Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Boat owners say they were fearful during Coast Guard search
The Monterey Herald ^ | September 18, 2005 | VIRGINIA HENNESSEY

Posted on 09/22/2005 2:42:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Two of the Moss Landing Harbor residents who were the subjects of random boat searches during Labor Day Weekend say their experiences were closer to armed invasions than the friendly "safety inspections" characterized by U.S. Coast Guard officials.

Both residents said search crews entered the harbor in inflatable boats with machine guns mounted on their bows. Then, carrying M-16 rifles, they approached residents and boarded and searched their boats in the name of safety and "homeland security."

One resident, who asked not to be identified for fear or retribution, said his experience was "very intimidating, very frightening."

"To me it reeks of Nazi Germany and the death squads in Argentina," he said. "I don't want my name on their list."

Scott Jones, a live-aboard resident who was searched, said there has been talk in the harbor about contacting the American Civil Liberties Union, but he first wants to hear further from the Coast Guard about its future intentions.

Lt. Mark Warren of the Monterey Coast Guard Station said he has heard mostly positive response to the operation, but may rethink future actions given current criticisms.

"We take lessons and learn from these types of operations. If the public is genuinely distasteful of it, we might not do it," he said. "I'm not saying we won't, but I'm not saying we will."

In addition to trying to ensure the safety of boats on the bay during the holiday weekend, Warren said, the operation was part of an effort to increase the public's awareness of the Coast Guard's role as a law enforcement agency under the Department of Homeland Security. He said the public might have been surprised to see weaponry that is now standard issue to all Homeland Security forces.

"I, as a U.S. citizen, am highly offended by that," said Jones, who is accustomed to Coast Guard boardings when he sails. "When a sheriff's deputy drives down the road or a CHP officer drives down the road and I see them, I'm aware of his job, and not because he's pulled me over and put a gun to my head.

"The Coast Guard's needs would be better served by an advertising campaign," he said, "rather than bullying people in their bedrooms at 10:30 at night."

Jones said he and his wife were sleeping when they were awakened by knocking on the side of the boat.

He went to the deck and was confronted by two armed officers asking if they could come aboard. Thinking something had happened in the harbor that the officers needed to talk to him about, Jones acquiesced.

"It seemed a little unreasonable at 10:30 at night," he said, "but it was the middle of the night and I was half asleep, so I said 'OK.' At this point, I looked out and saw six to eight officers (on the dock) and all appeared armed."

The officers boarded his boat and quickly spread out beyond the immediate deck without invitation, saying they were conducting a safety inspection.

"I can say with all certainly that what they did was not a safety inspection or in any way related to a safety inspection," he said. The officers demanded access to the bilge, saying they wanted to make sure the boat wasn't taking on water.

"This was highly suspect," Jones said. "If you're on board, you'd know if you were taking on water."

When Jones showed them the bilge, the officers repeatedly, and with increasing forcefulness, demanded to know if there were other accesses to the bilge. They also "demanded" the driver's licenses of everyone on board.

Increasingly upset by the nature of the search, Jones asked for the officers' authority and justification. One officer read to him from a federal code authorizing the search.

"It was either the Patriot Act or homeland security,"Jones said.

Warren said the officers would not have cited the Patriot Act because it affords the Coast Guard no additional authority.

Jones conceded he may have heard "homeland security" and registered "Patriot Act," but still feels the search was unwarranted and in a gray area of the law at best.

"I wouldn't question their professionalism, but I do question their motive and their authority," he said. "To me, it sounds like something that an ACLU lawyer would just tear apart."

Coast Guard officials say they are authorized by maritime law to board and search vessels on U.S. waters, including waters that lead to U.S. waters, to enforce federal laws.

Warren said the officers were attempting to ensure the safety and compliance of docked boats by checking for oily water in their bilges and that their sanitation devices were in locked position. Some searches were conducted at night in an effort to catch boats before they went onto the bay for the weekend.

The second boat owner who spoke to The Herald said his boat was searched after he challenged officers who were searching other boats, at 10:30 p.m. Sept. 2, and during the morning on following days. Told they were acting as Homeland Security officers, he asked what they were protecting the harbor from.

