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Lesson On Gun Safety Pays Off In Spades
KOMOtv.com ^ | Sep 14, 2005 | April Zepeda

Posted on 09/14/2005 2:34:24 PM PDT by 2Am4Sure

MACHIAS - A crowded playground and a loaded gun -- it could have been a deadly recipe.

There were 127 kids out on the playground, when 9-year-old Khoa Nguyen and 8-year-old Grayson Pope noticed a gun sitting in the wood chips by the swing set.

Suddenly, all those important lessons about guns we hope our kids pay attention to, paid off.

"Not to touch them and when you see one, go tell an adult and don't pick it up," recited Grayson.

What the two students from Machias Elementary didn't know yet -- they had found a 9mm handgun, loaded and missing the safety mechanism.

"It was actually pretty frightening. I told the teachers because I was afraid that if I didn't - the other class of second and third graders would come out and play with it," said Khoa.

One boy stood guard, the other ran and got a teacher who called 911.

"To see a real metal gun out there...the playground was jammed with kids," said teacher Terese Evans. "And then to see the kindergarteners coming right out for recess, I was thinking, 'Oh my goodness... what if those boys hadn't reported it?' Who knows what could have happened?"

The school called the boys' parents to let them how the children turned a dangerous situation into a positive ending.

"It was just overwhelming when the principal called," said Grayson's mother Alison. "She said, 'We had an event at school, no one is hurt, but your son found a gun.' I had to sit down."

Police will try and track down how the gun got on the playground, but more importantly, they credit and Khoa and Grayson for making sure it got off the playground.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bradybunch
Let's hear it for Eddie Eagle
1 posted on 09/14/2005 2:34:25 PM PDT by 2Am4Sure
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To: 2Am4Sure
One boy stood guard, the other ran and got a teacher who called 911.

The only thing that would have made this a better story would have been having a teacher that was enough of an adult to go out and get the gun, safely unload it, and secure it until the authorities arrived instead of calling 911 and standing around in dreadful fear of a couple of pounds of metal that can be easily controlled by someone who knows what he/she is doing.

2 posted on 09/14/2005 2:38:20 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: 2Am4Sure

I see no mention of the NRA or the Eddie the Eagle program
in this article.


3 posted on 09/14/2005 2:38:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 2Am4Sure
Heroes. Now only if we can get our congress to act as responsible.
4 posted on 09/14/2005 2:38:56 PM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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To: 2Am4Sure

Way to GO boys!!!!


5 posted on 09/14/2005 2:40:44 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: 2Am4Sure
"9mm handgun, loaded and missing the safety mechanism" in a playground.

VERY odd. Almost as if . . . .

6 posted on 09/14/2005 2:41:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: VRWCmember

"would have been having a teacher that was enough of an adult to go out and get the gun"

I'm assuming the reason they didn't is they didn't want to contaminate any fingerprints that may have been on the gun when somebody dropped it.


7 posted on 09/14/2005 2:42:04 PM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: VRWCmember

In defense of the teacher, if you find a weapon under circumstances such as this it might have been used in a crime. Calling 911 rather than picking up the gun and adding to the fingerprints on it might be a better thing to do.


8 posted on 09/14/2005 2:42:20 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: 2Am4Sure
Lesson On Gun Safety Pays Off In Spades

Don't mean to sound Niggardly, but I think that's racist!

9 posted on 09/14/2005 2:42:43 PM PDT by Clemenza (What's Puzzling You is Just the Nature of My Game)
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To: BenLurkin
Yeah. Either the reporter mistook the situation or somebody wanted something to happen.
10 posted on 09/14/2005 2:42:55 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: VRWCmember
With all due respect (and I'm quite possibly a bigger gun-nut than you), I wouldn't have touched it either.

I would assume that the gun had been used by a criminal, and dumped there. I wouldn't want my fingerprints on it and I wouldn't want to disturb any fingerprints (or other forensic evidence) which might be on or around it.

11 posted on 09/14/2005 2:44:05 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: 2Am4Sure

12 posted on 09/14/2005 2:44:19 PM PDT by DocRock (Osama said, "We love death, the U.S. loves life, that is the main difference between us.")
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To: VRWCmember

You'd think, but any teacher who did that would be instantly fired and could be charged with a felony. The federal law that criminalized the possession of firearms on school grounds made no exemptions for people who simply found one and tried to move it.

Besides, the teacher probably did the right thing anyway. If the gun was evidence in a crime, picking it up might have smudged fingerprints or damaged its value in a court case. At the very least, it would have screwed up the chain of custody enough so that any reputable defense attorney could have had it tossed as evidence.

Generally speaking, if you find a gun under suspicious circumstances, you're better off not touching it if you don't have to.


13 posted on 09/14/2005 2:44:30 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: VRWCmember

If you find a gun don't touch it. Call 9-11.


14 posted on 09/14/2005 2:54:14 PM PDT by I see my hands (Until this civil war heats up.. Have a nice day.)
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To: VRWCmember
The only thing that would have made this a better story would have been having a teacher that was enough of an adult to go out and get the gun, safely unload it, and secure it until the authorities arrived instead of calling 911 and standing around in dreadful fear of a couple of pounds of metal that can be easily controlled by someone who knows what he/she is doing.

