMA to place his cronies as well, so both parties are guilty. Sadly it takes a tragedy to point out that perhaps this position is more important than thought. And I think Brown, while not perfect, has done a capable job. They could have pointed out his resume during the Florida hurricanes, they didn't do it then.

There will be plenty of time to sort all of this out. For now, I hate to disappoint the knee-jerkers, but Brown isn't going anywhere.


21 posted on 09/09/2005 8:34:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

His resume also says that he went into Cambodia during Christmas.

Or was that someone else?


22 posted on 09/09/2005 8:43:00 AM PDT by kidd
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To: shhrubbery!

"And while we're at it, if the media are going to do an anal exam of Brown's resume, I want to see them do the same for the resumes of:..."

The difference is anyone with or without credentials can get elected. However, it is very important for senior level appointees be on the up and up on their credentials when they are appointed, and their needs to be a process in place to fact check someone.

Really, this is a separate issue. I do not think the response of FEMA is or will be a significant issue. Who would send anyone in an area where no military presence exists, or local cops left their duties, in light of the roving bunch of murderous raping thugs are on the streets? The bottom line on this minute thread of contention is Bush's appointments should not be embarassing him, or making him look bad.

I don't expect Brown to have done anything different because I haven't seen internal memos on his actions have not come to light. You are right that this is a state and local issue. THE F-ING CITY IS BUILT IN A BOWL!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 09/09/2005 8:43:49 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Tired_of_the_nonsense
Clinton hypocrisy

Though Sen. Clinton touted former FEMA director Witt's experience, she made no mention of Raymond 'Buddy' Young, whom her husband appointed to the post of Southwest Regional FEMA Director in 1993.

Mr. Young, a former Arkansas state trooper, won the promotion after heading up efforts to discredit other state troopers whose allegations fueled the Troopergate scandal. Had Katrina struck during the 1990s, Young would have had jurisdiction over disaster relief efforts for New Orleans.

Despite that kind of cronyism, Mrs. Clinton painted FEMA as a model agency when her husband's appointees ran it. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/6/235212.shtml Since you’re likely to follow the DNC’s blame game model, and this Chertoff is probably next, let me remind you of some facts regarding his nomination:

Young was a great choice...as head of FEMA any time you need someone to beat the ballz off one of your concubines neighbors with the misfortune of having a camera pointed at his door that accidentally also covers hers...you can have a team of thugs do it to it...

From body guard to FEMA head...it's not just about who you know...but what you know..(of course that could earn you a body bag as well as a nice fat 100K a yr job...depending)

To quote J. Lennon...just imagine..Hillary Clinton managing the War on Terror.. The Border Wars and the Dept. of Internal Strife...

Wow what a concept

imo

24 posted on 09/09/2005 8:45:27 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
I'd take Mr. Brown as head of FEMA ...ANY day of the week over what we once had...or still might have

imo

25 posted on 09/09/2005 8:46:46 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: untrained skeptic

THe press is worried about his resume?

Rather than the Gov of La's decision not to feed or water her citizens who were sent to a hell without capacity to maintain order. People died, were raped, murdered in the Gov's shelter and the press is tracking down resumes?


26 posted on 09/09/2005 8:49:10 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

Why don't you post your resume so we can decide.


27 posted on 09/09/2005 8:49:34 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

FOx and Friends have already debunked this story, it originalted in the NYT's.


28 posted on 09/09/2005 8:50:07 AM PDT by marty60
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

FOx and Friends have already debunked this story, it originalted in the NYT's.


29 posted on 09/09/2005 8:50:18 AM PDT by marty60
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

Wasn't that what the communists used to say to prevent people from fleeing or from Westerners going to a Commie county. "I'm sorry, you cannot proceed as your credentials are not in order".


30 posted on 09/09/2005 9:01:58 AM PDT by LA Conservative (The fourth estate is the fifth column)
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To: shhrubbery!

