Posted on 09/26/2005 10:31:48 PM PDT by Bonaparte
Daughter of lesbian couple expelled By Mason Stockstill, Staff Writer ONTARIO - A Chino couple plans to picket a Christian school in Ontario on Monday because officials expelled their daughter after learning her parents are lesbians. Tina Clark said the superintendent of Ontario Christian High School gave her a letter explaining that 14-year-old freshman Shay Clark was being kicked out because her parents' sexual orientation is "inconsistent with a positive Christian life style." "My sexual orientation should have nothing to do with her getting an education," Tina Clark said. "I'm the one that's gay. My daughter's not. Why should her civil rights be infringed?" Shay was crushed by what happened earlier this week, which she said came as a surprise. "I knew that I might have problems," Shay said. "But I never thought it would go that far." Principal Tim Hoekstra and Superintendent Len Stob did not return repeated calls Thursday and Friday seeking comment. Phone calls to several school trustees also were not returned. Clark and her partner, Mitzi Gray, have been together for 22 years. They didn't expect Shay would experience discrimination at the school because her older sister had attended Ontario Christian schools from sixth through ninth grade. Additionally, Shay said her friends knew she lived in a home with two mothers, and "it was never a problem." On Tuesday, however, that changed. Gray said when she went to an unrelated parent meeting that Clark was unable to attend, school administrators were confused by her different last name. The next day, both women were called in and asked point-blank if they were gay, Clark said. When they said they were, Shay was expelled. "These are the same people that patted me on the back the Friday before that and asked me how my week had gone," Clark said. The family's situation is not unusual, said Johnny Chagolla of the Rainbow Pride Youth Alliance, a gay-rights organization in San Bernardino. Often, he said, students at religious schools are more likely to face discrimination. "In cases like this, there's a concern," Chagolla said. "A lot of (religious school officials) say they're very open and affirming, and then you see this, and it contradicts what they're saying." A similar situation arose earlier this year at a Catholic school in Costa Mesa, when parents pressured administrators into barring gay parents after a gay couple enrolled their twin sons at the school. Ontario Christian is affiliated with the Christian Reformed Church, a denomination that considers homosexuality a "condition of disordered sexuality," according to the Web site of the Christian Reformed Church of North America. The church considers the act of homosexual sex to be a sin, which "must be condemned as incompatible with obedience to the will of God as revealed in scripture." However, according to the group's Web site, the church should help gay Christians and "give them support toward healing and wholeness." As the family gathered outside the school for a news conference Friday, students and staff peered at the scene out of the windows. Receptionist Cory Overstreet said administrators would not be available to comment. According to the letter signed by Stob, school officials were not aware of Clark and Gray's relationship at the time Shay was admitted. But both women said that question was never asked, and that both of their names were included in all of the required paperwork. "Had we known they were against homosexuality, we would never have sought this school out," Gray said. "It wasn't like we announced it to the world, but it wasn't a secret, either. We've always been a family." Shay's educational future is unclear. At first, Clark had hoped there was a way Shay could return to Ontario Christian. But now, no one in the family backs that idea. The family is looking for another private school Shay can attend, but the admissions process is typically long, and she might not get in anywhere this year. Public school will probably be the answer for now, Clark said. After she gets to a new school, the family may consider legal action, Clark said. The expulsion was difficult for Shay, who said she is upset about being separated from her friends. As for the school's leadership, "They should be embarrassed," Shay said. - Mason Stockstill can be reached by e-mail mason.stockstill@dailybulletin.com , or by phone at (909) 483-9354
Women plan to protest outside Ontario Christian school
You gotta be kidding me? The "lifestyle" of the girl is obvious, because a young child's "lifestyle" is yet to be fully developed, and is mostly confined to the home environment and 'parental' instruction. This girl lives with homosexual deviant 'parents' in a homosexual deviant environment, and therefore has been forced into the midst of a homosexual lifestyle that she clearly accepts as 'family'. You seem to be missing some rather large points here.
(1). The Christian school is a PRIVATE RELIGIOUS school that can write its own enrollment criteria without regard to what the PC elite or any one else may think. They can bar the child of two lesbians just as surely as they can exclude the children of Osama bin Laden or the President of Planned Parenthood. All are notorious opponents of Christianity and reject Christian teachings. Admitting their children would bring nothing but conflict of interest and controvery upon themselves.
(2). There are private boarding schools all over the country that reject certain students if they think the child's presence, (and not necessariy her behavior), will create a problem for the rest of their students, or serve to undermine the morals and values they teach.
The school has the full legal right to accept only those children whom they feel will fit comfortably into their student and employee community. While the girl herself may or may not be the source of potential disturbance amongst the other students, the unfortunate family system and un-Christian family values she represents by proxy could very well cause controversy, fear or unrest for the other students. It could also cause some of the other parents to take their children out of the school, causing them undue financial harm.
One of the cheif purposes of a private school like this is to shelter your children from the controversial cultural crap that this girl's 'parents' so brazenly represent. The school made a very wise and prudent choice.
(3). The Christain faith, of which this school teaches and is a part of, condemns what civil authorities have deemed "legal", namely, the 'marriage' and co-habitation of same-sex couples. To accept the daughter of this disgraceful couple would potentially undermine the very thing the school tries to teach. They would be viewed by many, (including myself), as hypcrites.
This school teaches, in fact, that homosexuality is sinful and evil, which would place this young girl in serious jeopardy of becoming conflicted, confused, embarrassed and detached from the family lives and values of her peers. Admitting the child into this environment would indeed be cruel. And if the school's teachings alienated this girl from her peers and caused her emotional trauma, (which it almost certainly would), then yet another avenue for law suit against the school would be opened up.
