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Dinosaurs may have been a fluffy lot
Sunday Times (United Kingdom) ^ | September 4, 2005 | Jonathan Leake

Posted on 09/17/2005 3:35:39 AM PDT by SeaLion

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To: Salamander

Yep, nature recognized there's a time for feathers, a time for fur, and a time for leather. And I'm shutting up before I get a time out. :-)


21 posted on 09/17/2005 4:12:05 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

To everything, turn, turn, turn.....;))

[and with that awful Byrds joke...I'm *outta* here!]

Night again...:>


22 posted on 09/17/2005 4:14:14 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: R. Scott
Nope. Neither would I. Of course, I don’t go into the woods to feed the bears or play with the cougars either.

And yet, there are acutally people who would probably try... Maybe not hugging them, but argue that they are far less dangerous than they truly are.

I recall a story about a naturalist who studied bears his whole life. He was particularly fascinated by the Grizzly. Did some crazy things, like track down their dens to study them. Apparently one fine day he brought his girlfriend out with him for observation near a den where there were young cubs. They found their remains a few days later. One less naturalist, but I sure wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I've tried to find source on this story. I will keep looking and post it when I do. If any Freepers know the guys name it will help. Thanks.

23 posted on 09/17/2005 4:16:46 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SeaLion; All

Learned this in my high school geology class, circa 1977.


24 posted on 09/17/2005 4:20:18 AM PDT by olde north church (Resurrection Scoreboard: J.C.:1, DNC:???)
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To: Salamander

LOL! Later.


25 posted on 09/17/2005 4:21:09 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: PatrickHenry

oops -- missed it somehow.

How can I get the thread pulled? Are the Admins going to devour me like a T-Rex?


26 posted on 09/17/2005 4:25:46 AM PDT by SeaLion ("Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man" -- Thomas Paine)
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To: Centaur
We've always said that the 2 month old chicks around the farm here look like mini-dinosaurs...

Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny:

The theory claims that the development of the embryo of every species repeats the evolutionary development of that species fully. Or otherwise put: each successive stage in the development of an individual represents one of the adult forms that appeared in its evolutionary history. Haeckel formulated his theory as such: "Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny". This notion later became simply known as recapitulation. (From Wikipedia)

Although not an embryo, your observation of young chicks reminded me of this.

27 posted on 09/17/2005 4:33:39 AM PDT by Socratic (Liberal's motto: Capio ergo sum.)
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To: SeaLion
You can make a post to "admin moderator" informing them of the accidental duplication, and request that the thread be pulled or locked. They may do nothing, but it's good form to rat on yourself.

For faster action you can do it with an abuse report, but that's over-reacting. Besides, you look like a great guy when you do it publicly.

28 posted on 09/17/2005 4:40:45 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: Caipirabob

i would love to see teddy's head on that dino.....


29 posted on 09/17/2005 4:53:16 AM PDT by fatteddy
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To: SeaLion

Oh good grief. Next they'll tell us the planet was once covered in feathers and mutated to have rocks instead. Seems they need to clear the rocks from their heads..


30 posted on 09/17/2005 4:54:57 AM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: SeaLion
This implies the biblical sequence of Gen 1, is correct

Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.” 21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23 So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

31 posted on 09/17/2005 4:59:02 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Samwise
Barney?...LOL! That's what I was thinking.. :D
32 posted on 09/17/2005 5:07:06 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: PatrickHenry; Admin Moderator
I've already posted to 'Abuse', making a back up post here to admin moderator:

Apologies, I posted the article at the head of this thread, but now learn it had already been posted; my error, had not seen the earlier. Apologies, mea culpa, peccavi

Please nuke the thread--but hopefully not me!

33 posted on 09/17/2005 5:17:33 AM PDT by SeaLion ("Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man" -- Thomas Paine)
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To: PatrickHenry
you look like a great guy when you do it publicly

Hey, I am a great guy, but: Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas

34 posted on 09/17/2005 5:20:33 AM PDT by SeaLion ("Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man" -- Thomas Paine)
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To: Socratic
Interesting. Fifteen chicks running across the lawn always reminded me of that scene in Jurassic Park where the herd of dinosaurs were running through the field...guess I might become a recapitulationist.
35 posted on 09/17/2005 5:22:50 AM PDT by Centaur (Never practice moderation to excess.)
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To: Caipirabob

But…but…we are guaranteed safety everywhere we go!
If the bears were really dangerous, they wouldn’t be allowed in the park!
Of course I can take my adventure vacation in a country torn by war – I’m not in the military!

There are some really ignorant people out there.


36 posted on 09/17/2005 5:25:43 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: SeaLion
"Creationists: perhaps we can have revised illustrations in some of the comics, so that terrified cavemen are depicted fleeing from feathered dinosaurs?"

I beleive that's been done, re: Quetzalcoatl:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/YaxchilanDivineSerpent.jpg

37 posted on 09/17/2005 5:48:56 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: SeaLion
I was just watching a program last night that advances the theory that the T-Rex wasn't a predator at all, but more of a scavenger. The theory is based on several concepts, including the fact that the thigh bone is shorter than the leg bone which doesn't make the T-Rex that great of a runner. The legs of the T-Rex were compared to those of the Velociraptor, which consist of a longer thigh bone and a shorter leg bone. This leg type allows the creature to run at great speeds.

Another point made in the program is that T-Rex's arms are so small and don't lend themselves to grabbing and holding a meal. Again, the arms of the T-Rex were compared to that of the Velociraptor. The Paleontologist in the program believes that the worse thing that could happen to a T-Rex would be to fall, because he has no real arms to support his body or help get him back up. He believes that a T-Rex could be seriously hurt from a fall. I'm only half-way through the program, but his concept is something to think about.

I'm also reading "Tyrannosaur Canyon" by Douglas Preston ( Preston & Lincoln Child...Relic, Riptide, Cabinet of Curiosities, etc.). The theory that dinosaurs were feathered critters is used in the book. It's the first book of Preston's that I've read and I must say it's pretty good. I've read many of the books he's done with Child. They're two of my favorite writers.

38 posted on 09/17/2005 5:49:11 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: SeaLion
Horse Feathers! This guy is wrong wrong wrong. Rong I tell you! I have SEEN Jurassic Park and even more important, I have seen all of the Godzilla films. Nary one of them things had feathers. So there. My mind is made up. Do not attempt to confuse me with facts.
:)
39 posted on 09/17/2005 5:50:11 AM PDT by Bar-Face (The Embassy helicopter is warming up.)
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To: mass55th
He believes that a T-Rex could be seriously hurt from a fall.

LOL. T-Rex tipping!

40 posted on 09/17/2005 5:50:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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