"Terrorists," he said he was told by the officers, who exhorted him to "remember the Cole," referring to the October 2000 attack by terrorists on the USS Cole that killed 17 sailors.

"The only terrorists down here are you guys," he told them. "You're scaring the hell out of me with that machine gun."

While Warren was noncommittal about future searches, he said it is important for the public to know the Coast Guard's presence will be increased.

"The Coast Guard's focus on homeland security has increased our presence on the water and will continue to increase our presence simply because that's what Congress is wanting us to do right now," he said. "The concern at the congressional level about the security of ports is pretty high."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 4a; 4thamendment; aclu; armedinvasions; boatdwellers; coastguard; donutwatch; druggielibs; fourthamendment; gwot; homelandsecurity; inspections; jackbootedthugs; jackboots; law; libertariansridiots; mosslanding; nazis; newworldorder; patriotact; searches; terrorism; terrorists; threat; trollsgalore; uscg; usscole; wodlist
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-50 ... 151-200201-250251-300 ... 651-675 next last
To: GodBlessUSA
The witness said he and his wife were both asleep. You might try reading the story before challenging the posts about it.

"Jones said he and his wife were sleeping when they were awakened by knocking on the side of the boat."

The hour suggests a safety check was the justification and that they were looking for something else. There is a difference between 6-8 pm, and after 10 pm.

An El Al security specialist said that the Transportion Department's airline security check procedure was not effective save as a system for annoying people.

Coast Guard searches like this one - late at night as opposed to 6 am - 8 pm - arouse hostility and resistance by the law-abiding, and so are detrimental to real security.

201 posted on 09/22/2005 5:10:41 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: The_Media_never_lie

At 10:30 pm that excuse does not wash. It immediately invites disbelief, derision and hostility.


202 posted on 09/22/2005 5:12:05 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: Mount Athos

Well, at least two of us agree on this. Good grief, everything from the administration is compared to Nazi's. It appears this nation learned nothing from 911, including many around this place.


203 posted on 09/22/2005 5:13:43 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Pessimist

It is a federal regulation. Marinas get complaints from neighboring landowners about violations of it.


204 posted on 09/22/2005 5:14:38 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 117 | View Replies]

To: PajamaTruthMafia; The SISU kid
Here's my new boat ... just got it last month ...


205 posted on 09/22/2005 5:15:29 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Proud member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 1972-1973)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 198 | View Replies]

To: Nov3

It's been legal since about 1792. Maybe earlier.


206 posted on 09/22/2005 5:15:36 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 125 | View Replies]

To: porkchops 4 mahound

What can I say? You SAILORS are a different breed. If I had a dollar for every sailor plucked from the ocean by the USCG I'd be a rich man. See, some of us power-boaters know you can do everything right and still be in mortal danger and there's only one organization that will assist no matter what the conditions.


207 posted on 09/22/2005 5:17:46 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 199 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Gee, this sounds like a typical day for the Florida Marine Patrol. God love em.


208 posted on 09/22/2005 5:17:50 PM PDT by firequarrel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Thud
What were the exact circumstances? The article leaves that out. I don't draw conclusions on one side of a story. Many comments are based on conjecture from comments two men made to a newspaper.
209 posted on 09/22/2005 5:20:00 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 201 | View Replies]

To: Thud
Coast Guard searches like this one - late at night as opposed to 6 am - 8 pm - arouse hostility and resistance by the law-abiding, and so are detrimental to real security.

That's also why it would not be done lightly or without a pretty good reason. There was something else going on. I don't believe that this dude's story is the whole story.

210 posted on 09/22/2005 5:23:27 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 201 | View Replies]

To: clamper1797
Nice! Formula? I own it's grandpa - 79 Formula Liberator, twin 350s with thru hull. Rebuilt her from scratch


211 posted on 09/22/2005 5:24:16 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 205 | View Replies]

To: puppypusher
The Coast Guard has a right to no-notice inspections. Normally they use it with more discretion and sense than here. It's the late at night part that has me honked off - safety and health regulations were clearly just a justification. That should happen only when they have tips from informants and grounds for believing that searching at that hour would be more productive, and I recognize from this story that such was not the case here.

The story indicates a different but still familiar pattern - somone was using his official power to express personal issues.

I supect what may be happening is that the Homeland Security Department's newness has resulted in less effective oversight of problem people.

