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McCain Clueless on Impact of McCain/Feingold (on the Internet and bloggers)
Patterico Pontifications ^ | September 21, 2005 | Patterico

Posted on 09/23/2005 7:56:49 AM PDT by OESY

Oh, Lord. John McCain doesn’t even know what his own law is doing.

Paul from Power Line reports on a dinner he and about 40 others had with John McCain. Here’s what I found interesting:

I asked Senator McCain about the impact of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform act on bloggers. He replied that he wanted no government regulation of the internet. I followed-up, politely I hope, by noting that a court decision in litigation undertaken in his name was serving as the basis for proposals to regulate the bloggers. McCain responded that he was not aware that the litigation had raised the prospect of internet regulation, and that he would look into the matter. He then reaffirmed that there should be absolutely no regulation of the internet in the name of McCain-Feingold or campaign finance reform.

The whole purpose of the litigation in question was to reverse the FEC’s exemption of the Internet from regulation under the BCRA. McCain and Feingold both supported the litigation, which resulted in a decision overturning the FEC and setting the stage for FEC regulation of the Internet.

McCain and Feingold were clearly aware of the purpose of the litigation. After a former FEC commissioner warned of the prospect that blogs could be regulated, McCain and Feingold issued a joint statement saying that, while the Internet would be regulated, speech by private citizens on the Internet would (supposedly) not be. Russ Feingold even blogged about it.

In light of this history, it’s an odd statement — to say the least — for McCain to claim that he “was not aware that the litigation had raised the prospect of internet regulation.” Even the prospect? And Sen. McCain believes that there should be absolutely no regulation of the Internet under McCain/Feingold?

This is so far off base that either Paul must have quoted McCain inaccurately, or McCain is the biggest space cadet on the planet.

UPDATE: Thanks to Michelle Malkin for the link, and welcome to Michelle’s readers. The main page is here; I hope you’ll bookmark it and return often.

UPDATE x2: Bloggers interested in this issue should consider taking my free speech pledge. If you’re interested, e-mail me at patterico AT patterico DOT com and send me the link to your blog post that takes the pledge.

UPDATE x3: Paul at PowerLine reacts to my post, and says that McCain clearly meant “bloggers” when he said “Internet”:

I was not taking notes while McCain spoke, so I couldn’t quote him verbatim, and did not purport to. That said, I have no doubt that McCain stated twice that he opposed government regulation of the internet under McCain-Feingold. However, in the context of my question, which was about bloggers specifically, McCain may well have meant, more precisely, that he opposed regulation of bloggers.

As to his lawsuit, it is clear to me that McCain did not understand the potential impact on bloggers of the judge’s decision. Indeed, he was candid enough to admit this, after several leading journalists confirmed my statement that the ruling in his case opened the door to possible regulation of bloggers. However, I don’t think the Senator intended to convey that he was unaware that his lawsuit had implications for the internet. I believe it was a case of him using the word internet when he meant bloggers, and I should have said so in my report.

Finally, having listened to Senator McCain answer questions on a wide range of subjects for about an hour at the end of a very long day, I can say for certain that he is no space cadet.

This makes a little more sense to me; it would be simply bizarre for McCain to claim that he had no idea that the litigation would raise the prospect of regulating the Internet.

But even if it is taken as referring only to bloggers, it still seems like an odd statement. I could understand if McCain had said that he had heard some people say that the legislation would impact bloggers, but he disagreed. But to say that he was not even aware that the litigation had raised that prospect — I’m sorry, but I find that astounding.

Please tell me: am I wrong about this??

P.S. By the way, I didn’t mean to claim that Paul was quoting McCain verbatim. This should have been clear from the context. My post above fully quotes the relevant portion of Paul’s post, which obviously paraphrased McCain’s comments and did not contain quotation marks around McCain’s statements. My use of quotation marks later in the post was to show that I was again quoting Paul’s post. Hopefully nobody was misled; again, I think the context makes it clear. But I thought I should add this postscript, just in case it wasn’t.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloggers; campaignfinance; electionreform; fec; firstamendment; freespeech; internet; mccainfeingold

1 posted on 09/23/2005 7:56:49 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

"Oh, Lord. John McCain doesn’t even know what his own law is doing"

So what else is new?

McCain destroyed the S&L industry and caused a 500 BILLION dollar bailout in his last major peice of legislation. He now referes to it as "his little mistake".

The man does not belong in the Senata of the United States.


