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1 posted on 09/24/2005 1:13:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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"Can any American city empty itself safely and quickly?"

No.

2 posted on 09/24/2005 1:15:29 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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I have taken 12 hours to drive from Houston to Dallas many times on the Thanksgiving holiday. This evacuation was remarkable and it will now be spun into a crisis that has to be fixed.
3 posted on 09/24/2005 1:17:38 PM PDT by Texasforever
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Obviously, we need to install a vacuum-tube system like at banks to "chute" entire families out of town. Just drop the tube in the slot, hit "send," and chute yourself to the city of your choice.


5 posted on 09/24/2005 1:20:37 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Considering this is the biggest evacuation ever attempted in US history, we didn't do too bad.


6 posted on 09/24/2005 1:21:08 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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In Galveston County along the Gulf, authorities set up three evacuation zones, beginning Wednesday evening and staggered at eight-hour intervals, with the most outlying areas to be the first to leave. But people in all three zones left early anyway, further snarling traffic.

Not one word about this from the lame stream media. They want to be able to blame the traffic jams on Texas officials. Won't do for the public to start seeing the difference in Texas and LA. They just have to find something to make Texas look bad. One info babe asked an official in Beaumont this morning how many looters did they have. He said none. No looters. She looked absolutely shocked. Instead of asking him IF they had any looters, she asks how many looters they had. I despise the media.

7 posted on 09/24/2005 1:22:34 PM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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Pittsburgh could empty itself pretty quickly, unless the evacuation was on a weekend. They usually close some of the inbound and outbound parkway lanes for paving. Honestly, unless you own a hovercraft, no one is leaving Pittsburgh in an orderly or timely fashion.


8 posted on 09/24/2005 1:26:23 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (You should post without reading once a day. If my post makes no sense, I am filling my quota.)
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It only took me six hours to get from League City to Austin.

Of course I left before noon on Wednesday. My employer reseased folks at noon., but if you hit the road promptly, you still would have beat the crush out of the evacuation areas.

The problem was made worse by nimrods in safe areas of Houston (Katy, Cypress, the Heights, the Woodlands, etc) that decided to leave for Dallas or Austin. Once you are fifty or so miles inland you are just as safe staying at home (assuming you do not live in a mobile home) as you are in Dallas or Austin. A tornado is just as likely to take the roof off the evacuation center you are in as off your house.


9 posted on 09/24/2005 1:26:26 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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I give the fine people of the Great State of Texas two thumbs up! Their kindness towards the LA people after Katrina will never be forgotten. IMO: The evacuation ran like clockwork as compared to the bumbling Gov. Blanco & the inept Mayor of NOLA ! No buracracy is perfect , however this was a wide scale evacuation, they saved many lives.
11 posted on 09/24/2005 1:27:04 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland
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This is why I think the Federal government should provide everyone with their own personal jetpack.


15 posted on 09/24/2005 1:30:23 PM PDT by frankjr
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Jackson-Lee will use this to pimp for more government spending.

Perry will use this to pimp for his Trans-Texas Corridor.


34 posted on 09/24/2005 1:46:25 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Austin TX - and staying put.)
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Texas rocked.
They identified problems in their plan and are correcting some of them for the return trip.
One day turn around.
Nice job Lone Star.
41 posted on 09/24/2005 1:56:21 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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I am sick of uninvolved detached Monday morning quarterbacks, especially from idjits in northeast la, la, land.

Winter is coming, smug and pontificating, self aggrandizing, New England & NYC liberal types may get their comeuppance. A bad winter with many feet of snow and bitter cold could give them a real jolt of reality. If so, I for one have my answer ready for them and theirs; I could care less, where were your plans, why didn't you implement them, in short, go pound sand jerk offs.

47 posted on 09/24/2005 2:01:31 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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"Panicked" drivers? I didn't see anyone panicking. You don't have to panic if you plan and act BEFORE the disaster.