212 posted on 09/22/2005 5:24:29 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | View Replies]

To: GodBlessUSA

10:30 pm says a lot.


213 posted on 09/22/2005 5:26:53 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies]

To: PajamaTruthMafia

Thanks ... That's a Formula Fastech 382 ... twin 500HP EFI's. GPS says I hit 81.7 MPH in it last week. I went 152 miles and burned 180 gallons of gas .... You have a very Formula too You built it ? Wow ... very nice


214 posted on 09/22/2005 5:27:06 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Proud member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 1972-1973)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 211 | View Replies]

To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Boy oh boy Tonk, this article just opened up a whole truckload of idiots.

Next they will want to disarm citizens and police officers.

Boy, I love it when stupid just shines right out in the open.

I'll bet you all the liberal beer drinkers and just out right drunks didn't think twice about doing as they were asked, an M16 and 50 Cal will do that to you, don't you know. Hell some of those low life's may even have thought to say yes sir.

Gpd bless our BRAVE troops serving here and overseas, and the people who slame them can go wallow in SH**, where they belong.


215 posted on 09/22/2005 5:28:26 PM PDT by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 178 | View Replies]

To: PajamaTruthMafia

I also have a 30 foot Magic offshore for grocery getting. It does about 75 mph but doesn't have all the creature comforts that the Formula has. The Formula has two big beds air conditioning refrig flushing john shower flat screen etc. It an 80 MPH floating condo


216 posted on 09/22/2005 5:30:51 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Proud member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 1972-1973)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 211 | View Replies]

To: porkchops 4 mahound
PLuuuuuEEEEEASsssE, can you lighten up on kissing coastie A$$?

While A$$ kissing certainly isn't required... I'm very surprised to see the level of hatred for the USCG that I've seen so far on this thread. It's discouraging.

There are few examples of any agency that does *more* with *less* and does it with uncommon professionalism, than the U.S. Coast Guard. The NYPD is a larger organization than the USCG, and they must patrol an area many thousands of times larger. Yet they seem to do a pretty damn fine job of it.

217 posted on 09/22/2005 5:31:14 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 199 | View Replies]

To: Thud

I agree. Typically, they don't board docked boats. At 10:30 at night, I think there is a very good possibility that something else is going on that's not in the story.


218 posted on 09/22/2005 5:31:33 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 213 | View Replies]

To: MRMEAN
My mother took me out once in a boat she was a partner in. I hadn't known until then that she kept sea lions out of her catch with a .270 Marlin, which was thoroughly illegal. This was 30 years ago.

The Coast Guard has many legitimate reasons for inspecting fishing boats, including for firearms.

219 posted on 09/22/2005 5:31:39 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | View Replies]

To: PajamaTruthMafia
Pard, if you had a dollar for every "sailor" the Coastguard saved you'd be eating beans, if at all.

As to "assisting no matter what the conditions", you repeat the recruiting slogan very well indeed, but we fish everyday in sea states the Coastguard will not leave port in, for any reason, even say to rescue a fisherman.

The Coastguard is a fine organization and it is full of good people doing their d@mndest for American and her people, but they do NOT walk on water and they are just humans.

But... blue water shell backs operate way beyond the range of the noble Coastie, and the bumbling boater.
220 posted on 09/22/2005 5:32:35 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Our breakaway is "Anchors Aweigh", but some of my best friends are Coasties)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 207 | View Replies]

To: Rebelbase

Exactly. Also that their problem people are no longer supervised.


221 posted on 09/22/2005 5:32:49 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 154 | View Replies]

To: The SISU kid
Yep....them dang terrorists might not have their "head" devices locked into position.....

Or they may have oily bilge buildup

222 posted on 09/22/2005 5:32:54 PM PDT by ninonitti
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Ramius

Something else was going on. See No. 154.


223 posted on 09/22/2005 5:35:03 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 159 | View Replies]

To: porkchops 4 mahound

What happened... a coastie run off with your girlfriend or something? :-)


224 posted on 09/22/2005 5:35:12 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 220 | View Replies]

To: clamper1797

SWEEEEEEEEET!

