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Detroit mayor rekindles tensions between city and suburbs
WFRV.COM ^ | 09-19-2005 | BREE FOWLER, AP

Posted on 09/19/2005 12:08:07 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Monday September 19, 2005
By BREE FOWLER
Associated Press Writer

DETROIT (AP) At a time when Detroit needs its suburbs more than ever, the long-standing rivalry between the city and its surrounding towns is hitting another rough patch.

Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, facing a tough re-election fight, last week caused a controversy when he singled out two school districts in neighboring Oakland County as having higher rates of drug use than Detroit's.

``In Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills and all these places, they do more meth, they do more Ecstasy and they do more acid than all the schools in the city of Detroit put together,'' Kilpatrick said Thursday during the first of three planned debates with challenger Freman Hendrix.

County and school district officials lashed out at the mayor Friday, saying the statement was irresponsible, and requested a public apology.

``Those comments insulted the residents of Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, insulted the students and impugned the reputation of two of our finest, exemplary school districts,'' said Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson.

Patterson said Kilpatrick's comments were reminiscent of longtime Detroit Mayor Coleman Young, whom Patterson said refused to develop any kind of relationship with the surrounding communities.

In his January 1974 inaugural speech, Young enraged suburban officials when he encouraged the city's criminals to ``hit Eight Mile Road'' and leave the city by way of the suburbs. Eight Mile Road is the dividing line between predominantly black and low-income Detroit and its largely white and affluent northern suburbs.

``Kwame has largely been a very affable person to work with, but once in a while he makes comments like these that really hurt relations,'' Patterson said. ``I'll continue to work with him because he's the leader of Michigan's largest city, but he's not going to be on my Christmas card list.''

Even before Patterson's demand for an apology, the mayor released a statement late Thursday saying, ``Character issues such as drug abuse are not exclusive to Detroit Public Schools. My reference to substance abuse, not intended to focus on any particular school district, was simply used to illustrate this position.''

Messages seeking further comment from Kilpatrick were not returned Friday.

Patterson said he doesn't understand why Kilpatrick would make such inflammatory comments about two of Oakland County's most prosperous communities, unless he thought it would win him votes.

Pollster Ed Sarpolus of EPIC/MRA in Lansing said that may be the case.

In the August primary, Hendrix out-polled Kilpatrick 44 percent to 34 percent making Kilpatrick the first incumbent mayor to finish second in a primary in at least 60 years.

Sarpolus said that while polls show nearly an even split among black voters between Kilpatrick and Hendrix, both of whom are black, the vast majority of whites and other minorities, which account for about 20 percent of the voting population, prefer Hendrix.

As a result, Kilpatrick may be trying to create an ``us versus them'' mentality and label his opponent as the suburban candidate in an attempt to swing the black vote in his favor, Sarpolus said.

``Mayor Kilpatrick doesn't care anything about suburban relations right now,'' Sarpolus said. ``He just cares about the election. The problem with comments like this is that they're only made for the moment.''

At a news conference Friday afternoon, Hendrix said Kilpatrick's drug comments were ``inappropriate'' and ``immature'' but it is up to the mayor to apologize.

The general election, which will be held Nov. 8, comes at a time when Detroit's population is still declining. Detroit has lost about half its population since the 1950s, when the city and the American automotive industry were at their peaks. It is now the country's 11th-largest city with about 900,000 residents.

At the same time, the city continues to struggle with problems of crime, unemployment, urban decay and a $300 million budget deficit.

The U.S. Census Bureau reported last month that Detroit was the nation's most impoverished big city in 2004, with more than one-third of its residents living at or below the federal poverty line.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 8mileroad; detroit; kwame; mayoralrace; michigan; racistmayor
Detroit just doesn't get it - and then they scratch their heads and wonder why the producers fled to the 'burbs, leaving the city exposed like a rusted jalopy on concrete blocks.

I don't think even hosting the Super Bowl is going to help them. Most of the fans are going to stay in Windsor, Canada or in the suburbs. They'll go to the game and leave, won't spend any money in that third-world cesspool.

