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The instructor needs to be fired. He should probably face criminal charges as well.
1 posted on 09/14/2005 9:54:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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These people need their guns taken away for our safety.


2 posted on 09/14/2005 9:56:32 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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Another cops shoots an innocent victim.

Nothing to see here, folks!

3 posted on 09/14/2005 9:57:27 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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I live near this area and have many friends on the Kennesaw City PD (where the victim was from) and on the Cobb County PD (where the instructer was from).

This "instructor" was widely known as "not the sharpest knife in the drawer", which was why he was "instructing" in the first place.

A tragedy, to be sure, but there is NO EXCUSE for incompetents to be "teaching" people. This also applys to our gooberment skrewel systems.


4 posted on 09/14/2005 10:01:46 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Agreed. There is NO excuse for not clearing a weapon before using it in training.

This story is unbelievable. The instructor needs to be charged.


6 posted on 09/14/2005 10:03:37 PM PDT by KJC1
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I've always told my wife, don't piss me off when I have a gun in my hand. lol

Situation is not funny but I thought humor was needed at this particular moment.
11 posted on 09/14/2005 10:09:41 PM PDT by antiunion person (President Bush caused the hurricane in order to harm the blacks in the south.)
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"The instructor needs to be fired. He should probably face criminal charges as well."
Depends. If the trainees were taught to duck under incoming fire and this particular one was too slow...
24 posted on 09/14/2005 10:20:13 PM PDT by GSlob
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It's sad but accidents do happen, an instructor should know better.

I stopped going to indoor shooting ranges years ago when I noticed all the bullet holes in the ceiling, You never know who's in the lane next to you.


35 posted on 09/14/2005 10:32:50 PM PDT by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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Prayers for Her Family.

Why does this remind me of the cop with the glock in the school saying that he's the only one in the room qualified to SHOOT HIMSELF!


45 posted on 09/14/2005 10:48:33 PM PDT by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking...)
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just damn


51 posted on 09/14/2005 11:06:38 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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Note that Kennesaw is the town that passed an ordinance requiring heads of households to be armed, IIRC. It seems counterintuitive and somewhat ironic that this unfortunate accident should happen in that particular town.


60 posted on 09/14/2005 11:33:32 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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A trainee at a Cobb County police academy was killed Tuesday when the instructor's gun accidentally went off during the first day of firearms training, authorities said.
The woman, a new recruit with the Kennesaw police department, was identified today as Tara Drummond, 23. She was among 30 rookie officers in the seventh week of a 10-week program at the North Central Georgia Law Enforcement Academy in Austell.

They should be wearing their vests beginning in week six.

68 posted on 09/15/2005 12:20:45 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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Hard to believe. This thread is a tough read.

It's important that negligence like this is rewarded with *hard time* to keep people even more highly motivated to avoid accidently killing co-workers.

73 posted on 09/15/2005 3:28:14 AM PDT by XpandTheEkonomy
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Brings back my very first memory of a gun. I was 4 years old when my dad took me hunting. I was, as a young child, fascinated by the "gun." My dad did two things that stuck in my memory to this day. One, he blew apart a sapling pine with one shot from a 12 gauge, and then compared its diamater to my arm (it was bigger than my arm). He said "son, a gun will blow YOU apart just like this. ALWAYS respect them, ALWAYS remember they will kill you. They are NEVER to play with, NEVER to do anything with but USE in a VERY careful manner. You can't say "I'm sorry" and undo the damage." Two, we happened on a cottonmouth moccasin by a stream on the way back to the car. If you know that snake, you know it can be more aggressive than many. He told me to stand behind him, and suddenly half the snake just wasn't there. He used that to hammer home again the destructive power of firearms, why they were valuable as tools but terribly dangerous.

He would have beaten my a## if I had ever engaged in the kind of horseplay with guns I saw some of my drunk buddies do as a teen, but he didn't need to. The craziest thing I ever did with a gun was shoot hornet's nests with them, and we were sober even then. His lessons stuck. Guns are just plain dangerous. I don't care HOW familiar you are as an "instructor." It takes once to kill or maim someone. You may end someone else's life and ruin what is left of yours.

If I may, a few rules:
1) there is no such thing as an "unloaded" gun
2) if you point it, it should only be with the purpose of discharging it (in the case that you are pointing it at a person, the only thing that should change this is if you no longer see their face, but their back)
3) if you display it in a hostile manner it should be for the purpose if withdrawing it, pointing it, and discharging it if the situation continues
4) always assume the other person with a weapon will do the most stupid thing imaginable

Just a final note for anyone still bored enough to be reading this. A good friend and a VERY safe gun user almost killed me a month ago at the range. I have shot with him for some time and I felt VERY comfortable with his rituals of safety (which mirror mine). He had a .40 SW with VERY light action (new to him). He shot the weapon once, and the recoil snapped the pistol to almost straight up in the air. He did not realize how feather light the action was and accidentally discharged another round while the pistol was pointed up. The round hit a steel girder, and ricocheted past my head (I felt the air before I heard the whizz). I flinched, and my friend thought he had shot me. This guy is a safety fanatic (he was horrified at his own actions), and if it can happen to HIM, it could happen to anyone. I wish every gun owner and user could have had my dad as someone to introduce them to firearms.

81 posted on 09/15/2005 4:38:15 AM PDT by chronic_loser
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Promote the man and give him more responsibility.


85 posted on 09/15/2005 4:54:13 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: PAR35; Squantos

Why was it, when we were training twenty something years ago, we always had to use those deactivated red-handled guns. Think it might have been for safety reasons?


88 posted on 09/15/2005 7:04:38 AM PDT by TEXASPROUD
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If a "civilian" shot someone they might be charged with negligent homicide. I wonder is this blue line member will be charged?


90 posted on 09/15/2005 7:14:36 AM PDT by CodeToad
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The victim is an innocent person. She was there for training as a peace officer. It isn't her responsibility to ensure her instructors know what they are doing.


91 posted on 09/15/2005 7:15:48 AM PDT by CodeToad
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