Yes, she's a Formula Liberator (If you read Formula's history on it's web page they mention this boat). I completely gutted it and rebuilt it from scratch with my own two hands over 4 years. She's my pride and joy... The pic is old and needs updating.


225 posted on 09/22/2005 5:35:16 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 214 | View Replies]

To: Thud
One last thing, In the article Jones says, "I wouldn't question their professionalism, but I do question their motive and their authority," he said. "To me, it sounds like something that an ACLU lawyer would just tear apart."

He wouldn't question their professionalism. So it's apparent they were not rude nasty or the Nazis, not you, but some on this thread have suggested.

226 posted on 09/22/2005 5:35:30 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 219 | View Replies]

To: Ramius

I knew one like that, but he was the only one. The rest I liked a lot.


227 posted on 09/22/2005 5:37:22 PM PDT by Thud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 167 | View Replies]

To: Thud

154... I don't think so.

I think its just some dude that got busted some time back... and now he's got it in for the coasties.


228 posted on 09/22/2005 5:37:52 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 223 | View Replies]

To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Waking people up at 10:30 PM and coming armed on their boat for a "safety" search sure sounds jack-booted to me.


229 posted on 09/22/2005 5:40:03 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 178 | View Replies]

To: porkchops 4 mahound

Tell that to all the fishermen saved by the USCG during the "Perfect Storm"

http://www.uscg.mil/news/PerfectStorm/Realstorm.html

Gee, I wonder how they got all those videos?


230 posted on 09/22/2005 5:41:24 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 220 | View Replies]

To: PajamaTruthMafia; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
there's only one organization that will assist no matter what the conditions.

Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

You got that right!

231 posted on 09/22/2005 5:42:38 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Its only funny till someone gets hurt, Then its HILARIOUS.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 207 | View Replies]

To: semaj
I wonder if the Coasties pull this kind of shit on Martha's Vineyard?

The short answer is no. I'm on the water alot there and have yet to see a rifle or machine gun on any of the Menemsha Station guys. Sidearms yes.

I just got back from Seattle and I did see a hardbottom zodiac with a machine gun mounted on the bow in Everett harbor.....maybe it's a west coast thing.

232 posted on 09/22/2005 5:43:22 PM PDT by ninonitti
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: DLfromthedesert
sure sounds jack-booted to me.

Absolutely! Druggies need their beauty sleep! Enforcement of laws should simply shut down at night. Too dark and scary to be out at night.

Yeesh.

233 posted on 09/22/2005 5:44:08 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 229 | View Replies]

To: All
More information from here.

Posted on Tue, Sep. 06, 2005

Coast Guard raids moored harbor vessels

By VIRGINIA HENNESSEY Herald Staff Writer

The Coast Guard boarded and inspected close to 30 vessels, many of them docked, in Monterey Bay over the Labor Day weekend in a operation that raised the eyebrows of some local boaters and the ire of one.

The operation -- conducted in conjunction with the Monterey County Sheriff's Office, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration -- netted one arrest in Moss Landing Harbor and terminated the voyages of five vessels that were deemed unsafe.

In all, 28 boats, many of them live-aboard vessels that were moored in the harbors, were boarded and 31 citations were issued. One angry boater said Coast Guard officers came aboard his boat in Moss Landing Harbor late Friday citing authority under the Patriot Act.

In an e-mail to The Herald, Lowell Jones of Moss Landing said the Coast Guard did a "blanket boarding" in the harbor, "searching boats, and invading people's privacy at 10:30 p.m. They justified this intrusion by citing the Patriot Act.

"The locals are not happy, and the boating community as a whole has expressed concerns over privacy relating to such dockside boardings of legal live-aboard residents," he wrote.

Coast Guard officials said the operation was not in response to any particular law enforcement report and that search warrants are not required for such inspections.

"It wasn't a drill. But it wasn't in response to any Homeland Security threat we received," said Gabriel Flesher, chief of the Coast Guard's San Francisco division, which oversees Homeland Security issues in the area. "The exercise was developed as a random operation with local law enforcement agencies (and) we have the authority to board dockside."

Lt. Todd Moe of the Coast Guard's Monterey division said the operation was directed at boating safety during the busiest boating weekend of the year and was authorized under maritime law dating to the 1700s, which gives the Coast Guard jurisdiction over federal waters, including waterways that lead to the open seas.

