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Making The Move From CD to iPod
New Jersey.com ^ | September 18, 2005 | Allan Hoffman

Posted on 09/18/2005 7:44:51 PM PDT by SamAdams76

I am giving up CDs. Within the next several months, I expect most of my family's CDs will be converted for playing on our iPods and personal computers. The actual CDs will either be sold or given away. As more people connect their digital music players to their home stereos and car stereos, they realize they have no use for the racks of CDs taking up space in their homes. If you no longer play CDs, why keep them? That is the conclusion my wife and I reached, and that is why I am completing the arduous process of moving the music to more compact computer storage from the CDs.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cds; foolsandtheirtoys; ipod; lossofhearing; music; waste; wasteofmoney; wasteoftime
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This is my experience almost exactly. Only I am not selling my CDs but boxing them up for storage in the attic. I gather that one day, when hard drive storage is even greater than today, I might want to re-rip my songs at a higher bitrate.

I find that the iPod/iTunes combination puts me in much better touch with my massive music collection (some 24,000 tracks). Though iTunes is a memory hog with that many songs. I had to upgrade to a full gig of RAM.

Newer iPods feature album art and lyrics so the issue of liner notes will be going away shortly.

iTunes 5.0 already allows for lyrics and there will shortly be a program written that will search the web for lyrics for all those songs on iTunes (as well as cover art) and insert them for you.

Apple has sold 27 million iPods to date. For the next two quarters, Apple is forcasting the sale of 26 million iPods. So within six months, the iPods will double to nearly 54 million!

I saw the new nano iPod over the weekend and I tell you that this is one of the most amazing consumer devices I have ever seen. I'm definitely getting one to complement my 40gig iPod. It will be perfect for taking on the road and for workouts.

1 posted on 09/18/2005 7:44:52 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

I take it you work for Apple.


2 posted on 09/18/2005 7:47:32 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: SamAdams76
Only I am not selling my CDs but boxing them up for storage in the attic.

Wise move. Theoretically speaking, if you no longer own the albums, you no longer have a legal right to own the music on your iPod. Unless of course you bought it seperately through iTunes or some such. I expect this columnist will probably receive a letter reminding him of that. Not that I necessarily agree with this state of affairs - I merely report ;)

3 posted on 09/18/2005 7:49:06 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: Last Dakotan

Sometimes I think must be the only person left who doesn't have an iPod and doesn't feel the need for one.


4 posted on 09/18/2005 7:49:07 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Sometimes I think I must be the only person left who doesn't have one and doesn't feel the need for one.


5 posted on 09/18/2005 7:50:01 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: SamAdams76

If you want your CD's to last.....you WON'T be putting them in your attic!

I don't get the iPod craze.......but, then, I'm not a music afficiando...AND.....I'll have my hearing when I'm 80....LOL.


6 posted on 09/18/2005 7:50:28 PM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 years and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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To: SamAdams76

give me my thirty three and one thirds or give me death...


7 posted on 09/18/2005 7:50:47 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: general_re
I never thought of that. If you sell your CDs, you theoretically (though not necessarily legally) no longer have the right to own digital copies of those CDs.

Paging Freeper lawyers to answer this question.

8 posted on 09/18/2005 7:50:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: SamAdams76

give me my thirty three and one thirds or give me death...


9 posted on 09/18/2005 7:51:11 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: GOP_Proud

Can someone explain to a technical ignoramus. What is an IPOD?


10 posted on 09/18/2005 7:51:17 PM PDT by JBGUSA (If it's us or them, I choose us.)
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To: GOP_Proud

Well, it looks like there are three of us, ## 4 & 5 and me now!


11 posted on 09/18/2005 7:51:36 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Last Dakotan
I have eliminated all iPOD products from my upcoming mp3 player purchase as I dont want to be hamstrung with using iTunes - I want to be able to use windows explorer to move files onto and off of my mp3 player.

