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Boat owners say they were fearful during Coast Guard search
The Monterey Herald ^
| September 18, 2005
| VIRGINIA HENNESSEY
Posted on 09/22/2005 2:42:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: The SISU kid
Hah! I've been through there too... went out in a chartered sailboat... at max ebb... It's like being fired out of a slingshot. :-)
Deception Pass. And How.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:22:11 PM PDT
by
Ramius
(Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
To: GladesGuru
I'd applaud "Rambo-like" conduct if it was applied to gee I don't know...ISLAMIC MURDERERS. But not one of those boat owners seemed to have a rag head name. How exactly did they pose a threat to security?
To: The_Media_never_lie
Yeah, that Freedom of Speech thing is overrated, anyway.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:23:02 PM PDT
by
Politicalmom
(Do I HAVE to type "sarcasm off"?)
To: Jack Black
Huh, what are you talking about? We don't know the full circumstances of the boardings. The details are not provided in this article to come to a conclusion of whether the Coast Guard did anything wrong. You can't be drunk and drive a boat legally, you do know that right?
Also, suggestion, don't drink and drive and be a smartalec to the Police Officer who pulls you over because you just want to have fun.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:23:15 PM PDT
by
GodBlessUSA
(US Troops, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
To: Ramius
Coast Guard boarding parties, however, are specifically trained NOT to abuse this power and for the overwhelming number of cases this is true. I once knew a retired member of the Coast Guard who bragged to me how he liked to trash people's boats who mentioned the Constitution.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:24:55 PM PDT
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
To: Rebelbase
Did you screw up post #121 by forgetting to put (The Coast Guard is here to serve the citizenry, not the other way round.) in quotes or italics? That is my statement - a statement of fact, of course - and does not require quotes or italics. Nor does it mean that I think the Coast Guard is somehow not serving the people. Or do you think that when I say "The fry cook's job is to serve french fries," what I really mean is "the fry cook isn't doing his job"?
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:25:37 PM PDT
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
To: AdamSelene235
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:25:52 PM PDT
by
Ramius
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To: samm1148
We don't know why they were boarded. We don't know the circumstances because the article doesn't provide the details. Conclusion of many is all based on conjecture of the few comments of two men in this article.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:27:00 PM PDT
by
GodBlessUSA
(US Troops, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
To: Ramius
Knew him when he was a student at Georgia Tech. He'd gone in the CG first and was doing college afterwards.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:27:37 PM PDT
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
To: freeeee
Read the article, the fool CONSENTED to being searched.
To: Ramius
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:28:33 PM PDT
by
GodBlessUSA
(US Troops, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
What a bunch of silly BS.
I guess it's news to some folks that, if you are on a boat or ship your Constitutional rights are a wee bit different than when your feet are upon the dry land of the United States of America.
This is the way it has always been.
I bet these same citizens had no problem when New York State and the Feds searched EVERY ship and boat in New York harbor for drugs, without any probable cause except that they were ships and boats in the "custom zone".
If you don't like it, move off your boats onto dry land.
BTW, if you hold a commercial mariners or fishing license, you and all/any of your property can be searched, without warrant, without "probable cause", if you are within 100 miles of the coast.
These are old customs and treasury rules mainly used in the past against smugglers. These sorts of laws are TRADITIONAL all over the world where mariners live and work.
To: AdamSelene235
I'm not denying he said it, I'm saying that to infer that this attitude is somehow commonplace... is nonsense. It simply isn't.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:29:03 PM PDT
by
Ramius
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"To me it reeks of Nazi Germany and the death squads in Argentina," he said. "I don't want my name on their list."They killed you?
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:29:13 PM PDT
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
To: Nov3
You just wish you were in NO's kicking in doors, seizing guns and pissing on the Constitution. I've been to NO two times, both for business conventions. Each time I walked around the French Quarter and marveled in in a kind of morbid fascination how people could live with the smell of rotting garbage, urine, vomit and beer everywhere. I'd never actually "wish" to be there.
And I think that taking away guns from lawful citizens is asking to get shot.
But I also think that when the Coast Guard is tasked with interdicting anything and everything, they have my OK to kick someone's ars if need be. But then again, I'm one of those people who think that if you make the police chase you then they should not only be allowed to beat you up, they should be encouraged to beat you up when they catch you.
Coasties are the best, and if they wanted to board my ship with guns then so be it. I'd probably treat it as if I were at an air show and thankful to have the opportunity to see some of the cool hardware my tax dollars are paying for.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:34:24 PM PDT
by
MarineBrat
(When it rains, New Orleans makes its own gravy.)
To: general_re
Gotcha. You were just dodging the question. Cute trick.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:34:45 PM PDT
by
Rebelbase
(The Mainstream Media is "Stuck on stupid". (Gen. Honore))
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"To me it reeks of Nazi Germany and the death squads in Argentina," he said. "I don't want my name on their list." Stupid self-glorifying lefty - he just wishes he were important enough for his name to be on somebody's "list." But if something happened at Moss Landing, guess who'd be the first on the phone, complaining that he wasn't being "protected" and it was all Bush's fault. I have a family member who's a police officer, and whenever they do routine traffic stops around the bar areas at night, the most abusive folks are the white liberals driving their high-end cars. And of course, these are also the people who, after their house is broken into because they have left their door unlocked, scream obscenities over the phone at the police because their valuables haven't been found yet and there is not a special detail devoted just to their insignificant burglary. Oh, yes, and they also routinely vote to reduce money for the police force. Can't have it both ways, guys.
Personally, I think there are details to this story that we aren't getting. The fact that they were very interested in the bilge indicates that they were looking for something. And for all the pro-druggies on this forum, I honestly don't think they were looking for your pot stash.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:35:42 PM PDT
by
livius
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; OneLoyalAmerican; CedarDave; Coastie; Delta 21; sargunner; hedgetrimmer; ...
"Seems the jackboots are out in all their goose-stepping glory..."
The MOST idiotic PING of the day!
To: Rebelbase
If/when someone asks me a somewhat less loaded question, they're a bit more likely to get a straight answer.
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:36:17 PM PDT
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
To: Ramius
It's like being fired out of a slingshot. :-) Deception Pass. And How. It's something, isn't it?? We we're just out for a little day cruise, we (illegally) moored at Allen Island just so we could hit the pass at the right time. Otherwise it's like trying to pilot a bowling ball across an ice skating rink....
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posted on
09/22/2005 4:37:51 PM PDT
by
The SISU kid
(Politicians are like Slinkies. Good for nothing. But you smile when you push them down the stairs)
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