Jon Copley, chief of the Coast Guard's law enforcement division in San Francisco, said he would be "very surprised" if one of the agency's officers cited the Patriot Act.

The U.S. Code allows the Coast Guard to "make inquiries, examinations, inspections, searches, seizures, and arrests upon the high seas and waters over which the United States has jurisdiction, for the prevention, detection, and suppression of violations of laws of the United States. For such purposes, commissioned, warrant, and petty officers may at any time go on board of any vessel subject to the jurisdiction... of the United States, address inquiries to those on board, examine the ship's documents and papers, and examine, inspect, and search the vessel and use all necessary force to compel compliance."

Moe said "99 percent of the feedback" he'd received was positive and that the operation resulted in the safest Labor Day on record on the Monterey Bay. The Coast Guard was called out to only one incident.

Safety violations that were cited included boats lacking floatation and fire-extinguishing devices and proper documentation. Moe said he did not know the identity of the one man who was arrested by the Sheriff's Office possession of marijuana and an illegal weapon. The deputies involved in the arrest were not available on Tuesday.

Harbormasters in Monterey, Moss Landing and Santa Cruz said they were not notified in advance of the operation. Moss Landing Harbormaster Linda McIntyre said she supports the Coast Guard's efforts to improve safety on the bay, but added that she'd never known the agency to do "door-to-door" inspections of docked vessels.

She said she had received complaints by some residents, but heard others praise the guard.

Monterey Harbormaster Steve Scheiblauer said in his 30 years as a harbormaster in Monterey and Santa Cruz, he'd never heard of any law enforcement agency randomly searching vessels being used as homes. Like several other harbormasters, Scheiblauer was under the impression the Coast Guard's blanket boarding authorization applied only to vessels that were underway.

"That is, on the face of it, pretty preposterous. They can board boats when they're underway. But when a boat is tied up, particularly as a residence, I don't think there's any probable cause to go aboard and search. As a random search, that would be very controversial, I would think, among the public."

Kimbra Eldridge, operations manager of the Santa Cruz Harbor, said her agency does not board boats "unless we have a particular cause."

Reports of the Coast Guard's operation also came as a surprise to Eric Endersby, chief harbor patrol officer in Morro Bay Harbor.

"The Coast Guard has the authority to board any vessel that's underway," he said. "But boats in slips are not underway and my understanding was the Coast Guard didn't have authority to board a boat that's tied up in a slip."

"That's a little scary," he added.

Andy Turpin, senior editor at Latitude 38, a widely read sailing magazine in Marin County, said Coast Guard boardings in the San Francisco Bay Area were an "accepted annoyance."

"It's common to be boarded and it's something you have to put up with," he said.

The practice was even more common during the height of the "zero tolerance" drug wars, he said, but even then, the Coast Guard did not randomly board docked boats.

"I have never heard of that happening up here," he said. "Before 9/11, when they had a little more time on their hands, they would come to a marina and offer free safety inspections and give you a sticker to keep you from being boarded on your Sunday sail."

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Virginia Hennessey can be reached at 646-4355 or vhennessey@montereyherald.com

234 posted on 09/22/2005 5:44:28 PM PDT by Gardener
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 226 | View Replies]

To: porkchops 4 mahound

Blue Water Golden Shellback Bump


235 posted on 09/22/2005 5:44:38 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Its only funny till someone gets hurt, Then its HILARIOUS.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 220 | View Replies]

To: MarineBrat
I'd probably treat it as if I were at an air show and thankful to have the opportunity to see some of the cool hardware my tax dollars are paying for.

Yeah and maybe they can quarter some troops at your house!

236 posted on 09/22/2005 5:44:49 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 175 | View Replies]

To: Ramius

And where did you get the info that these people were druggies?

Should they search YOUR house at night while you are trying to sleep?


237 posted on 09/22/2005 5:46:21 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 233 | View Replies]

To: aShepard
I don't believe there's any regs that allow federal officers to enforce a state or local law regarding human waste discharge.

Probably not - but not to worry they're called federal waters too.

238 posted on 09/22/2005 5:46:48 PM PDT by ninonitti
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: The_Media_never_lie
I think we may not know the whole story. These guys may have earned a spot on sombody's watch list. Maybe the guy is a smart A and this is payback.