1 posted on 09/19/2005 12:08:07 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

BUMP


2 posted on 09/19/2005 12:13:43 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Why, oh why doesn't Bush see the poverty in Detroit and ameliorate it? He just doesn't care.


3 posted on 09/19/2005 12:33:04 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

He should know better than to state the truth. He's a politician.:)


4 posted on 09/19/2005 12:38:05 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
In the August primary, Hendrix out-polled Kilpatrick 44 percent to 34 percent making Kilpatrick the first incumbent mayor to finish second in a primary in at least 60 years.

If Hendrix won the primary, how or why are they still running against each other?
5 posted on 09/19/2005 12:49:20 AM PDT by self_evident
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Nuff said.

6 posted on 09/19/2005 1:01:02 AM PDT by konaice
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To: konaice
Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills are beautiful, affluent mostly white northern suburbs.
7 posted on 09/19/2005 1:50:42 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: self_evident

The Primary had a number of camdidates and was held to narrow the field to two who would go head-to-head.


8 posted on 09/19/2005 2:07:58 AM PDT by Socratic (Liberal's motto: Capio ergo sum.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Detroit: Government according to Robert Mugabe- President of Zimbabwe Blame all white people for the black mans problems.

Bad government is bad government but black leaders take it to an even lower plain.
9 posted on 09/19/2005 2:14:22 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: konaice

Aw, two of the pimps of the election and race industries!


10 posted on 09/19/2005 2:14:36 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
``Those comments insulted the residents of Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, insulted the students and impugned the reputation of two of our finest, exemplary school districts,'' said Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson.

Self-righteousness to the core. "I'm not as bad as you."

11 posted on 09/19/2005 2:24:52 AM PDT by aardvark1 (Eschew obfuscation.)
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``In Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills and all these places, they do more meth, they do more Ecstasy and they do more acid than all the schools in the city of Detroit put together,'' Kilpatrick said..."

Well then, by the mayor's own measure, if you believe the statements below, then the inner-city schools need to lace the school lunches with meth, Ecstasy and acid, if they want their scores to improve:

On every measure (MEAP scores, SAT scores, ACT scores, graduation rates…) , looking at every possible subgroup of the student population (white, black, rich, poor…), Detroit public school students are behind the averages for Wayne County and for Michigan as a whole. In most cases, way behind.

Only 28.8% of low-income students in Detroit pass the MEAP, compared to 44.9 percent in the state as a whole. Only 30% of African-Americans in Detroit have passing MEAP scores, compared to 37.8% statewide.

http://www.mackinac.org/article.aspx?ID=6688

12 posted on 09/19/2005 3:03:59 AM PDT by zipper (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

poor as a church mouse and as high a crime rate as in any third world craphole. Detroit. Why is it I should care?
The residents that have stayed there obviously don't.


13 posted on 09/19/2005 3:08:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............the spirit of Coleman Young lives on........... it is always the fault of the " Hostile white suburbanites " to directly quote him........


14 posted on 09/19/2005 4:10:06 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Terrorists are murderers.........Feed them pork and kill them!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Since the kids in the 'burbs are strung out to a higher degree AND scoring higher on tests w/o the criminal backgrounds, std rates and teen pregnancy ... what is he saying about the brainpower of the inner-city community?!?


15 posted on 09/19/2005 4:16:39 AM PDT by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
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To: ncountylee

So why do they care about what this windbag says? What is the importance of the 'relationship' between the city and the suburbs? Do they have ambassadors and treaties or ssomething?


16 posted on 09/19/2005 4:57:06 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I would never cast a ballot for some clown named Kwame.


17 posted on 09/19/2005 4:59:31 AM PDT by dennisw (If you can serve a cup of tea right, you can do anything. - Gurdjieff)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I live in the "burbs" of Detroit, but actually cover inner city Detroit for my job. I was downtown a lot last week, and asked many of the residents I came in contact with (mainly black working class ~ valets, store-clerks, etc.) who they thought would win the election. To my surprise all of them said Freeman Hendrix. I also saw many blacks wearing "Freeman" campaign buttons. I may be a fool but I actually think Freeman may win this, and "Kwame-be-da-mayor" as we refer to him may be just a bad Detroit memory.

