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Russia Loses a Jet to NATO (pictures)
Kommersant ^ | Sep. 16, 2005 | Vladimir Vodo, Ivan Safronov

Posted on 09/16/2005 10:52:40 AM PDT by lizol

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1 posted on 09/16/2005 10:52:42 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

They broke that one.


2 posted on 09/16/2005 10:54:33 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: lizol

Can't make a jet, can't make a submarine (although they do make one hell of a fishing cable), can't even make a car.  Methinks our coldwar enemy was not all we thought at the time.

  Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

3 posted on 09/16/2005 10:55:57 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: lizol

"After reporting his difficulties, Troyanov flew in circles to use up fuel and then parachuted from the craft."


Good man.


4 posted on 09/16/2005 10:58:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: lizol

Holy F-15's Batman, where did that design come from? NATO intercept failure not a good thing. Germany still flying the F-4 Phantoms?


5 posted on 09/16/2005 10:58:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: Owl_Eagle
Can't make a jet ..

Do you say the same thing when our jets crash? Some of our jets have crashed you know. We've also lost submarines and the Corvair was a made-in-Detroit product.

6 posted on 09/16/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Owl_Eagle

All they had to make was some nukes and a way to deliver them. I believe based on their ability to put men in space that they had that capability. What has happened to the maintainance regime lately is another story.


7 posted on 09/16/2005 11:01:56 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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NATO intercept failure not a good thing. Germany still flying the F-4 Phantoms?

Hey wait a min! I flew in the back seat of a Phantom.

I loved that bird. :-)

8 posted on 09/16/2005 11:02:00 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Oh, the Russians make really good fighters. The SU-27 is a top of the line fighter.


9 posted on 09/16/2005 11:03:07 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Did they ever figure out where the cable came from that stopped the sub? I was thinking it might have been a WWII anti-submarine net...........


10 posted on 09/16/2005 11:03:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (BLAME = Democrat .......BALM = Republican.........BLAM = 1 DEAD LOOTER............)
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To: lizol

Apparently he had a cell phone even if his regular communication system went out. It's hard to believe that not only he was lost but that his air force lost him. Surely they could have given him some instructions about which way to fly, other than down. Sounds as if more than his navigation system failed.


11 posted on 09/16/2005 11:03:17 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: RadioAstronomer

The gerries still like it for fast intercept. They like EuroFighter, too but pilots I talked with say they would keep the F4 for the right missions.


12 posted on 09/16/2005 11:06:08 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: GarySpFc
The SU-27 is a top of the line fighter.

Not really, 2nd shelf now... Don't forget about the F-22

13 posted on 09/16/2005 11:09:04 AM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: NonValueAdded
The commies borrowed heavily from the Iranian F-14s. Thank you Jimmy Carter and yes, the Luftwaffe is still flying F-4s.


14 posted on 09/16/2005 11:10:30 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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German F-4Phantom fighters had been launched from the airbase in Zokniai.

Who needs the Eurofighter!

15 posted on 09/16/2005 11:13:36 AM PDT by Tribune7
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The Russian Defense Ministry claims that the pilot crossed the border because of a malfunction in his navigation equipment, which was also the cause of the crash.

Scuze me, but you might stray off course due to navigation failure but you would not CRASH due to nav problems unless you ran into the side of the mountain (which the pictures clearly show is not the case).

Of course the Nav equipment could have caused the crash if it triggered the self-destruct mechanism because it determined the pilot was defecting. The Russians wouldn't do that would they....? Naw...

me:/reaches for tinfoil hat.

16 posted on 09/16/2005 11:15:23 AM PDT by konaice
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To: NonValueAdded
The strangest thing to me is the picture of the camo'd soldier with the shotgun. That's a case of U.S. issue MREs sitting on the ground next to him.

Since when did the U.S. start supplying rations to the Lithuanian army?

17 posted on 09/16/2005 11:16:59 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: GarySpFc

I have an uncle that took part in some sort of exchange program with Russia in the later years of the Reagan administration. He said that he got a chance to fly some of the technology stripped MIG fighters but even stripped they were awesome planes. He was most impressed with the Russian pilots.


18 posted on 09/16/2005 11:17:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: lizol
Troyanov did ok.

In 1973, my unit sent an A-3 on a routine flight from Guam to the PI.

Three, count em, three: not one, not two, but three navigators on the A-3.


They bailed out of the plane about 1,000 miles off the coast of Japan. Fuel starvation.

They got lost.

No fooling, have the Granpa Petibone article to prove it.
19 posted on 09/16/2005 11:19:14 AM PDT by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: konaice

so sue us for the nav equipment you probably stole and did not replicate perfectly.


20 posted on 09/16/2005 11:19:32 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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