Then there's this: In an age of terrorist danger and with memories of the nightmare in New Orleans still fresh, the Texas exodus raises a troubling question: Can any American city empty itself safely and quickly?

NO, DUMBASS. That's the whole point those of us spouting off about logistics since LA screwed up Katrina so bad have been trying to make to you morons in the press.

68 posted on 09/24/2005 2:35:47 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect.)
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What we need to do is to get somebody to invent one of them teleporter things that they have in "Star Trek." I'm sure this will be very expensive so just mass produce them so that we can achieve some semblance of economy of scale. At that point, these teleporters should be affordable to most families.

Then the next time some sort of hurricane hits, everybody can just teleport to some other city that is unaffected by the hurricane.

Teleportation is the answer. Either that, or build super-wide highways that are about a half mile wide. Wasn't Texas talking about building some of these wide roads?

70 posted on 09/24/2005 2:36:56 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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"There were some weaknesses," Texas Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, a Democrat...

Put her at the top of that list...

89 posted on 09/24/2005 3:15:26 PM PDT by Libloather (Educating Murrymom - one post at a time...)
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Associated Press writers Kristen Hays in Houston, Liz Austin in Austin and Suzanne Gamboa in Washington, National Writer Matt Crenson in New York and photographer Paul Sancya contributed to this story.

Side issue, but why does it take so many AP writers to complete a story?

110 posted on 09/24/2005 3:50:23 PM PDT by meyer (The DNC prefers advancing the party at the expense of human lives.)
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"Houston, we have a problem". I know everybody thinks of that line in that Tom Hanks movie about NASA moon trip and that's fine and dandy I guess when folks are thinking about Houston, TX, but me? Heck no, I CAN'T STOP SINGING THAT RONNIE MILSAP TUNE ABOUT HOUSTON AND ITS DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!! (Houston Solution) LOL

I HAVE SOME FRIENDS DOWN IN HOUSTON
WHO KNOW ME QUITE WELL
THEY'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY
TO PUT ME UP FOR A SPELL
I CAN HANG OUT, OR HIDE OUT
WHICHEVER I CHOOSE
AND THEY WON'T ASK ME QUESTIONS
NOT WHILE I'VE GOT THE BLUES

I GOTTA HOUSTON SOLUTION IN MIND
ALL IT TAKES IS A CALL ON THE TELEPHONE LINE
I CAN LEAVE ALL THESE PROBLEMS IN NASHVILLE BEHIND
I GOTTA HOUSTON SOLUTION IN MIND

Love that Ronnie Milsap. Anybody heard anything about him lately?


123 posted on 09/24/2005 4:03:01 PM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
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You and the media don't need to worry about us, we can do that. If there is a dirty bomb attack, worry where you will get gas for a couple of years since the mid west, east, and far west are too good to refine their own.


124 posted on 09/24/2005 4:03:38 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (Houston - Showing New Orleans how it's done.)
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From Houston, the main roads out of town -- Interstate 10 to San Antonio, I-45 to Dallas, and U.S. Highway 290 to Austin -- were turned into one-way thoroughfares only Thursday, and even then the one-way flow began well outside Houston.

290 WAS NOT turned into a one-way thoroughfare.

That plan was announced at 8am but 9 hours later they balked on the decision. They said that it was problematic (the traffic turn in Brenham) and that they wanted to keep the inbound to Houston side open for supplies (which from what I saw was nothing but buses, Houston STILL has a gas shortage nearly a week later).

And they left hundreds of buses in Cy Fair to send buses down from Austin.

The sheer longest part of the journey was just getting out of Houston. That took 12 hours.

Millions saw Mayor White fumble the ball.

154 posted on 09/26/2005 10:39:34 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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And Hempstead closed their town to the travellers (and horded what gas they had).

The sheriffs blocked the entrances to their small town.

That can't be legal.

Someone's job should be lost over that "emergency" act of isolationism.


155 posted on 09/26/2005 10:41:25 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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