Posted on 09/09/2005 2:48:40 PM PDT by rightalien
Former Secretary of State Speaks Out on Being Loyal -- and Being Wrong
Sep. 9, 2005 - In 35 years of service as a soldier, Colin Powell earned a reputation as the quintessential disciplined warrior. As secretary of state in President Bush's first term, Powell was widely seen as a disciplined, moderate -- and loyal -- voice for the administration. Now out of government service, Powell is airing openly his disappointments and frustration on everything from the invasion of Iraq to the federal response to Hurricane Katrina.
Powell, 68, who recently visited storm survivors at Reunion Arena in Dallas, said he was "deeply moved" by the families displaced by the devastating storm and was critical of the preparations for Hurricane Katrina. "I think there have been a lot of failures at a lot of levels -- local, state and federal. There was more than enough warning over time about the dangers to New Orleans. Not enough was done. I don't think advantage was taken of the time that was available to us, and I just don't know why," Powell told ABC News' Barbara Walters in an exclusive interview airing Friday night at 10 p.m. on "20/20."
Powell doesn't think race was a factor in the slow delivery of relief to the hurricane victims as some have suggested. "I don't think it's racism, I think it's economic," he told Walters.
"When you look at those who weren't able to get out, it should have been a blinding flash of the obvious to everybody that when you order a mandatory evacuation, you can't expect everybody to evacuate on their own. These are people who don't have credit cards; only one in 10 families at that economic level in New Orleans have a car. So it wasn't a racial thing -- but poverty disproportionately affects African-Americans in this country. And it happened because they were poor," he said.
Making False Case for War Still 'Painful' When Powell left the Bush administration in January 2005, he was widely seen as having been at odds with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney over foreign policy choices.
It was Powell who told the United Nations and the world that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and posed an imminent threat. He told Walters that he feels "terrible" about the claims he made in that now-infamous address -- assertions that later proved to be false.
When asked if he feels it has tarnished his reputation, he said, "Of course it will. It's a blot. I'm the one who presented it on behalf of the United States to the world, and [it] will always be a part of my record. It was painful. It's painful now."
He doesn't blame former CIA Director George Tenet for the misleading information he says he pored over for days before delivering his speech; he faults the intelligence system.
"George Tenet did not sit there for five days with me misleading me. He believed what he was giving to me was accurate. … The intelligence system did not work well," he said.
Nonetheless, Powell said, some lower-level personnel in the intelligence community failed him and the country. "There were some people in the intelligence community who knew at that time that some of these sources were not good, and shouldn't be relied upon, and they didn't speak up. That devastated me," he said.
While Powell ultimately supported the president's decision to invade Iraq, he acknowledges that he was hesitant about waging war. "I'm always a reluctant warrior. And I don't resent the term, I admire the term, but when the president decided that it was not tolerable for this regime to remain in violation of all these U.N. resolutions, I'm right there with him with the use of force," he said.
Powell told Walters he is unfazed by criticism that he put loyalty to the president over leadership. "Loyalty is a trait that I value, and yes, I am loyal. And there are some who say, 'Well, you shouldn't have supported it. You should have resigned.' But I'm glad that Saddam Hussein is gone. I'm glad that that regime is gone," he said.
When Walters pressed Powell about that support, given the "mess" that the invasion has yielded, Powell said, "Who knew what the whole mess was going to be like?"
While he said he is glad that Saddam's regime was toppled, Powell acknowledged that he has seen no evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 terrorist attack. "I have never seen a connection. ... I can't think otherwise because I'd never seen evidence to suggest there was one," he told Walters.
Despite his differences with the administration, Powell said he never considered resigning in protest. "I'm not a quitter. And it wasn't a moral issue, or an act of a failure of an active leadership. It was knowing what we were heading into, and when the going got rough, you don't walk out," he told Walters.
Stay the Course in Iraq When asked what steps he would take in Iraq, Powell said, "I think there is little choice but to keep investing in the Iraqi armed forces, and to do everything we can to increase their size and their capability and their strength," he said.
Still, he questions some of the administration's post-invasion planning. "What we didn't do in the immediate aftermath of the war was to impose our will on the whole country, with enough troops of our own, with enough troops from coalition forces, or, by re-creating the Iraqi forces, armed forces, more quickly than we are doing now. And it may not have turned out to be such a mess if we had done some things differently. But it is now a difficult situation, but difficult situations are there to be worked on and solved, not walked away from, not cutting and running from."
