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Chaos in Gaza as Arabs riot, loot, get shot, fire rockets, drown in sea
web.israelinsider.com ^ | September 12, 2005 | By Israel Insider staff and partners

Posted on 09/12/2005 12:53:02 PM PDT by Esther Ruth

Chaos in Gaza as Arabs riot, loot, get shot, fire rockets, drown in sea By Israel Insider staff and partners September 12, 2005

Palestinians flooded into empty Jewish settlements Monday and climbed ropes and clambered over walls into Egypt to join a chaotic celebration of the end of 38 years of Israeli military rule over the Gaza Strip.

Plans by Palestinian police to bar crowds from the settlements quickly disintegrated. Militant groups hoisted flags, fired wildly into the air and set abandoned synagogues ablaze. Further marring the day, Egyptian border guards shot and killed a Palestinian along the Gaza-Egypt border, and five Palestinians drowned off the Gaza coast, hospital officials said.

The unrest illustrated the weakness of Palestinian security forces and underscored concerns about their ability to control growing chaos in Gaza. The Israeli pullout is widely seen as a test for Palestinian aspirations of statehood.

Among those crossing the Egyptian border were purported members of the radical Islamic group, Hamas, who waved the group's green flag on Egyptian territory, raising immediate concern over Egypt's ability to meet Israeli demands to prevent militants from crossing the border. It was unclear whether weapons were imported at the time.

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Egyptian security officials said they allowed the crossings to take place as a "humanitarian" gesture to families who had been separated for years. The officials also suggested the free, unchecked crossings would be short-lived as Egypt deploys 750 heavily armed troops to secure its border with Gaza.

Before nightfall, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas arrived at the crossing and raised a symbolic Palestinian flag.

Israeli soldiers long guarded the high walls splitting Rafah against cross-border infiltrators smuggling weapons and other contraband from Egypt into the volatile Palestinian territory.

Within hours of the Israeli withdrawal, hooded Palestinian militants toting guns stood atop the Palestinian wall as grinning Gazans climbed over using ropes to meet relatives long stranded on the Egyptian side. Egyptian security forces stood by as hundreds of Egyptians and Palestinians helped people climb over and join the spontaneous celebrations held under a scorching sun.

At one stage, a group of people strutted and chanted around a large Hamas flag on the Egyptian side. But the dance came to a brief, sudden halt after a celebratory burst of gunfire on the Palestinian side.

The last column of Israeli tanks rumbled out of Gaza just before sunrise. Troops locked a metal gate and hoisted their flag on the Israeli side of the border.

"The mission has been completed, and an era has ended," said Israel's Gaza commander, Brig. Gen. Aviv Kochavi, the last soldier to leave the strip.

As soldiers poured out of Gaza throughout the night, jubilant Palestinians rushed into the abandoned settlements, turning the night sky orange as fires blazed. Women shrieked in joy, teens set off fireworks and crowds chanted "God is great."

Abbas told his people that there is still a "long road" to statehood, but said the day was one for joy.

"Today our people have the right to celebrate their freedom, their dignity. This place was a taboo for us for the past 38 years and now we are standing here," Abbas said during a tour of the Elei Sinai settlement in northern Gaza.

By midday, the situation had calmed as feelings of newfound freedom began to sink in. Many people toured the empty settlements. Roads were clogged with motorists headed to the beach, largely off limits to Palestinians during Israeli rule, while other people simply paused to take in the new reality.

"Since last night, I have been in the street, for no reason, just to breathe the air of freedom," said Samir Khader, a farmer in northern Gaza. "I don't know what the future will bring, but at least, I can come in and out of my house at any time."

Ismail Haniyeh, a Hamas leader in Gaza, said the group "will support any step that will produce something for our people" but made clear that it has no plans to disarm as long as Israel controls the West Bank and Jerusalem.

"We should protect the resistance option and the resistance weapons," he said.

Palestinian authorities had promised an orderly transition after the pullout, but the calls for calm were ignored. Police stood by helplessly early Monday as gunmen raised flags of militant groups in the abandoned settlements and crowds smashed what was left in the ruins or walked off with doors, window frames, toilets and scrap metals.

