Skip to comments.Pro Life And Pro Death Penalty (Rush Limbaugh Institute For Advanced Conservative Studies Alert)
Posted on 09/22/2005 9:09:31 PM PDT by goldstategop
RUSH: Here is Cher in Tampa, Florida. Welcome, Cher. Nice to have you on the program.
CALLER: Hi, Rush. It's nice to talk to you.
CALLER: This guy that called a few minutes ago aggravated me so much. I listen to you on the road all the time, but this guy just warranted a call talking about the differences, "How can we be against abortion and for the death penalty?"
RUSH: Cher, Cher, Cher, Cher, Cher. Remember my advice? Don't argue with an idiot because people will not be able to tell the difference.
CALLER: I tell you, I just don't understand how people cannot see the difference between an innocent child and a murderer.
RUSH: You don't have to say this, everybody does. I'm telling you, this did not require any argument or debate. It didn't. I understand your outrage. You need to learn to be happy when this stuff happens. You need to learn to be happy when these people are willing to announce what they believe and how they lie about what we believe or what they stupidly believe we believe, whatever it is, but this is a new reason to celebrate. I know it's tough. I know it's tough to celebrate this --
CALLER: It's aggravating.
RUSH: Yeah, it's aggravating. It's offensive, but it's stupid.
CALLER: It really is.
RUSH: It's absolutely stupid. It's literally stupid.
CALLER: Well, it's not the only stupid thing he said, but that one just really stuck out. People can't actually -- you're hearing that more and more in the press, that comparison, and it's just -- they can't truly believe everybody is that stupid.
RUSH: Look it. The way I look at it, if that's the best the guy could come up with, they're hopeless anyway. Pro-life and pro-death? I mean, abortion and the death penalty is a... I'll take this one on because I do get this one a lot. People who are on the cusp, just learning about politics, just learning to follow the ebb and flow, and they want to get it right, and they don't quite know who to listen to and who not to listen to, people on both sides sound persuasive, and this is a question that I do get frequently. "Rush, how do you explain the fact that you are pro-life, anti-abortion, but you're pro-death penalty?" And that to me is a softball hanging curve waiting to be knocked out of the park. Here's the answer. Why am I pro-life? Because life in the womb is the essence of innocence. The utter essence of innocence. Somebody who is to be put to death, not only does the Bible talk about it, not only does our Constitution talk about it (when they say nobody should be denied the right to life, liberty, pursuit the happiness without due process) someone who is condemned to death in this country has been judged by a jury of his peers and 14 years minimum of appeals, to have committed atrocious, unspeakable acts of mayhem and murder on at least another citizen and sometimes multiple citizens. There's nothing innocent whatsoever, and in terms of a just punishment, it fits.
People say, "Well, what about the deterrent factor?"
I don't care whether it deters anybody or not. I never looked at punishment of crime as a deterrent. I look at it as a punishment. But the whole argument fails when somebody wants to try to compare the utter essence of innocence that is a baby in the womb to a convicted murderer? That's why I say, had I engaged this caller this way, it would not have registered because, understand that you're not dealing with people who are acting on thoughts. It's pure raw emotion, and in most cases it's hatred and rage, and you have to understand this about them, too. They insulate themselves from these intellectual arguments and discussions by telling themselves they're superior to everybody else. They know more, that they're elitists, they've got a better handle on things and if we don't see it their way we're just unenlightened, we're just hopelessly stupid and dumb, reactionary racist, sexist, bigot homophobic, whatever. It's just the exact opposite. They're the bigots, they're the closed-minded ones, they're the intolerant ones, they're the ones that are incapable of thought and as such if we want to start talking about who's superior and inferior they clearly are the inferior, and to get beyond that, again, they tell themselves that they're of lofty heights and we just can't possibly understand them so it's pointless for them to even engage us.
RUSH: Remember this, folks. When defining the difference between liberals and conservatives, particularly on a matter of life, liberals fight to the end to protect convicted murderers. We fight to the end to protect innocent, unborn babies. They favor bureaucracies and we favor people. They think they have the moral high ground when they ask the silly question, "Well, what about the death penalty? If you're so pro-life, what about the death penalty?" Truly, folks, a sad bunch of mental midgets, glittering jewels of colossal ignorance who think they light up the universe with their intellect.
Remember this, folks. When defining the difference between liberals and conservatives, particularly on a matter of life, liberals fight to the end to protect convicted murderers. We fight to the end to protect innocent, unborn babies.
Its really that's simple. The difference between depravity and innocence. Its the values, stupid. The Left thinks they're a smart bunch so they talk down to us and accuse us of being inconsistent. They're the ones who are inconsistent! If you want to talk about colossal ignorance as Dr. Rush says in his capacity as head of the Institute For Advanced Conservative Studies, just look at liberals. They have brains but not the ideas to along with them.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
I listened to this segment live today and it was one of Rash's greatest moments
Rash's = Rush's
This is why the term "pro-life" needs to be revised. I am pro-death when it comes to murderers (this includes abortionists) and probably rapists, but pro-life for everyone else. I think most "pro-lifers" feel this way, and are sickened at this repeated idiot question, "How can you be pro-life and support the death penalty?" It's the same talking point that the Left has used for years.
This reminded me of a rant Robin Williams had a few years back in which he attempted to do a one man skit of confronting someone who is pro life if they would take in a "crack baby". The only trouble is most abortions are performed on healthy non addicted feti. Truth trumps propaganda every time.
Reminds me of a PJ O'Rourke quote, and I am paraphrasing. "I can see the logic of being anti-death penelty and anti-abortion, or being pro-death penalty or pro-abortion, but it takes a lifetime of therapy to reach the liberal positon of killing babies and saving muderers.
Society is protecting the lives of innocent others when a murderer is put to death.
I'm glad to see what seems to be a slight change in policy for Rush. The stakes are too high at this point in our history to suffer fools. He could have sliced and diced the original caller, and it would have been entertaining radio. But I like this approach at this point in time. The left is so wacky that there are still plenty of laughs to be had.
Just reverse their insidious question, and ask them: "How can you be pro-life for convicted murderers and pro-death for unblemished, adorable babies?
Worth a repeat.
I remember being in the 8th grade in a Catholic school in Brooklyn. We had to have a debate in class. The topic was abortion. My group was on the anti abortion side. I knew in 8th grade what was right. These morons dont know, at all ages. Liberals and other pro-choice( pro infanticide ) are loons.
I always use this question when I am confronted by Liberals in a roundtable discussion at the kitchen table. It always stymies them.
It makes perfect sense to be both pro life and pro death penalty. I'm for the death penalty purely out of respect for life. When the death penalty was instituted in Gen. 9.6, God said, "Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed, For in the image of God He made man."
Were man not made in the image of God, his life would be worth no more than that of a alligator, but out of respect for man's life, we have the death penalty.