Posted on 09/16/2005 10:52:40 AM PDT by lizol
Granted the F-22s can hit targets beyond the range of the SU-27s, but I thought that the SU-27s had some new vectoring that made them very manuverable.
Granted the F-22s can hit targets beyond the range of the SU-27s, but I thought that the SU-27s had some new vectoring that made them very manuverable.
LOL... Try and kill something you cant see.
Not true.
If you get lost and know that you have only a few pounds of fuel left, you burn that off so when plane crashes it doesn't fire up the neighborhood.
The pilot followed SOP for ground safety.
He found a good spot, used up or dumped remaining fuel, bailed out.
Checklist followed.
Well it is a Nato Country....
But your eyes are better than mine if you can read anything on that case. I've shopped it and I still can't read it.
They made excellent aircraft. What they lacked in high-tech, they brute forced. What they lacked in quality, they made up for in quantity. The bearings in one of the Tumansky's that I saw were amazing - and this wasn't a show jet or a demonstration model - it was a line fighter. You could reach in between the front stators and spin the front spool by hand, and it would spin for another 20-30 seconds before winding down.
The Su-27 is a damm fine aircreft and Sukhoi produces some very good product...
Note to Russian Pilots: Crash somewhere easy to find next time.
Checklist followed.
Maybe for a world war II fighter. Not for a state of the art aircraft. There are multiple independent radio and nav systems in such a plane. All thats needed is a simple VOR or ADF receiver and the most rudimentary map to find your way to a suitable airport.
Further, look at that field. Flat as a pancake. He could have bellied it in more safely and perhaps salvaged the plane. But then, if he gets disoriented immediately after take off as the story reports, he probably didn't have the skill to slide in safely either.
Oh, well, this sh*t happens even to our pilots occasionally.
Fall down, go boom ping
lazy thinking, however ego-boosting, is way too dangerous. i just hope you are not in a position where you can actually influence any decisions...
I am missing something??? The pilot flew in cirlces until it ran out of fuel and ejected, just becuase he couldn't find his way home?
Dont russian pilots know how to navigate? Or was their some other curumstance such as bad weather that prevented him from finding his own way home?
Saw a C5 Galaxy sitting on the taxiway at an air-show reciently. Slight wind - barely enough to sense with a wetted raised finger.
Front spools were lazily "clicking" around. Of course with what seeme to me like an 8 foot opening thats a lot of area to collect even a small amount of wind.
The pilot was perplexed by all the fuss. "My flight path was close enough for government work," the Russian exclaimed.
It sounds fishy to me too. Even assuming all instruments out (which was not aledged), he still had a cell phone. Why not call home and have them vector him home?
Given that he had to put it down (for what ever reason) he may have been ordered to auger it in rather than try to land because the Russians realized they would never get the plane back anyway.
The only thing wrong with the Corvair was a young lawyer named Ralph Nader trying to make a name for himself.
russian stuff may not be the best, but it could well be "good enough", and that often is what wins wars, not necessarily the best equipment available.
All I can say is I have the utmost respect for Russian Scientists & Engineers. They have to design something so well it will work properly after being built by Russian industry.
Under the Soviet system, the design group designed the product and a manufacturing facility was assigned to produce it. Last month washing machines, this month fighter planes, next month tractors and so forth...what a system.
Let's put the pieces together and research the items to seek what kind of technology is used by the fighter, if it is worth the value.
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