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CA: Abortion opponents hope to limit access for California girls (Prop 73)
AP: North County Times ^ | LISA LEFF

Posted on 09/17/2005 9:11:05 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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1 posted on 09/17/2005 9:11:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Free contraception. It's the best way to prevent abortions.


2 posted on 09/17/2005 9:16:42 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: calcowgirl

un-f-ing believable. This is some of the best Orwellian language twisting I've ever read in an alleged "news" story.


3 posted on 09/17/2005 9:17:04 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: calcowgirl

Why not just give out cigarettes, since it increases the risk of miscarriage anyway.


4 posted on 09/17/2005 9:22:50 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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To: ElkGroveDan
But it's so see through- don't get angry. It's hilarious.
5 posted on 09/17/2005 9:23:30 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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This is one of my favorites. Doing away with the practice of goverment complicity in secret abortion on children has become:

the state to help a 13-year-old's parents learn that she's pregnant.

6 posted on 09/17/2005 9:33:28 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: calcowgirl

Prop 73 will be an uphill climb. Hopefully it can find some traction. Of course, it'll be no time before the black robes smack down the Will of the People. Again.


7 posted on 09/17/2005 9:44:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA Freepers, HELP Enforce Our Border: http://www.CaliforniaBorderPolice.com/)
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We can set up a bureaucracy to do it!
8 posted on 09/17/2005 9:46:18 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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To: mc6809e
Won't work. Recent studies suggest the males are deliberately eschewing contraception believing the females won't trust them if they make use of condoms. Females have been taught by feminists that closing your legs makes you an patriarchally oppressed prude. She needs to have that "Gotcha! I'm preggers" power over her male prize.

To even the playing field created by the 'sexual revolution', males need a highly reliable non-barrier method of contraception.

Even on top of all these things, without a cultural shift especially among those in the black community there will still be a majority situation of unwed motherhood. Culturally, the black male looks down on contraception in general and condoms especially.

9 posted on 09/17/2005 9:51:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA Freepers, HELP Enforce Our Border: http://www.CaliforniaBorderPolice.com/)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I admit, I skipped the article imagining exactly what you described. You confirmed my suspicions. I don't need to expose myself to their reeducation down-is-up language.


10 posted on 09/17/2005 9:54:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA Freepers, HELP Enforce Our Border: http://www.CaliforniaBorderPolice.com/)
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To: calcowgirl
It is infuriating to pay taxes to a government that uses the money to fund schools that pass out condoms like candy on holloween, and to fund welfare programs that reward single mothers and absolve irresponsible fathers. Add up the equation and what is the result.

The souless liberal judges see the simple solution to an unwanted child as abortion. To this demon in a black robe a child in the womb in not a legal citizen and has no right to life.

How much smaller an issue for a liberal judge must be a father's right to know his daughter is legally killing his grandchild. Non-existent I should think.

This will end someday. Sooner rather than later I believe.

11 posted on 09/17/2005 10:05:13 PM PDT by Once-Ler ("Our only hope is that Congress will continue to do what is does best... nothing." John Roberts)
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If voters who really care about teens and the communication they need with their parents can get the word out, and not allow Planned Parenthood to act as surrogate parents (God forbid), then maybe we can get the voters educated about the necessity of passing Prop 73! Write letters to the editor of the paper, talk to people about the need for parent/teen cooperation and discussion in a time of personal crisis. Don't leave your teen's relationship with her parents up to the big business of PP with their skilled marketing talent and slick ads!


12 posted on 09/17/2005 10:12:11 PM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Snap on and don't let go!)
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To: mc6809e

I agree. Free vasectomies for boys/men is the ticket.


13 posted on 09/17/2005 10:15:58 PM PDT by Lorianne
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Equally disturbing to Maggie Crosby, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union of Northern California, is a clause in the amendment defining abortion as a procedure that "causes the death of the unborn child." Inserting that label into the state Constitution, rather than a medical term such as fetus or embryo, "can have far-reaching consequences on everything from stem cell research to fertility treatments and it's totally unnecessary to the definition of abortion," Crosby said.

You forgot the BARF ALERT. This paragraph made me hurl.

14 posted on 09/17/2005 10:19:42 PM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: calcowgirl
This is a liberal, pro-choice state but it WILL pass. Parents, including a considerable number of liberals want to know if their child needs an abortion. Its not about abortion but about parental consent. Teenagers need parental permission to take a tablet of aspirin. They ought to have to obtain it when it involves potentially life-threatening surgery.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
15 posted on 09/17/2005 10:20:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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[Its not about abortion but about parental consent. Teenagers need parental permission to take a tablet of aspirin. They ought to have to obtain it when it involves potentially life-threatening surgery.]


Simple, short, and true.


16 posted on 09/17/2005 10:42:01 PM PDT by spinestein (Forget the Golden Rule. Remember the Brazen Rule.)
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To: mc6809e

SELF PING


17 posted on 09/17/2005 10:52:03 PM PDT by SweetCaroline (Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted!!)
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To: calcowgirl

Why bother? Any of these propositions, approved by their voting public, that actually "does" anything decent, will be declared unconstitutional.


18 posted on 09/17/2005 11:04:51 PM PDT by Hayley
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require doctors to give parents or guardians written notice 48 hours before performing an abortion on a minor.

I like the idea of Prop 73, but I'm not sure how the provisions will be enforced.

How will the doctors know if/when the parents have received the written notices? If they are sent by mail, the children could intercept the notices, and the parents would never know. If the parents must sign to indicate they have received the notice, perhaps the children could forge the signatures unless the note deliverers require someone over 21 to accept them (like with alcoholic beverages by mail order), or the pro-abortionists might say it's unfair if parents refuse to sign.

19 posted on 09/17/2005 11:07:10 PM PDT by heleny (Yes on CA Propositions 73, 74, 75)
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To: mc6809e
Sterilization of liberals. It's the best way.
20 posted on 09/17/2005 11:16:14 PM PDT by Tim Long
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