2 posted on 09/23/2005 8:01:10 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

Such is the bane of liberal legislation...who cares about the effects the law has? Libs say things like: Our "intentions" were pure, and we can sleep at night knowing we did something. Don't give us feedback on the consequences of our heinous laws.


3 posted on 09/23/2005 8:04:16 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: OESY
McPain is the biggest republican disaster with presidential ambitions since Gerald Ford, he is a mental case and an idiot. If elected, the second Amendment goes down the drain, And his demon-rat pals ascend to power, even if they remain in the minority. I dread the next election like a trip to hades...
4 posted on 09/23/2005 8:04:28 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly (!...The Confederate States of America rises again...!)
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To: OESY
it’s an odd statement — to say the least — for McCain to claim that he “was not aware that the litigation had raised the prospect of internet regulation.”

John McCain is a liar. There is nothing "straight talk" about him.

5 posted on 09/23/2005 8:06:08 AM PDT by Bahbah (Praying for those in the path of Rita)
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To: OESY

"Ace" has never been known for his intelligence. Come to think of it, what is John McCain known for?


6 posted on 09/23/2005 8:06:35 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: OESY
McCain Clueless on Impact of McCain/Feingold (on the Internet and bloggers)

There, that's better.

7 posted on 09/23/2005 8:08:16 AM PDT by Thom Pain (I am anti-war, too. Destroy the terrorists & their supporters before we have war here!)
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To: DJ Taylor

mccrock...er...cain....doesnt get bloggers?

well he is old :P
maybe this crazy internet thing will go away :D


maybe he can side with the dims(again) and propose a net tax


8 posted on 09/23/2005 8:09:06 AM PDT by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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To: OESY

I'd like to see that a**hole go back to Vietnam, but the VC probably have more sense than to let him screw up their country.


9 posted on 09/23/2005 8:10:30 AM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: OESY

If you know, he knows.


10 posted on 09/23/2005 8:13:51 AM PDT by street_lawyer
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To: OESY
He and Orrin Hatch sound like they'd work well together. Hatch had the brilliant idea of the computer industry developing technology in computers capable of "destroying" peoples' PCs who downloaded music illegally. He was asked what would happen if the technology was somehow developed and implemented, and then some bad guys figured out how to enable it on anybody's computer (think a 1000 times worse than a virus or a trojan), and he blew it off.

Unfortunately, McCain and many other Republicans probably wouldn't care if sites like Free Republic had to be taken offline or moved out of the country.

Wouldn't it be ironic if a site like Free Republican had to be setup outside of the USA?
11 posted on 09/23/2005 8:16:18 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: edcoil
The man does not belong in the Senate of the United States.

Probably two-thirds of them don't belong there. (I'm being charitable with this figure.) The disgusting display of cluelessness at the Roberts hearings should put everybody on notice.

THESE are the best thing America can offer as "elder statesmen"?

12 posted on 09/23/2005 8:19:21 AM PDT by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: street_lawyer
If you know, he knows.

Nice summary, which is the point of the essay, quoted below:

In light of this history, it’s an odd statement — to say the least — for McCain to claim that he “was not aware that the litigation had raised the prospect of internet regulation.”
13 posted on 09/23/2005 8:28:05 AM PDT by OESY
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To: edcoil
The man [McCain] does not belong in the Senate of the United States.

Bears repeating. McCain may not be a "Space Cadet", but he has been the launch pad for a lot of harmful laws.

14 posted on 09/23/2005 8:37:19 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: thulldud
The disgusting display of cluelessness at the Roberts hearings should put everybody on notice.

That we're doomed.

15 posted on 09/23/2005 8:40:29 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: All

McCain is clueless about everything, what's new? I will NEVER cast a vote for this person, will sit out the election before I vote for this self aggrandizing POS


16 posted on 09/23/2005 9:04:55 AM PDT by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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To: OESY

Anus in the Morning and Chris Mathews want a threesome with this guy.


17 posted on 09/23/2005 12:19:42 PM PDT by lormand (George W. Bush is saving your ass, whether you like it or not.)
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To: OESY; All

McCain is just plain CLUELESS!

When are the people of AZ going to get a clue!


18 posted on 09/23/2005 1:56:20 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: af_vet_rr

Sadly, the RIAA and MPAA have gone and developed such a program anyway. Now it "merely" deletes any mp3s and movies you may have on your machine, rather than just blowing it up entirely.


19 posted on 09/23/2005 8:56:33 PM PDT by Terpfen (http://www.pattonhq.com/unknowntext.html)
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