If I am wrong and they re-elect him, shame on em!


18 posted on 09/19/2005 5:03:02 AM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Maybe so, Kwame, but..me...I'll take my chances in Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills.


19 posted on 09/19/2005 5:14:40 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Love is the ultimate aphrodisiac.)
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I actually think Freeman may win this, and "Kwame-be-da-mayor" as we refer to him may be just a bad Detroit memory.

Wouldn't that be nice? But not enough. Hendrix is better than Kwame, but nowhere near the level of Archer. Archer was not able to save the city from the entrenched bureaucracy and the unions.Hendrix won't succeed either.

BTW - it would be nice to see Kwame's mama, Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, get voted out too.
20 posted on 09/19/2005 5:21:47 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
``In Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills and all these places, they do more meth, they do more Ecstasy and they do more acid than all the schools in the city of Detroit put together,'' Kilpatrick said Thursday during the first of three planned debates with challenger Freman Hendrix.

I'd love to see the hard evidence backing up this assertion.

21 posted on 09/19/2005 5:30:30 AM PDT by grellis (Femininist. Think about it.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Gee, you mean Gov. Granola's "cool city" plan for Detroit isn't working.

I was hoping that Granola's effort to build taxpayer subsidized couscous stands would make Detroit the couscous capital of the Midwest. After all, nearly every successful city builds wealth via couscous stands paid for by taxpayers. Guess that $100 million transfer of wealth from the suburbs to Detroit just ain't working.

I'm sure that Granola, Kwame and their Marxist criminal class are making millions, though.



22 posted on 09/19/2005 5:35:57 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Member of Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

well of course other cities have higher meth, x, and acid rates, cuz detroit is so addicted to coke, crack, heroine and weed, that they haven't bothered to try any of those other drugs.


23 posted on 09/19/2005 5:53:26 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Is Kwame Kilpatrick related to Kweisi Mfume?

Kartoon karacter kognomens.

Leni

24 posted on 09/19/2005 6:18:46 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The only time I will dare venture into Detroit is to go to the Detroit Fox for their "Rocket's Christmas Spectacular" as a friend plays the Mighty Wurlitzer before the show. Other than that the only semi-safe way to pass through Detroit is at 80 MPH with the windows closed, doors locked.

To the post at hand, I read it twice but did not see where the Mayor's comments were factually wrong. Insensitive yes but grow up! If there are schools with high drug use the administrators need to focus on the problem and not on someone shining a light on the problem regardless of the Mayor's motives. Yes the Mayor is a butt head and Detroit continues to deteriorate under the current administration. Like the school administrators he needs to focus on his problems and stop the finger pointing.

25 posted on 09/19/2005 6:28:27 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: ncountylee

I heard Grosse Pointe is beautiful too. Is that where all the auto executives stay?


26 posted on 09/19/2005 9:33:14 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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There are 5 Grosse Points. Auto executives live in Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, all the Grosse Points and several other upscale areas.

I've lived in Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills and Grosse Point Shores and liked the 'Shores' best.

27 posted on 09/19/2005 9:45:04 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Top Operative: Mayor Should Consider Resigning
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1958932/posts


28 posted on 02/02/2008 11:12:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
What is amazing about this article is the complete absence of the fact that the esteemed mayor was just caught in a lie of testifying under oath that he had no relationship with one of his underlings and now text messages at the time in question show that they both lied.

Now it goes without saying that a Pubbie would be fending off a barrage of outraged liberal news outlets under the same circumstances. This story plays a selective amnesia approach that, for a light news consumer, completely hides the credibility issues of the mayor.

29 posted on 02/03/2008 12:43:27 AM PST by torchthemummy (There Will Be No McCain Nomination Without Huckabee Running Interference)
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