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Russia Loses a Jet to NATO (pictures)
Kommersant ^
| Sep. 16, 2005
| Vladimir Vodo, Ivan Safronov
Posted on 09/16/2005 10:52:40 AM PDT by lizol
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posted on
09/16/2005 10:52:42 AM PDT
by
lizol
To: lizol
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posted on
09/16/2005 10:54:33 AM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
To: lizol
Can't make a jet, can't make a submarine (although they do make one hell of a fishing cable), can't even make a car. Methinks our coldwar enemy was not all we thought at the time.
Owl_Eagle
(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
it was probably sarcasm)
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posted on
09/16/2005 10:55:57 AM PDT
by
End Times Sentinel
(In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
To: lizol
"After reporting his difficulties, Troyanov flew in circles to use up fuel and then parachuted from the craft."
Good man.
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posted on
09/16/2005 10:58:27 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
To: lizol
Holy F-15's Batman, where did that design come from? NATO intercept failure not a good thing. Germany still flying the F-4 Phantoms?
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posted on
09/16/2005 10:58:35 AM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
To: Owl_Eagle
Can't make a jet .. Do you say the same thing when our jets crash? Some of our jets have crashed you know. We've also lost submarines and the Corvair was a made-in-Detroit product.
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: Owl_Eagle
All they had to make was some nukes and a way to deliver them. I believe based on their ability to put men in space that they had that capability. What has happened to the maintainance regime lately is another story.
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:01:56 AM PDT
by
RKV
( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
To: NonValueAdded
NATO intercept failure not a good thing. Germany still flying the F-4 Phantoms?Hey wait a min! I flew in the back seat of a Phantom.
I loved that bird. :-)
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:02:00 AM PDT
by
RadioAstronomer
(Senior member of Darwin Central)
To: Owl_Eagle
Oh, the Russians make really good fighters. The SU-27 is a top of the line fighter.
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:03:07 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: Owl_Eagle
Did they ever figure out where the cable came from that stopped the sub? I was thinking it might have been a WWII anti-submarine net...........
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:03:17 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(BLAME = Democrat .......BALM = Republican.........BLAM = 1 DEAD LOOTER............)
To: lizol
Apparently he had a cell phone even if his regular communication system went out. It's hard to believe that not only he was lost but that his air force lost him. Surely they could have given him some instructions about which way to fly, other than down. Sounds as if more than his navigation system failed.
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:03:17 AM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: RadioAstronomer
The gerries still like it for fast intercept. They like EuroFighter, too but pilots I talked with say they would keep the F4 for the right missions.
To: GarySpFc
The SU-27 is a top of the line fighter. Not really, 2nd shelf now... Don't forget about the F-22
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:09:04 AM PDT
by
Echo Talon
(http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
To: NonValueAdded
The commies borrowed heavily from the Iranian F-14s. Thank you Jimmy Carter and yes, the Luftwaffe is still flying F-4s.
To: lizol
German F-4Phantom fighters had been launched from the airbase in Zokniai. Who needs the Eurofighter!
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:13:36 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
To: lizol
The Russian Defense Ministry claims that the pilot crossed the border because of a malfunction in his navigation equipment, which was also the cause of the crash. Scuze me, but you might stray off course due to navigation failure but you would not CRASH due to nav problems unless you ran into the side of the mountain (which the pictures clearly show is not the case).
Of course the Nav equipment could have caused the crash if it triggered the self-destruct mechanism because it determined the pilot was defecting. The Russians wouldn't do that would they....? Naw...
me:/reaches for tinfoil hat.
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:15:23 AM PDT
by
konaice
To: NonValueAdded
The strangest thing to me is the picture of the camo'd soldier with the shotgun. That's a case of U.S. issue MREs sitting on the ground next to him.
Since when did the U.S. start supplying rations to the Lithuanian army?
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:16:59 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
To: GarySpFc
I have an uncle that took part in some sort of exchange program with Russia in the later years of the Reagan administration. He said that he got a chance to fly some of the technology stripped MIG fighters but even stripped they were awesome planes. He was most impressed with the Russian pilots.
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:17:34 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
To: lizol
Troyanov did ok.
In 1973, my unit sent an A-3 on a routine flight from Guam to the PI.
Three, count em, three: not one, not two, but three navigators on the A-3.
They bailed out of the plane about 1,000 miles off the coast of Japan. Fuel starvation.
They got lost.
No fooling, have the Granpa Petibone article to prove it.
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posted on
09/16/2005 11:19:14 AM PDT
by
Al Gator
(Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
To: konaice
so sue us for the nav equipment you probably stole and did not replicate perfectly.
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