I keep hearing apple geeks proclaim this is possible with an iPOD but I found out for myself - nope.

Lots of mp3 players out there now.

12 posted on 09/18/2005 7:52:04 PM PDT by corkoman (Overhyped)
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To: SamAdams76

I've put my entire collection on my Mac PowerBook G4 and have the same experience. Not shuffling CDs is wonderful.

I also move favorite playlists to my iPod. I'm currently playing it through the car stereo with a poor cassette tape adapter. I've got a CD changer in the car, but I plan to buy an iPod adapter to provide a direct line-input to the car stereo for better sound quality. I've also bought Rush's 24/7 which includes automatically downloaded podcasts. It's great to hear him on the way to work in the morning. Our local AM station is pretty poor, so hearing Rush on the iPod is like being in the sound-booth with him. The sound is incredible.

Be sure to also buy a back hard disk in case your primary HD goes kablooey. I bought a Seagate 300 GB drive last week for $129 to back up my Mac. It's great peace-of-mind knowing I don't have to re-rip all my CDs.


13 posted on 09/18/2005 7:52:16 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Revolting cat!

You missed me....#6.....I could CARE LESS about iPODS....


14 posted on 09/18/2005 7:52:47 PM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 years and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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To: GOP_Proud

Until you own an iPod, you will never understand! I bought mine on a lark and now I don't know how I ever lived without it.


15 posted on 09/18/2005 7:52:51 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: GOP_Proud

Nope, you're not. I love my CDs and my portable CD player. Nothing against those who want iPods, of course.


16 posted on 09/18/2005 7:53:00 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (As long as Dean's the head of the D-N-C, it just looks better for the G-O-P!!)
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To: SamAdams76

The Nano looks cool and useful for workouts. I may soon get one or something akin to it.


17 posted on 09/18/2005 7:53:08 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: SamAdams76
The actual CDs will either be sold or given away.

This person better hope they never have any computer viruses, or any problems with their Ipod, unless they want to have to pay for the same music over and over.

18 posted on 09/18/2005 7:53:17 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: SamAdams76

I don't think I'll be scrapping my several hundred opera CDs in the near future.


19 posted on 09/18/2005 7:53:57 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: SamAdams76

I still haven't bought my first CD yet!


20 posted on 09/18/2005 7:54:35 PM PDT by digger48
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To: JohnLongIsland
Back to Mono!


21 posted on 09/18/2005 7:54:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: JBGUSA

Imagine all your own music being put into your own sort of radio station that is a little larger than a creditcard. You can play the songs you want in what ever order or shuffle them. You dont have to change the cds because there isnt any. You can carry thousands of songs with you and play them in the car or at home.


22 posted on 09/18/2005 7:55:39 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: corkoman
It is possible. Turn on hidden files in Windows, and copy the MP3's in "iPod control." Once that has been done, set iTunes to the task of re-organizing the folder, and you have extracted your MP3's.

It's needlessly complicated, but it is quite doable.

23 posted on 09/18/2005 7:55:44 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: SamAdams76
IPODs?

Sorry, but me and my 8-Tracks, Beta max, and Tandy computer are alright by me.

24 posted on 09/18/2005 7:56:06 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: SamAdams76
There is still a place for CDs for the audiophile who doesn't want to sacrifice sound quality, and for people like me who are waiting for the MP3 player technology/price sweet spot to drop a little.
25 posted on 09/18/2005 7:56:13 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: SamAdams76

VERY cool. I have two Ipods- the U2 limited edition and a green mini. I SO wish I had a Nano- I bought the mini to work out with and I just love it.

How do you get lyrics with Itunes 5.0?


26 posted on 09/18/2005 7:57:16 PM PDT by lawgirl (Sure I believe in intelligent design. The best accident we've come up with is Mary in grilled cheese)
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To: JBGUSA

An iPod is just a trendy music player using digital music files rather than traditional media (CD, cassettes, LP's).