After rushing into the settlements, Palestinians set fire to empty synagogues in the Morag, Kfar Darom and Netzarim settlements, as well as a Jewish seminary in Neve Dekalim. Later, a Palestinian bulldozer began knocking down the walls of the Netzarim synagogue.

"They (Israelis) destroyed our homes and our mosques. Today it is our turn to destroy theirs," said a man in Neve Dekalim who gave his name only as Abu Ahmed.

Mofaz: "Zero tolerance" -- well, maybe not zero The IDF will react to any Palestinian terrorist activity with "zero tolerance," Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said Monday, after IDF troops withdrew from Gaza. Mofaz said the army would not allow Palestinians to fire rockets at Israeli towns.

As the troops were leaving, Palestinians fired a Kassam rocket at the Negev town of Sderot. The rocket caused no damage nor injuries, but landed only 1000 feet from the "tent city" housing scores of Jewish expellees.

Yaniv Levi, former secretary of the northern Gaza community of Alei Sinai, said that he expected the State of Israel to respond by demolishing the area from which the rockets were fired. ?The Palestinians need to know that they will bring harm to their own property, infrastructure and homes -- not just a house here and a house there -- to utterly demolish. The moment the IDF does this, it will stop. They will stop firing the rockets.?

The formerly quiet Negev community of Netiv HaAsarah found itself a border town Monday morning, with dozens of Palestinians approaching the town and chanting slogans. The town remains vulnerable to rocket and rifle fire. Gil Nir, the chairman of the town?s security committee told Arutz Sheva that promises that residents would be protected did not materialize. He said that reinforcement of the roofs of public buildings and kindergartens has not been carried out and that a wall meant to protect them from gunfire from Gaza has not been completed. "They were in such a hurry to get the soldiers out that they ended up abandoning us civilians," he said.

In the afternoon, a second rocket apparently hit Kibbutz Yad Mordechai, north of Gaza. No injuries were reported.

In response, Shas Chairman Eli Yishai said, "He who thought and deluded himself that the Disengagement would lead to a reduction in terror has been proven wrong."

Yishai demanded that the Knesset appoint a special emergency teams to deal with the protection of the city of Ashkelon from Kassam rocket fire: "We've barely closed Gush Katif's gates and the rockets are already landing in Yad Mordechai," just a few miles from the coastal city.

Swimming in troubled waters Israel removed some 8,500 Gaza settlers from their homes in 21 settlements last month, and razed homes and most buildings in the communities. However, the Israeli Cabinet decided at the last minute Sunday to leave 19 synagogue buildings intact, drawing criticism from the United States that the decision put the Palestinians in an awkward position.

Israel's foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, called the burning of the synagogues "a barbaric act."

At mid-afternoon, signs of chaos remained. Hundreds of cars, motorcycles and donkey carts -- piled with scrap metal and other items looted from the settlements -- clogged Gaza's main roads. Palestinian militants posed to take pictures at a former Israeli checkpoint, and policemen unsuccessfully tried to clear away traffic.

Near the Rafiah Yam settlement near Rafah, dozens of giddy teenage boys, including 15-year-old Mahmoud Barbakh, went to the beach for what they said was the first time ever. They rolled up their jeans and jumped into the water fully clothed. One used a refrigerator door as a makeshift surfboard.

"It's the sweetest thing in the whole world," said Barbakh.

At least five Palestinians drowned on the Gaza coast during the day.

The AP contributed to this report

1 posted on 09/12/2005 12:53:03 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: SJackson

The Roadmap to insanity and madness...


2 posted on 09/12/2005 12:54:55 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: Esther Ruth

Perhaps Sharon has given them the rope needed to hang themselves.


3 posted on 09/12/2005 12:54:58 PM PDT by conservativebabe (September 11, 2001 - NEVER FORGET)
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To: Alouette

ping


4 posted on 09/12/2005 12:56:34 PM PDT by rocksblues (I support the war on terror)
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To: Esther Ruth

"However, the Israeli Cabinet decided at the last minute Sunday to leave 19 synagogue buildings intact, drawing criticism from the United States that the decision put the Palestinians in an awkward position."

The awkward position of burning their holy sites? Or is only Holy if it's the Koran or a Mosque?