In the end, THE SCHOOL HAS THE ABSOLUTE LEGAL RIGHT TO ACCEPT ONLY STUDENTS WHOM IT FEELS WILL BE A GOOD MATCH FOR ITS PROGRAM.
I guess they do want to force their immorality on the rest of us after all...
It's sad to say, you're probably right.
I'm beginning to wonder how many cases like this are setups.
If I remember right, the Lawrence case had all of the makings of a setup.
I'll answer that for you, even though it is against my better judgement. The school is, after all, doing EXACTLY what it should do--handling each student individually. But since it seems to be a sticking point with you...
Therefore, the school requires that at least one parent be a confessing Christian and active in the local Christian church.
Sorry, I don't see the fog.
Is it possible that not all of the parents are being forthcoming with regard to their sin? Of course that is possible. If it came to the attention of hte school administration, I would expect them to handle that instance the same way they are handling this one. In this case, both the mommies and the daughter are unrepenant. Instead of facing their sin, they are filing a lawsuit. I don't understand why you are championing their cause.
Plus the girl isn't a little girl, she's 14 years old. And until we know exactly what she was saying to the "crowd" at the game, it's really unclear. It's looking more and more like a set-up.
If you actually read "all that info", you would have understood my deepest point. Namely, that no other sin has been accepted as a lifestyle, no other sin has tens of thousands of advocates trying to legalize and legitimize it, no other sin creeps into your five year old's classroom and attempts to endorse itself, no other sin is protected from being hated by the government, no other sin is rewarded by government with special monetary benefits. NO OTHER SIN CLAIMS TO BE A NATURAL AND GOD-GIVEN..
While nobody is totally free from sin, it's probably a good idea to try to prevent your kids from falling into organized, legalized, institutionalized, government rewarded sin.
By the way, there are indeed sins that are "better" (less offensive to God) than other sins.
Homosexual Agenda Ping.
Yet another article about the Christian school, 14 year old daughter, and lesbian mother.
Please click the link Bonaparte has provided and see what the school has to say. It's pretty clear what was what, although we do not know what the girl said to others at the game, her behavior in general, etc.
Here's a link that gives important facts about children raised in homosexual households, that everyone should read. It is not good for children to be pawns in a social experiment.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1420072/posts
Expert: Many Promote Homosexual Parenting With Poor Reasons, Faulty Premise
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Confucious say: "When a man "walks like a feather" he is light in the loafers". lol
The Lawrence case was indeed a set-up - they admitted it. In fact they tried several times before to get a cop to come and catch them in sodomy but it didn't work before.
A very, very bad decision.
No from the beginning of the my argument was not that the mother is unrepentent. The argument is that this school handled it poorly from a Christian perspective. Do children walk up to their friends and say... HI my name is cindy and my parents are gay. Not likely. The issue is that this student should not be held accountable for her moms sin. If she says I think there is nothing morally wrong with my mom and her girl friend then she has violated the code of ethics she has signed and should be asked to leave.
I would agree with this argument except for the fact her sister attended the same school and the women have been together for 22 years. Why was this not an issue for the other students then?
I am not championing the womens cause but making the point that the "Christians" dropped the ball on how to handle this. THere was a chance to maybe redeem the mother. But now they acted like we always act, smug, self righteous and lacking in mercy.
I dont understand why you are not championing this childs case to stay in a Christan environment rather than to send her into a secular school. This didnt have to happen. And the school is the one that caused the problem.
Like I have said OVER AND OVER in this thread.
IF THE DAUGHTER said that there is nothing wrong with my moms gayness then she would be in violation of the agreement she made. And should be asked to leave. Since she didnt ( that Im aware of) It should have been worked out for what was best for a child in a screwed up family dynamic. All the children you are claiming to protect probly come from strong Christian intact homes. Your arguement seeks to take the very person out of the environment that our beliefs seek to save.
YOU are the one that is inconsistent.
I am basing off the fact that her older sister attended the same school years before when her mother and girlfriend were in the same relationship and it did not seem to come up. That is what I am basing it on. Now if the mother chose to make out with her girlfriend at a school function or even was somewhat affectionate inappropriately then this would be a violation and the school should deal with the parent. Meaning ( you ) are no longer welcomed at school functions. This is a violation of the agreement. Just as if a kids dad were making out with his girl friend in the stands. Inappropriate.
Now if the behavior continued and caused a disruption in the school then they probably would have to leave. The idea is not to hide the sin it is to save the daughter. Of course that is a moot point now, and this attitude has now isolated and played into the media again. A lot of Christians bad press is self inflicted.
I think we need to be more of the cunning as snakes part....
Have you followed Mark 16:16 to the letter? If you have not been baptized, you arent saved. Pure and simple: "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved, but he who does not shall be damned".
And the homos say they're very open and affirming until a Christian parent asks for permission to opt his child out of a first grade class using a "Heather Has Two Mommies" kind of book.
Just because they are morally incompetent doesn't mean they are totally insane. No sane person would send a child to a government school if it could be avoided.
Forget all this...are the moms hot?
>>he would be hanging out in the castro district of san fransico<<
Ministering to them about sin, repentance, and going forth to sin no more. Not affirming their lifestyle and trying to "start a dialogue about tolerance".
This just occurred to me. Apparently the younger sister went to the same school for three years with no fuss. Now, this girl gets expelled after the speaking to the crowd incident.
My supposition:
Perhaps the school knew of the girl's mother and her live in homosexual partner, but decided to allow the girl, and then the other girl, to attend because it was not made public. Then, the older girl made it public, and they acted.
That puts the school in even a better light. It would be educational to know all the facts.
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