Compromising any fingerprints, DNA or other forensic evidence that might have been on it.

SO9

15 posted on 09/14/2005 2:58:07 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Those Poor Poor Rubber Cows)
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To: tet68
I see no mention of the NRA or the Eddie the Eagle program in this article.

Hey, it's Seattle. The reporter would have had convulsions and died if she'd given any credit like that.
16 posted on 09/14/2005 3:03:09 PM PDT by 2Am4Sure
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To: I see my hands
If you find a gun don't touch it. Call 9-11.

Better yet, call me.

17 posted on 09/14/2005 3:06:22 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: Clemenza

I'm calling the mods on you you racist pig. How could you possibly use two such inflammatory words, especially the one that sounds so much like a racist word?

I'm done with FR. I can't associate with those such as you.

sarcasm unless you didn't notice.


18 posted on 09/14/2005 3:11:23 PM PDT by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: 2Am4Sure

"...they had found a 9mm handgun, loaded and missing the safety mechanism."

They should look for a badge and uniform of NO's "finest" (cough cough)nearby. It bound to be near there... covered with mud.


19 posted on 09/14/2005 3:13:17 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: VRWCmember

A potential problem is that it probably was used in a crime, and that handling it could contaminate it as evidence. Except for the panicky reaction, I think they got it about right.


20 posted on 09/14/2005 3:14:37 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: BenLurkin

My first thought also. I hate to think that someone would stoop so low as to endanger kids for a political agenda, but the gun grabbers aren't about safety. They want a helpless society.


21 posted on 09/14/2005 3:40:51 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: CrazyIvan

bump


22 posted on 09/14/2005 3:41:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: VRWCmember
...having a teacher that was enough of an adult to go out and get the gun, safely unload it, and secure it until the authorities arrived instead of calling 911

I disagree. At least with the unloading part. Valuable forensic evidence could be destroyed by a teacher doing the obvious. Fingerprints on the firearm and on the shell casings come to mind...plus anything else in the vicinity of the weapon could be (or should have been) retrieved by the responding officers. Better to have the local constabulary respond and remove it.

23 posted on 09/14/2005 3:49:15 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!")
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To: 2Am4Sure
What the two students from Machias Elementary didn't know yet -- they had found a 9mm handgun, loaded and missing the safety mechanism.

What the hell does that mean? I'm guessing they probably found a Glock, which does not have a traditional 'on-off' safety.

Any other 9mm, 'missing' the safety mechanism would probably be an inert hunk.

More excellence in journalism.

24 posted on 09/14/2005 3:55:11 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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"9mm handgun, loaded and missing the safety mechanism"

Loaded? Okay. Does that mean full magazine and one in the chamber or just a full mag? Missing the safety mechanism? This raises new questions. Is is a Sig Sauer with no external safety except for the hammer drop? Speaking of the hammer is it cocked and locked? Safety missing? Missing or not engaged? Is it a Glock or an H&KP7 For that matter is it a 9mm revolver? No safety there.

Anyway, as I learned while becoming a certified instructor, the only real safety is the operator. All mechanical devices CAN fail.

25 posted on 09/14/2005 6:15:12 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: 2Am4Sure

Except one of the boys didn't leave it, he stayed to keep others away. Which made more sense given the situation. I wonder who tossed it into the playground.


26 posted on 09/14/2005 6:20:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: RedMonqey
"...they had found a 9mm handgun, loaded and missing the safety mechanism."

Actually, I'm rather more intrigued by how a 9mm could be "missing" a safety mechanism. Knowing how dumb reporters are, did some officer tell him the safety was "off" and he assumed the "missing"? Or was the gun modified to fire without one? Dunno how that might be done, guess it depends on the gun ...

27 posted on 09/14/2005 9:02:08 PM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: Right Winged American

race and other competition guns often have safeties removed or disabled. most commonly its the grip safety on a 1911.
of course since we're talking about a teacher, it's probably a liberal, and the liberal idea of a "safety mechanism" is a trigger lock.


28 posted on 09/15/2005 6:20:01 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: VRWCmember
The only thing that would have made this a better story would have been having a teacher that was enough of an adult to go out and get the gun, safely unload it, and secure it

I wouldn't have touched it. Don't want my dna on it, and what if it's defective? I'd leave it to the p'fessionals.

29 posted on 09/19/2005 1:07:47 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (You keep lyin' when you oughta be truthin')
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To: VoiceOfBruck

Lot's of people made similar comments correcting me. I guess I would change my original statment to include "taking care not to contaminate the evidence by getting fingerprints on it or smudging prints that might already be on it". My point was that it appeared the teacher was as afraid of the gun as the children rightly were. In my opinion, allowing the gun to sit there, even with the children and the teacher standing guard still meant the situation was still potentially volatile until the police arrived.


30 posted on 09/19/2005 1:28:34 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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