5 posted on 09/12/2005 12:56:40 PM PDT by jw777
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To: Esther Ruth
The real question is whether all this will be swept under the rug and ignored. Will Condi continue to press Israel into providing a Palestinian corridor between the West Bank and Gaza Strip, or will it finally clue in to the administration that the Pallies have a lot of work ahead of them if they want to prove that they're worthy of further concessions toward statehood?
6 posted on 09/12/2005 12:57:59 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Esther Ruth

These crazies will be eating each other before nightfall.


7 posted on 09/12/2005 12:58:45 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Esther Ruth

http://www.jnewswire.com/library/article.php?articleid=723

Monday, September 12, 2005 21:35 IST
JNW HEADLINE NEWS

Analysis: Abbas buys time for terror
By Ryan Jones

September 12th, 2005

PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas Monday cleverly sought to buy a reprieve from what was sure to be stiff international pressure and a harsh Israeli military response following any major attack by Gaza-based terrorists on Israelis in the coming months.

“Give me until the end of the year and I will be able to control the chaos in Gaza,” Abbas told the Italian daily Corriere della Sera.

All too often that “chaos” is the source of unchecked artillery attacks on Israelis living in the western Negev region.

Following the completion of its “disengagement” from Gaza, Israel Monday repeatedly vowed to unleash unprecedented military force against the strip should rocket and mortar attacks persist – and they certainly will.

Abbas' well-timed statement was aimed at blunting that threat.

Because of that statement, Washington will likely continue to insist that Abbas is trying and is committed to making peace, this despite the fact that he never acts on his promises. If the past is anything to go by, Israel will meanwhile hold itself in check, not wanting to upset its American ally's peace efforts with heavy-handed military action.

The predicted result, which is backed by a decade of precedence, is that Israel will hit Gaza hard if any Israelis are actually killed in artillery strikes on the western Negev, but that attacks without casualties will elicit no or weak responses.

This will have the effect of further eroding Israel's deterrent factor in the eyes of the Palestinian Arabs, almost guaranteeing the deaths of at least some Negev residents in the coming months.

What everyone should have been paying attention to was Abbas' reiteration to the same Italian paper that he has no intention of disarming those killers most dedicated to Israel's demise.

“There is no point at the moment, it would be a useless step that would be destined to start a civil war,” said the PLO chief, who has never spared even a glancing thought for Jewish life.


8 posted on 09/12/2005 12:58:53 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: Esther Ruth
Chaos in Gaza as Arabs riot, loot, get shot, fire rockets, drown in sea

Sounds like some parties I used to go to...

9 posted on 09/12/2005 12:59:15 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Esther Ruth
The unrest illustrated the weakness of Palestinian security forces and underscored concerns about their ability to control growing chaos in Gaza. The Israeli pullout is widely seen as a test for Palestinian aspirations of statehood.

I predict that in five years the area will look even worse than it does today. If the Palestinians created a state, they'd have to start taking responsibility for themselves and their condition. I see no evidence that they're interested in that.

10 posted on 09/12/2005 1:00:00 PM PDT by American Quilter
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To: 2banana
Chaos in Gaza as Arabs riot, loot, get shot, fire rockets, drown in sea

DANGIT - That was going to be my line!
11 posted on 09/12/2005 1:00:22 PM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: Esther Ruth
If the Pallies had any sense they would have turned the synagogues into rec centers. Some schools of rabbinic thought hold that without the presence of a Torah (and attendant trappings) the temple reverts to being a mere building.
12 posted on 09/12/2005 1:01:12 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Esther Ruth

"They (Israelis) destroyed our homes and our mosques. Today it is our turn to destroy theirs," said a man in Neve Dekalim who gave his name only as Abu Ahmed."

- WTF? This guy has snakes in his head.


13 posted on 09/12/2005 1:01:30 PM PDT by Frenetic
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To: FormerACLUmember

Acting like Detroit basketball fans after a winning season.


14 posted on 09/12/2005 1:01:44 PM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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To: Esther Ruth
PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas Monday cleverly sought to buy a reprieve from what was sure to be stiff international pressure and a harsh Israeli military response following any major attack by Gaza-based terrorists on Israelis in the coming months.

“Give me until the end of the year and I will be able to control the chaos in Gaza,” Abbas told the Italian daily Corriere della Sera.