Your post exposes the obvious; Brown is the fall guy for the democrats failure in Louisiana. The idea that we would be asking for accountability from Mike Brown, "before" Mayor Nagin, Governor Blanco...and perhaps more importantly, Terry Ebbert is a joke.

In fact, Ebbert may be the most responsible since he was the city's Homeland Security Director, whose responsibilities were to coordinate regional efforts between the city, state and federal agencies:

http://www.securitymanagement.com/library/001489.html


32 posted on 09/09/2005 9:11:18 AM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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In fact, Ebbert may be the most responsible since he was the city's Homeland Security Director

Yeah, but every single media interview I've seen of Ebbert, they ask him no hard questions.

The media treat Ebbert as if somehow HE were an expert and a Cassandra who forecast the terrible future -- but went unheeded by the eeeeeevil Bush administration.

33 posted on 09/09/2005 9:55:34 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: Our_Man_In_Gough_Island

Well, TIME didn't look at his resume. They looked at the biography on the FEMA web site. The web site says Brown was an assistant city manager. A representative from the city says he was an assistant to the city manager.

A representative of FEMA says he started as an intern and worked his way up.

Now the government keeps careful records on every employee and obviously records their job title and their duties.

Why is it that this reporter didn't look farther into this issue rather than reporting contradictory stories without checking into this farther?

You would think that a responsible journalist wouldn't want to libel someone with such accusations without getting the facts.


34 posted on 09/09/2005 10:04:14 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: shhrubbery!

And this is why the media is a fraud.

Early in 2003, Mr. Ebbert was appointed by New Orleans mayor C. Ray Nagin to the position of director for homeland security and public safety.
"Ebbert is a retired U.S. Marine Corps colonel who formerly served as director of security for Boeing Petroleum Services as well as executive director of the New Orleans Police Foundation, so he brings both private-sector security knowledge and law enforcement know-how to the position.

Ebbert noted that, "I have responsibility for coordinating with all the federal and state agencies on behalf of the city in all areas of homeland security. I have operational control of the police department, fire department, and the office of emergency preparedness, and I report directly to the mayor."

From Security Management Online (Sept-2003):

Louisiana is strengthening homeland security in a number of ways, says retired Colonel Jadwin (Jay) Mayeaux, Jr., the division chief for operations and homeland security within the homeland security division of the Louisiana Office of Emergency Preparedness (LOEP). One initiative is the Rapid Response Force, a group of more than 1,200 National Guard soldiers in 11 teams in nine metropolitan areas, including New Orleans. This on-call force can respond immediately to a crisis and reinforce on-site personnel, says Mayeaux.

Another initiative is the Special Reaction Team (SRT), three groups of National Guard soldiers (most of whom work for civilian law enforcement agencies) who "help train and work as a cadre for the Rapid Reaction Force," according to Mayeaux. They can assist and augment civilian authorities and train soldiers in MP tasks. Both groups have been called in to assist New Orleans several times (most recently during college basketball's Final Four weekend) to help the city beef up its law enforcement efforts."

With all the cries I hear over Mike Brown and his "resume" I find it ironic that the men with a similar (if not more relevant) job description in Louisiana have as much or more of the very experience that some are now demanding of the FEMA director. Yet, even with all this experience and so-called preparidness, none of this city's plans were evident before Hurricane Katrina came through.

Even more disgusting is that these very people were the one's responsible for coordinating with FEMA "before" this crisis hit...and as we are now learning, didn't do that. This is the group responsible for failing to let food and water into the city. The media needs to be exposed for the poltical hacks they are.


35 posted on 09/09/2005 11:15:48 AM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: untrained skeptic

Last year, FEMA handed out money in South Florida where they had minimal damage. It was quite a chunk of change. The taxpayers will never see it again.


36 posted on 09/09/2005 1:01:40 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: floriduh voter

http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/D8CGUQN88.html


37 posted on 09/09/2005 1:32:55 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
This guy's toast. He'll be the first resignation coming from this debacle. This time next week, he's gone

Great prediction.

38 posted on 09/12/2005 2:47:28 PM PDT by Our_Man_In_Gough_Island
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