Powell said he is sensitive to Cindy Sheehan and other mothers and family members whose loved ones have been wounded or killed in Iraq, but stressed that soldiers are risking their lives for a worthy purpose. When asked what he would say to Sheehan, who has grabbed media attention with her daily anti-war protests near Bush's Crawford, Texas, ranch, he told Walters he'd tell her what he'd tell any mother who suffered such a loss: "We regret the loss, but your loved one died in service to the nation and in service to the cause."
He acknowledged that the pain of losing a loved one would be heightened if a family feels the war is unjust. "If they don't feel the war is just, then they'll always feel that it is a deep personal loss and I sympathize with Ms. Sheehan. But this is not over. This conflict is not over, and the alternative to what I just described is essentially saying, 'Nevermind, we're leaving.' And I don't think that is an option for the United States."
Powell's wife of 43 years, Alma, also joined Walters for the exclusive interview. The couple share their thoughts on public service, their current life in the private sector, and whether a White House bid is in their future.
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He supports Affirmative Action. That's all I need to know.
The ME is a place where black is black and white is white. There are no shades of grey.
Viewed from 911 as a point of departure (as Richard Armitage once said; it is the beginning of history) the US had to strike at the heart of state sponsored terrorism. Distinction between Al Quaida and other terrorist groups cannot be relegated to an academic exercise no more. Terrorism (state sponsored terrorism specifically) cannot be left to the nuanced arguments that belied a romantic notion of 'freedom fighters like Che Guevara and so on. Keep in mind that OBL is looked upon by people of the muslim world as a modern Che defying the superpower and holding it at bay. To make a leap from Saddaam to OBL is not a flight of the imagination. No more than attacking specific strategic targets simultaneously using passenger jets as a weapon. The legitimacy that Saddaam enjoyed as head of state can confer plausible deniability when it came to accusations of being a state sponsor of terrorism. This legitimacy coupled with the strategic interests of conpeting nations of Europe (french and germany come to mind rather quickly), russia, and china may have forced the US to rely on the only option it had of removing Saddaam from power; the UN itself. the caussus belli was already established when countless UN resolutions went unheeded or dismissed outright. Yes Saddaam quacked like a duck and everybody concluded that indeed he was a duck.
So this Colin Powell!
Welcome to FR, Fred.
The information stated by Powell to the U.N. specifically was not a lie. He doesn't contend it was a lie. It was based on weak intelligence. That doesn't mean that it wasn't absolutely true, and you can't prove otherwise!!
I wish the Administration would have pounded this home more. Saddam was in violation of every UN resolution applied to his regime, and was in violation the 1991 ceasefire agreement that ended the shooting in Desert Storm. In this context, Iraqi Freedom was simply the final act of a war that had gone on for some 12 years.
And he'll turn it down. You heard it here first.
Clinton/Powell '08 BARF!
I've seen nothing to indicate that what Powell told the UN was false. It's just that once we finally deposed Saddam and his regime, the evidence had been cleared out -- some of it destroyed, some of it hidden, some of it moved (persistent rumors about Syria have yet to be addressed), and some of it (chems) dumped in the Euphrates. ABC, the rest of the media, and the left in general, have painted a picture that our government "lied" about Saddam's WMD capability and he was no threat. This is a myth. The left opposed going against Saddam even when every nation in the world was saying that Saddam had WMDs. The question that should be asked is, given what we know at the moment, would we rather have had a pantywaist in the Oval Office on 9/11 and the intervening years since, or George W. Bush. The American people were given that choice last November and choose Bush.
Powell shouldn't even be talking about Katrina, he isn't in Government he doesn't know what the response was or wasn't.
Exactly. Clinton/Powell ticket.
Powell is someone who doesn't get his hands dirty. He is above it all and doesn't get down and dirty and do the detail work.
Hm. Chemical weapons entail some pretty nasty stuff. If it had been dumped in the Euphrates, even 6 or 9 months prior to the invasion, would there still have been enough traces of it to be testable?
I always stated he was the weakest link in the chain.
Marines tested for and found the chem traces after we took Baghdad.
And he'll turn it down. You heard it here first.
You'll notice that I said "first choice for vice-presidential running mate", not "vice-presidential running mate".
(grin)
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Powell is not honorable. If he were, he'd keep his thoughts entirely to himself. I hope I never see him again in any public service role.
And I have gained respect for him.
And I have gained respect for him.
That does not say much for you!
Considering how dangerous it was to cross Hussein's Baath regime, I doubt it would be very likely that any information coming from people would be very accurate. Anyone trying to act as a spy against Hussein would be putting his life and the lives of everyone he knew in danger.
When he was young, he was a democrat!
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