So in other words the Israelis are supposed to just sit and let themselves be attacked, on his word that eventually he'll get his act together?

15 posted on 09/12/2005 1:01:57 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Esther Ruth

>>>As the troops were leaving, Palestinians fired a Kassam rocket at the Negev town of Sderot. The rocket caused no damage nor injuries, but landed only 1000 feet from the "tent city" housing scores of Jewish expellees. >>>

Yes, this is going well.


16 posted on 09/12/2005 1:02:02 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: Esther Ruth

The mentality of out of control teenage punks.

Not sure why they're celebrating, they are only doing this because the Israelis are letting them. Gotta admire the courage of idiots who burn abondoned synogogues.../sarcasm.


17 posted on 09/12/2005 1:02:33 PM PDT by wvobiwan (Liberal Slogan: "News maganizes don't kill people, Muslims do." - Ann Coulter)
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To: Salvey

LOL


18 posted on 09/12/2005 1:03:21 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Esther Ruth

someone correct me if i am wrong here, but isn't this their land now? what sense does it make to destroy your own property?...barbarians


19 posted on 09/12/2005 1:04:18 PM PDT by phil112
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To: aculeus; general_re; Thinkin' Gal; hellinahandcart; Tijeras_Slim; Petronski; Constitution Day; ...
Arabs riot, loot, get shot, fire rockets, drown in sea

Special prize for anyone doing all five.

20 posted on 09/12/2005 1:05:19 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Esther Ruth

Sounds like New Orleans.


21 posted on 09/12/2005 1:07:47 PM PDT by Serb5150 (www.illmitch.com)
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To: inquest
"The real question....Will Condi continue to press Israel into providing a Palestinian corridor between the West Bank and Gaza Strip, or will it finally clue in to the administration that the Pallies have a lot of work ahead of them if they want to prove that they're worthy of further concessions toward statehood?"

Oh yea, sure, they are all just confused. Any day now they'll all just throw this Roadmap away and give the land back to the Rightful Owners.
22 posted on 09/12/2005 1:07:48 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: 2banana

All that, and they didn't even need a hurricane??


23 posted on 09/12/2005 1:07:48 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle
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To: American Quilter

The hamas lunatics are going to demand it be declared an islamic republic.


24 posted on 09/12/2005 1:08:27 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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25 posted on 09/12/2005 1:08:34 PM PDT by SJackson (“I worry that I've seen this movie before”, Rep. Mark Kirk on aid to palestinians.)
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To: Esther Ruth

Target rich environment.


26 posted on 09/12/2005 1:10:22 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Esther Ruth
The AP contributed to this report by frolicking in the surf with their comrades.
27 posted on 09/12/2005 1:10:25 PM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: Esther Ruth
Well, now that the palis have the Gaza Strip back, I guess they'll stop trying to kill all the Jews and drive them into the Sea.


/sarc
28 posted on 09/12/2005 1:11:10 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Proud member of the 21st century Christian Crusaders)
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To: Esther Ruth
riot, loot, get shot, fire rockets, drown in sea

Oops, for a sec I though I was on a Katrina thread...

29 posted on 09/12/2005 1:11:12 PM PDT by MRMEAN (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress;but I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: 2banana

It is a humdinger of a title. Has the sun set over there yet? They still have a few more hours.


30 posted on 09/12/2005 1:11:45 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: Esther Ruth

Nothing to see but raving lunatics folks...move along. END SARCASM! The religion and culture of peace strike again.


31 posted on 09/12/2005 1:11:59 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: inquest
So in other words the Israelis are supposed to just sit and let themselves be attacked, on his word that eventually he'll get his act together?

This has been the official position of the Palestinian (non)Authority for its entire existence. Replace "Abbas" with "Arafat" and you will notice the same quotes.

Why would anything change now?

32 posted on 09/12/2005 1:12:03 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (All I want for tomorrow is to make it better than today!)
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To: Esther Ruth
"Egyptian security officials said they allowed the crossings to take place as a "humanitarian" gesture to families who had been separated for years."

