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Daughter of Lesbian Couple Expelled - Women Plan to Protest Outside Ontario Christian School
Daily Bulletin ^ | September 25, 2005 | Mason Stockstill

Posted on 09/26/2005 10:31:48 PM PDT by Bonaparte

Daughter of lesbian couple expelled
Women plan to protest outside Ontario Christian school

By Mason Stockstill, Staff Writer

ONTARIO - A Chino couple plans to picket a Christian school in Ontario on Monday because officials expelled their daughter after learning her parents are lesbians. Tina Clark said the superintendent of Ontario Christian High School gave her a letter explaining that 14-year-old freshman Shay Clark was being kicked out because her parents' sexual orientation is "inconsistent with a positive Christian life style."

"My sexual orientation should have nothing to do with her getting an education," Tina Clark said. "I'm the one that's gay. My daughter's not. Why should her civil rights be infringed?"

Shay was crushed by what happened earlier this week, which she said came as a surprise.

"I knew that I might have problems," Shay said. "But I never thought it would go that far."

Principal Tim Hoekstra and Superintendent Len Stob did not return repeated calls Thursday and Friday seeking comment. Phone calls to several school trustees also were not returned.

Clark and her partner, Mitzi Gray, have been together for 22 years. They didn't expect Shay would experience discrimination at the school because her older sister had attended Ontario Christian schools from sixth through ninth grade. Additionally, Shay said her friends knew she lived in a home with two mothers, and "it was never a problem."

On Tuesday, however, that changed. Gray said when she went to an unrelated parent meeting that Clark was unable to attend, school administrators were confused by her different last name.

The next day, both women were called in and asked point-blank if they were gay, Clark said. When they said they were, Shay was expelled.

"These are the same people that patted me on the back the Friday before that and asked me how my week had gone," Clark said.

The family's situation is not unusual, said Johnny Chagolla of the Rainbow Pride Youth Alliance, a gay-rights organization in San Bernardino. Often, he said, students at religious schools are more likely to face discrimination.

"In cases like this, there's a concern," Chagolla said. "A lot of (religious school officials) say they're very open and affirming, and then you see this, and it contradicts what they're saying."

A similar situation arose earlier this year at a Catholic school in Costa Mesa, when parents pressured administrators into barring gay parents after a gay couple enrolled their twin sons at the school.

Ontario Christian is affiliated with the Christian Reformed Church, a denomination that considers homosexuality a "condition of disordered sexuality," according to the Web site of the Christian Reformed Church of North America.

The church considers the act of homosexual sex to be a sin, which "must be condemned as incompatible with obedience to the will of God as revealed in scripture." However, according to the group's Web site, the church should help gay Christians and "give them support toward healing and wholeness."

As the family gathered outside the school for a news conference Friday, students and staff peered at the scene out of the windows. Receptionist Cory Overstreet said administrators would not be available to comment.

According to the letter signed by Stob, school officials were not aware of Clark and Gray's relationship at the time Shay was admitted.

But both women said that question was never asked, and that both of their names were included in all of the required paperwork.

"Had we known they were against homosexuality, we would never have sought this school out," Gray said. "It wasn't like we announced it to the world, but it wasn't a secret, either. We've always been a family."

Shay's educational future is unclear. At first, Clark had hoped there was a way Shay could return to Ontario Christian. But now, no one in the family backs that idea.

The family is looking for another private school Shay can attend, but the admissions process is typically long, and she might not get in anywhere this year. Public school will probably be the answer for now, Clark said. After she gets to a new school, the family may consider legal action, Clark said.

The expulsion was difficult for Shay, who said she is upset about being separated from her friends.

As for the school's leadership, "They should be embarrassed," Shay said.

- Mason Stockstill can be reached by e-mail mason.stockstill@dailybulletin.com , or by phone at (909) 483-9354



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KEYWORDS: christian; christianschools; expelled; homosexualagenda; lesbians
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To: radioman; Bonaparte; grellis

There you go again. Your logic is simply undiagrammable.

You're not a Christian, so you don't have to respond to Christian arguments.

BUT you feel free to fault an institution for not being good Christians... and you'll take a verse out of context to seal your point.

So you feel you know enough of Christianity to tell others how to be what you're not... but not enough to be held accountable for anything you say.

This is fairly typical, but still nonsensical. I have never read the Koran through; I don't tell Muslims how to be good Muslims. I've never read the Book of Mormon all the way through; I don't tell Mormons how to be good Mormons.

What makes you feel qualified to tell this school they're not being good Christians?

Dan


261 posted on 09/28/2005 12:00:22 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: trubluolyguy
Expelling a kid from school is not an attack

Yes it is. She was expelled not because of anything she did, but because you find what her mother does with her crotch "disgusting". I just happen to believe that the child is more important than what her mother does with her crotch.
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262 posted on 09/28/2005 12:00:33 PM PDT by radioman
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To: radioman

I just happen to believe that the child is more important than what her mother does with her crotch.




And I just happen to believe that telling the truth is more important too. These "parents' obviously lied to get their "family" accepted in to the private Christian school. So we should now keep the kid in the school and in so doing teach her that it is ok to lie if you really feel good about the reason you are doing it?


263 posted on 09/28/2005 12:04:29 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: BibChr
You're not a Christian, so you don't have to respond to Christian arguments. What makes you feel qualified to tell this school they're not being good Christians?

This is a Conservative forum, not Sunday School. If you can't take the heat, stop trying to claim the moral high ground. You want the freedom to tell us how to live our lives in "Christian America" but all you show us is your willingness to ignore the teachings of your prophet as you punish an innocent child.
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264 posted on 09/28/2005 12:09:09 PM PDT by radioman
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To: trubluolyguy
These "parents' obviously lied to get their "family" accepted in to the private Christian school.

The parents lied...punish the child. She is a good student. She is a credit to the school. All of her friends are Christian.
What would Jesus do?
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265 posted on 09/28/2005 12:16:50 PM PDT by radioman
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To: radioman
"I'm not a Biblical guy."

This is the first thing you've said that I can fully agree with, radioman.

And although you now admit that you're "not a Biblical guy," that doesn't stop you from presenting yourself as a greater authority than Paul, an apostle of Jesus Himself, and passing judgment on Christians who are much more "Biblical guys" than you are.

One fact is inescapable, radioman. If you criticize Christians who reject families that persist in unrepentent sin, then you also criticize Jesus Himself for the same thing. For He commands us to put Him above all others, including our parents.

By her own public statement, quoted in the article, Shay Clark does not place Jesus above her "parents.'" After years of opportunity to love God above these unrepentent sinners, she has chosen the unrepentent sinners over God.

    "Unless you repent, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven."

This entire "family" has remained unrepentent for years. They are as shameless as you are when you call your own self-contradiction "a perspective on my opinion for the sake of honesty." The school is adhering strictly to the teachings and example of Jesus and his apostles.

266 posted on 09/28/2005 12:17:15 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: radioman

Let me try out a theory. This whole mess has nothing to do with Christians. It has to do with the parents of other kids not wanting their kids "exposed" to lesbians.


267 posted on 09/28/2005 12:20:34 PM PDT by durasell
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To: BibChr; radioman
[BibChr to radioman]:

"So you feel you know enough of Christianity to tell others how to be what you're not... but not enough to be held accountable for anything you say."

BibChr, I pray the Lord that He will one day gift me with eloquence such as yours.

268 posted on 09/28/2005 12:21:32 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: radioman; grellis; Bonaparte

Were you conscious that you were doing exactly what I described, in that posting?

In other words, you insist on the right to whine and snipe, but accept no responsibility for the content or quality of your whining, bail out when you receive contentful response, then simply repeat your original whining and sniping.

Typical liberal. In that regard, even if in no other.

Dan


269 posted on 09/28/2005 12:22:01 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: radioman
"This is a Conservative forum, not Sunday School."

    Then I have to wonder why you are giving us your own preachy lessons on Christian ethics.

"...the teachings of your prophet..."

    Oh, my...

    You're really not a "Biblical guy" at all, are you? Demoting Jesus Christ, the Living God, to the rank of a mere "prophet"?

    Forgive me for laughing, but you are the last person on Earth to lecture Christians on Christianity. At this point, and since you are unwilling to engage rational argument, your strongest argument would be silence.


270 posted on 09/28/2005 12:35:46 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
doesn't stop you from presenting yourself as a greater authority than Paul

Baloney!
In other words, you can't refute anything I've said.

passing judgment on Christians who are much more "Biblical guys" than you are

I see...it's ok to pass judgement on an innocent child, but don't point out the hypocrisy of those who judge!

unrepentent sin

What about the sin of rejecting an innocent child?

then you also criticize Jesus Himself for the same thing. For He commands us to put Him above all others, including our parents

Are you telling me Jesus commands you to punish a child for the sin of the parent?

By her own public statement, quoted in the article, Shay Clark does not place Jesus above her "parents.'"

Do you?

The school is adhering strictly to the teachings and example of Jesus and his apostles.

Sounds like Islam!
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271 posted on 09/28/2005 12:35:51 PM PDT by radioman
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To: radioman
"Are you telling me Jesus commands you to punish a child for the sin of the parent?"

Well, radioman, Jesus, Who is God, Who has been here since the foundation, and Who has always been with the Father, expelled our parents, Adam and Even, from the paradise of the garden and punished all the generations for their original sin. So what do you think the answer to your question is?

272 posted on 09/28/2005 12:42:26 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: radioman
[Bonaparte]: "The school is adhering strictly to the teachings and example of Jesus and his apostles."

[radioman]: " Sounds like Islam!"
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Oh, my, my, my. Adhering strictly to one's principles puts one in league with Islamics?

Some people might think you need rest.

273 posted on 09/28/2005 12:51:03 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: radioman
Are you telling me Jesus commands you to punish a child for the sin of the parent?

What a lame strawman. The child is being 'hurt' due to the dishonest actions of her alledged 'parents', plain and simple. They sought to use this as a wedge issue to force a Christian Church to condone homosexual behavior. They used this girl as a pawn in their little game. So who's punishing/hurting who? Behavior has consequences and these 'parent's' actions have cause this to occur.

274 posted on 09/28/2005 12:52:46 PM PDT by Godzilla (I'm not suffering from insanity, I'm actually enjoying it.)
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To: radioman

This isn't about religion, despite what the other posters say.


275 posted on 09/28/2005 12:54:02 PM PDT by durasell
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To: radioman
If you don't like the answer I gave you in post 272, maybe we can take things one step further...

The Father punished the blameless Son for our sins so that we might escape our richly deserved punishment and He did so with the full cooperation of the Son.

How is that, radioman?

It's all about balancing justice with mercy.

The court sends the murdering family man to prison and his child is now without a source of support. It's too bad, but if he isn't sent to prison, murder goes unpunished.

Just as God balances His perfect justice with His perfect mercy, we must balance our imperfect justice with our imperfect mercy.

276 posted on 09/28/2005 1:07:05 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: durasell
"This isn't about religion"

LOL! Keep saying it, durasell. Maybe you'll start believing it. Are you sure you're not really the Eveready Bunny?

277 posted on 09/28/2005 1:09:23 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

Some people simply do not like lesbians. They find them offensive.


278 posted on 09/28/2005 1:13:51 PM PDT by durasell
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To: durasell
Some people?

Do you mean some others might dislike lesbianism because their scriptures tell them it's an abomination?

Is that possible?

279 posted on 09/28/2005 1:17:30 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

Absolutely. But I have seen religious folks form lasting and genuine bonds with gay people, including lesbians. I have seen ministers and priests comfort them when in distress. And I have seen them accepted and welcomed into churches. Including lesbians.


That said, I, personnally, am not that crazy about their unseemly skill at softball. Losing to a lesbian is still losing to a girl. I can't get past that.


280 posted on 09/28/2005 1:22:27 PM PDT by durasell
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