It's got a fancy user interface which you can navigate by spinning your fingers around the stationary "wheel."

It's all the rage among the Prius-driving, Starbucks-drinking, Barnes-and-Noble-lounging, Poncho-wearing urban flakes. Not to disgrace the submitter, or anyone else here who has one, as the converse is not necessarilly true. It just seems like Apple and Google are the latest fads among the 'metrosexual' crowd. Now, I have to wash my hands for typing that word.

27 posted on 09/18/2005 7:57:48 PM PDT by Dan Nunn
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To: All

28 posted on 09/18/2005 7:57:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: SamAdams76

Selling your CD collection would be insane. Storing them in the attic/garage would be only a little less so. Some times I listen to something on my iPod that I haven't listened to before and I realize I need to re-rip the CD. Besides, you would need multiple redundant backups to be completely safe.

I'd rather have the CDs. I can take somewhere if need be, play them in my car (don't have it hooked up for iPod yet, but usually copy the CD first), or do several other things.


29 posted on 09/18/2005 7:58:25 PM PDT by 1L
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To: JBGUSA
Can someone explain to a technical ignoramus. What is an IPOD?

It's a device that plays music, or any kind of sound file- like audio books. Instead of having removable media like casettes or CDs, it uses digital files. No moving parts, and often a HUGE storage capacity. The sound quality is quite good, and the device itself is the size of a pack of cigarettes. You see people listening to them all the time on the DC Metro system while they're commuting. You can also listen to PODcasts on them, which are basically just a recorded broadcast saved in a filetype that iPods like-- MP3.

30 posted on 09/18/2005 7:58:29 PM PDT by Riley (STOP CASTING POROSITY!!)
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To: corkoman
Lots of mp3 players out there now.

Just bought one for my daughter for the same reasons - loves it.

31 posted on 09/18/2005 7:58:36 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: SamAdams76
I gather that one day, when hard drive storage is even greater than today, I might want to re-rip my songs at a higher bitrate.

I'm sure you can fit every CD you own, at 192 or even 320 quality, on one of these:

Above: LaCie Firewire 800/USB 2.0 1-Terrabyte Disk Array ($800)

32 posted on 09/18/2005 7:58:45 PM PDT by montag813
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To: GOP_Proud

Me neither. I like CDs, heck I like vinyl. Those two things are just cooler in ways I can't even quantify, but can only feel...


33 posted on 09/18/2005 7:59:36 PM PDT by MadManDan
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To: SamAdams76
I can shop, exercise, do yard work, and, yes (gasp!) even drive without ever listening to music. Life is just fine without a soundtrack distracting you from the experience. You should try it sometime.
34 posted on 09/18/2005 7:59:42 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: GOP_Proud
Sometimes I think must be the only person left who doesn't have an iPod

You are not the Lone Ranger

35 posted on 09/18/2005 8:01:48 PM PDT by apackof2 (Never underestimate the power of a fuzzy friend!)
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To: Dan Nunn
I think you may be on to something...If anybody wants to get rich, the should make a handgun or jacknife that is also an MP3 player for the less trendy crowd. Maybe you could build one in to a beer can holder, or a extra-large belt buckle?
36 posted on 09/18/2005 8:02:17 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: corkoman
You can use an iPod without iTunes. There are a lot of Windows programs out there to replace the functionality (and more) of iTunes.

Such as: Anapod Explorer

37 posted on 09/18/2005 8:03:11 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

YES....I am amazed at the people who cannot spend QUIET time with themselves......listening to their thoughts, their homes, their neighborhoods.....NOW, If I could get a music system that would blot out idiots driving like maniacs, the smog of the city, or the construction crews work next door....THEN, maybe, maybe, I'd be interested. I quit a good paying job so I could have QUIET time....but, then, I'd make a good hermit.