Those LE officers who do their job well earn my respect. I'll admit it.

Hey slick you evidently think this is doing their job well.

Pitiful plum piiiitiful.

If you were around in 1776 you would be for the British.

239 posted on 09/22/2005 5:48:02 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 137 | View Replies]

To: porkchops 4 mahound
blue water shell backs operate way beyond the range of the noble Coastie

There are plenty of Coastie shellbacks, golden dragons, and golden shellbacks. Perhaps you're not familiar with where the larger cutters go. ...and unlike their Navy counterparts... they go alone. :-)

240 posted on 09/22/2005 5:50:34 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 220 | View Replies]

To: Ramius

I see that you are a kindred soul of the distressed boater in the main article.

Where is there HATE for the Coastguard in any of my comments? (Those other folks just hate "JBT"/LEOs no matter what uniform they wear.)

I am an ex-USN Bluewater Shellback.

I operated with Coasties in Vietnam.

I've fished all commercial species of Alaska, from Dixon Entrance to the Slime Bank, to the Chukchi Sea, Kings and Opilio Crabs out of Dutch Harbor in November, to drifting 100 fathoms in the Kuskokwim in the summer.

I know the Coastguard, and they know me.

Hate has nothing to do with it.

But quit trying to blow Coastie recruiting smoke up my kilt.

Inter-service rivalry seems to distress some of the little ol civilian ladies who have nothing else to worry about.

I regret that, deeply.


241 posted on 09/22/2005 5:51:38 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Our breakaway is "Anchors Aweigh", but some of my best friends are Coasties. Not hyperbole)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 217 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
One resident, who asked not to be identified for fear or retribution, said his experience was "very intimidating, very frightening." "To me it reeks of Nazi Germany and the death squads in Argentina," he said. "I don't want my name on their list."

Yes, I'm sure it was JUST like that...


242 posted on 09/22/2005 5:52:57 PM PDT by Jim Noble (In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DLfromthedesert

I'm not saying these people were druggies. I don't know. There's a lot we don't know about this story. But if there were some reason to conduct the boarding, should they just let them sleep in?


243 posted on 09/22/2005 5:52:58 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 237 | View Replies]

To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

22 1/2 years in and it still doesnt suprise me that the majority of people have absolutly no idea what the Coast Guard does on a daily basis.


244 posted on 09/22/2005 5:53:19 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Its only funny till someone gets hurt, Then its HILARIOUS.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 178 | View Replies]

To: Ramius

see post #241

reapply as needed


245 posted on 09/22/2005 5:57:52 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Our breakaway is "Anchors Aweigh", but some of my best friends are Coasties. Not hyperbole)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 224 | View Replies]

To: PajamaTruthMafia

see post #241

reapply as needed


246 posted on 09/22/2005 5:58:46 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Our breakaway is "Anchors Aweigh", but some of my best friends are Coasties. Not hyperbole)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 230 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

247 posted on 09/22/2005 5:59:42 PM PDT by bitt ('It is a good thing the Commander in Chief is tough as nails.' (FR))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Delta 21

Back at cha brother.


248 posted on 09/22/2005 6:00:15 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Our breakaway is "Anchors Aweigh", but some of my best friends are Coasties.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 235 | View Replies]

To: porkchops 4 mahound

I don't know that there's HATE in your comments specifically, but there certainly is on this thread.

I think the coasties in this story are being unfairly painted and I'm rising to their defense. That's all.

I too have spent a lot of time in the gulf of Alaska, the Bering and above the arctic circle. I've been to Dutch, and St Paul, and Adak and lots of other places. I know what an eighty foot wave looks like up close and personal. :-)


249 posted on 09/22/2005 6:02:19 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 241 | View Replies]

To: The_Media_never_lie
The Coast Guard has the right to board any vessel, anytime

There once was another group that felt the same way, but they at least were honest about it. They flew the "Jolly Roger".

Perhaps the coast guard should readopt this old symbol.

250 posted on 09/22/2005 6:03:00 PM PDT by metalurgist (Death to the democrats! They're almost the same as communists, they just move a little slower.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-50 ... 151-200201-250251-300 ... 651-675 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson