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No Charges In Shooting Of Robber With Water Nozzle
ABC Denver Channel 7 ^ | September 26, 2005

Posted on 09/27/2005 8:39:47 AM PDT by george76

Liquor Store Owner Cleared By Weld County District Attorney

An investigation of the shooting determined that the liquor store owner, Ron Trauernicht, 59, shot Wies because he thought Wies was going to shoot Norma Trauernicht, Ron's wife.

The robbery attempt began when police said that Wies entered the store and said he had a gun. He had something in his hand covered by cloth and used it to order store employees and two customers into a back cooler.

Police said that Wies was taking money from the cash register when Norma Trauernicht came out of the cooler and confronted him. Wies pushed her to the floor as Ron Trauernicht came out of the cooler and grabbed a .357-caliber revolver he kept in the store for protection.

Ron Trauernicht told Wies to put his weapon down, but told investigators that Wies pointed the simulated weapon at Norma Trauernicht's head. That's when her husband fired a single shot at Wies, striking him in the forehead. He died four days later.

Police found Wies was not armed with a weapon but with the water sprinkler covered with cloth to simulate a gun.

Weld County District Attorney Kenneth R. Buck determined that Ron Trauernicht acted within the law because he believed that he and his wife were in imminent danger of being killed and that he believed a crime was being committed when he fired the fatal shot.

An investigation revealed that Wies was suspected in at least four robberies in Greeley and Loveland. In all of the robberies, police said he covered his hand to make it appear he had a gun.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedenverchannel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol
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1 posted on 09/27/2005 8:39:47 AM PDT by george76
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Bang! Your dead!


2 posted on 09/27/2005 8:41:30 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules ("Don't get Stuck On Stupid" and "Did I mention I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night"?)
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To: george76

Gamble enough times and you'll lose.


3 posted on 09/27/2005 8:42:46 AM PDT by Toto_for_breakfast
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Freakin' Sweet!

4 posted on 09/27/2005 8:44:05 AM PDT by lormand (George W. Bush is saving your ass, whether you like it or not.)
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To: george76

Wow. Common sense prevails!


5 posted on 09/27/2005 8:44:21 AM PDT by Egon (By the way, I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar.)
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To: george76

Nice shot.


6 posted on 09/27/2005 8:45:17 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: george76

Allow me ......... "never bring a water sprinkler to a gun fight."


7 posted on 09/27/2005 8:45:29 AM PDT by EggsAckley ("The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handle")
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To: george76

I love good self defense stories. I just wish they received more publicity.

BTW, was the sprinkler loaded?


8 posted on 09/27/2005 8:45:49 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
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To: US_MilitaryRules
Why did it take four days after a head shot from a .357 pistol?

I would have thought death would be instantaneous, to hours.

(Yes, I'm clueless. That's why I am asking...)

9 posted on 09/27/2005 8:46:08 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Holy cr@p, I am getting sick of headline editors' bad grammar! I honestly was trying to figure out how someone can kill a robber by shooting him with a water nozzle!


10 posted on 09/27/2005 8:46:15 AM PDT by dangus
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To: george76

It's just like an idiot to bring a water nozzle to a gun fight.


11 posted on 09/27/2005 8:46:32 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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To: grey_whiskers

Apparently his brain was not a vital organ.


12 posted on 09/27/2005 8:47:06 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Alex Marko

Now, we can appreciate his Gun Control.


13 posted on 09/27/2005 8:47:16 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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As of this weekend in FL, the perp would have died the instant he announced a robbery.

"Make my day" on steroids.


14 posted on 09/27/2005 8:48:53 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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"Why did it take four days after a head shot from a .357 pistol?
I would have thought death would be instantaneous, to hours.

(Yes, I'm clueless. That's why I am asking...)"

It is actually a great question. I thought the same thing.

My only thought is that he must of had hard cheap target loads in the gun and it made a nice clean hole all the way through. Most of ust that carry .357 use lead hollow point defense rounds. They make a mess of things but don't over pennetrate as much and expand on contact.


15 posted on 09/27/2005 8:49:12 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
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To: george76

He fired only ONE shot? When you're in a life or death situation -- don't take a chance -- empty the whole clip.


16 posted on 09/27/2005 8:49:26 AM PDT by ZGuy ((Graduate of the Jack Bauer School of Offensive Driving))
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He fired only ONE shot? When you're in a life or death situation -- don't take a chance -- empty the whole clip.

It was a revolver.

17 posted on 09/27/2005 8:51:15 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: grey_whiskers

If there was not a lot of bleeding and it was a glancing blow and didn't damage the back part of the brain it can be possible. Add life support into the equasion. Humans and animals are not as fragile as some think. I have seen deer leave a mile blood trail only to stop bleeding and disappear.Then again a small .22 can mean instant death if placed in the right spot.


18 posted on 09/27/2005 8:52:45 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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19 posted on 09/27/2005 8:54:02 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: ZGuy

Since he was shooting a .357 I doubt he had a clip, think revolver.


20 posted on 09/27/2005 8:54:45 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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