38 posted on 09/18/2005 8:03:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 years and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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To: GOP_Proud
Sometimes I think must be the only person left who doesn't have an iPod and doesn't feel the need for one

I don't have one either

I just stick with the radio for music

39 posted on 09/18/2005 8:03:53 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: lawgirl
There is now a tab for lyrics in iTunes 5.0 when you right click on a song for "Get Info". You can then write in lyrics.

Too cumbersome for me though. I have read that there will soon be a program developed that will take your iTunes library and search the web for lyrics and then paste them into the songs for you.

40 posted on 09/18/2005 8:05:21 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: M1911A1
I love it!

The trigger plays/pauses, and the buttons at the end of the barrel will skip to the next and previous songs. The cartridge holds all the memory. You might be on to something!

41 posted on 09/18/2005 8:06:24 PM PDT by Dan Nunn
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To: GOP_Proud
Sometimes I think must be the only person left who doesn't have an iPod and doesn't feel the need for one.

I still have a Walkman from 1985 and still watch my "newest" TV, a 1982 Zenith we got in early 1983.
42 posted on 09/18/2005 8:06:39 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
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To: SamAdams76

Legally too - once you sell the CDs, the license to that music goes with the CDs to the new owner. You never really own the music, just a license to listen to it at your convenience, and the license stays with the disc. That's why, if you run over your discs with a steamroller, you have to buy new CDs instead of getting free replacements - you don't own the music, just a piece of plastic and a license to listen. Sell them, and the buyer now has a license to listen to the music, and you don't any more.


43 posted on 09/18/2005 8:06:55 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: GOP_Proud
Sometimes I think must be the only person left who doesn't have an iPod and doesn't feel the need for one.

Nope. Me, too.

44 posted on 09/18/2005 8:07:08 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: SamAdams76

I already carry around a $100 cell phone and often an equivalent value in cash. No way am I going to carry around yet another expensive, really small electronic gadget, especially when I can replay and remix some of my favorite music in my own head.


45 posted on 09/18/2005 8:08:01 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
RE: # 34.

Amazing, isn't it. It's been said that Americans are afraid of silence and of being left alone with their own thoughts. There is nothing more annoying than having to listen to overhead speakers blasting some disco garbage while exercising in the gym. Listening to music used to be done as a special occasion. Nowadays we are assaulted with recorded sounds everywhere we go whether we like it or not, all or most of it mediocre or worse.

When I do my runs I want to hear the street, the wind, the trains far in the distance, the dogs barking, the ambience of the world. But that's just me...

46 posted on 09/18/2005 8:08:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Dan Nunn
It's all the rage among the Prius-driving, Starbucks-drinking, Barnes-and-Noble-lounging, Poncho-wearing urban flakes. Not to disgrace the submitter, or anyone else here who has one, as the converse is not necessarilly true. It just seems like Apple and Google are the latest fads among the 'metrosexual' crowd. Now, I have to wash my hands for typing that word.

First of all, the photo you posted is a first generation iPod that hasn't been made for years. Secondly, your description of the typical iPod user is not typical at all. There are as many conservative iPod users as there are liberal metrosexuals. Even President Bush uses an iPod.

Time to come into the 21st Century!

47 posted on 09/18/2005 8:08:30 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: 1L

As I mainly listen to classical music, rather than a list of "songs", I have little need of an iPod. Most symphonies and operas are rather long, so shuffling lists of songs does not interest me much. I could use one on a plane flight, I suppose, but otherwise, I'm fine with CDs.


48 posted on 09/18/2005 8:09:15 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("...on Earth, as it is in TEXAS")
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To: Nowhere Man

And I have a 1987 calico cat hopping up to the top of the 1982 Zenith to lay down. B-D


49 posted on 09/18/2005 8:09:45 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
I can shop, exercise, do yard work, and, yes (gasp!) even drive without ever listening to music. Life is just fine without a soundtrack distracting you from the experience. You should try it sometime.

You make a lot of baseless assumptions and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I just spent two hours walking in the woods this morning sans iPod.

50 posted on 09/18/2005 8:11:47 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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