Egyptian relatives? Or are (were) the border crossers Egyptians themselves, just one of the many self-exiled Arab throngs from the surrounding Muzzi countries who decided to call themselves "Palestinian" since about 1973? (They thought they were getting first dibs on that prime Israeli real estate, after the big Arab victory,LOL)Only now their FAllahlands don't want em' back.
33 posted on 09/12/2005 1:14:02 PM PDT by zygoat
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To: phil112

>>>someone correct me if i am wrong here, but isn't this their land now? what sense does it make to destroy your own property?...barbarians>>>

Key word there is 'sense'. Of course they will destroy everything that is built up and then look around for the world and cry "But we have nothing to build our home from. You don't expect me to live in a home that a filthy jew pig built do you? We need the America to send us money to build new houses." and of course be completely confused when the rest of the world looks at him like he has rocks in his head.

Oh wait, this already happened.


34 posted on 09/12/2005 1:14:14 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: Esther Ruth
"Today our people have the right to celebrate their freedom, their dignity."

To me it sounds like their team just won the Rose Bowl what with all the fires and gunshots.

35 posted on 09/12/2005 1:16:13 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: jw777
All residential housing should have been left intact to show the Pallies how humans live, not what Philistines have done to themselves.

We are watching a rabid culture devolve. Without other cultures' technologies provided hem, Pallies have a stone age environment by their own hands.

The Palli-perps shall hide among women and children and IDF shall righteously if sadly smite them all.

36 posted on 09/12/2005 1:17:09 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: conservativebabe

Perhaps Sharon has given them the rope needed to hang themselves.
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I hope there is that twist to it. The sooner the Arabs are gone, the sooner real peace can come to that region.


37 posted on 09/12/2005 1:17:09 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Esther Ruth
Militant groups hoisted flags, fired wildly into the air.....

I notice muslims enjoy doing this from time to time...Is this some sort of religious procedure?

38 posted on 09/12/2005 1:17:33 PM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: Esther Ruth; SJackson; Alouette; All

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39 posted on 09/12/2005 1:22:29 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli")
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To: Salvey
Acting like Detroit basketball fans after a winning season.

Or New Orleans urban youth after a flood ...

40 posted on 09/12/2005 1:22:37 PM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Esther Ruth
One used a refrigerator door as a makeshift surfboard.

The beach will be a trashcan within a week.

41 posted on 09/12/2005 1:25:18 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Esther Ruth
Ismail Haniyeh, a Hamas leader in Gaza, said the group "will support any step that will produce something for our people" but made clear that it has no plans to disarm as long as Israel controls the West Bank and Jerusalem exists in any form whatsoever.

There, that's better.

42 posted on 09/12/2005 1:26:10 PM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: Esther Ruth

I was listening to Isreal internet radio, they quoted a liberal "rabbi" who was asked what he thought would become of the synagogues in Gaza. This sick minded idiot said something to the effect of, "I would hope that they would used them to open a interfaith dialogue"…this just in, he was wrong, they burned them to the ground.


43 posted on 09/12/2005 1:26:42 PM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: inquest

It seems to me that the terrorists in Gaza no longer have anybody they can attack effectively. The Israelis, civilians and military, are practically out of reach. The terrorists have some inaccurate rockets, but thats it. Counterbattery fire should suffice.


44 posted on 09/12/2005 1:28:55 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: SevenDaysInMay

animals will be animals. Benjamin Netanyahu would never have let this happen.


45 posted on 09/12/2005 1:33:04 PM PDT by jw777
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To: anonymoussierra
Amen, G-d is not mocked, as we sow, we shall reap...This boy's beautiful face is on my computer desktop, I think of them all constantly and pray for them.
46 posted on 09/12/2005 1:35:46 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: Esther Ruth
Who do the Palestinians think they are? Residents of New Orleans? What is this, the Big Middleastern Easy? More evidence that the Palestinians are an uncivilized mob, by and large.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Another Ignorant Actor Spouts Off"

48 posted on 09/12/2005 1:41:48 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (The difference between a Louisiana Democrat and a crawfish is the crawfish tastes good.)
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To: Esther Ruth

Wild donkeys.


49 posted on 09/12/2005 1:48:54 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: Esther Ruth
>>>>Militant groups hoisted flags, fired wildly into the air and set abandoned synagogues ablaze.

If its abandoned, its no longer a synagogue. Just an empty building. The Pali's are such a foolish people.

50 posted on 09/12/2005 1:50:41 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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