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Some Reports of N.O. Violence Exaggerated
Associated Press ^ | Sep 27 | MICHELLE ROBERTS

Posted on 09/27/2005 11:36:58 AM PDT by andyk

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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Oh please. It's the truth. Otherwise, why would you ask me such an insipid question? What does it matter because you're going to tell everyone who you've been through the riots,etc. and everyone else is wrong. LOL as for running off no one runs me off. I also don't need Clownposse, not now and not ever just like I don't need any other anti-freeping site. I'm not rdb3 and have no interest in posting at CP EVER. Believe whatever you want as to my posting habits.


141 posted on 09/27/2005 6:34:42 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job, breath in my lungs and my future husband petronski.)
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To: EveningStar
Do you think they bought it because they hate black people?

No, I do not think that, really. Some Freepers bought into the mentality that all black folks on the overpass and in the super dome were thugs, criminals, on welfare or too lazy to evacuate. Actually, I think Shep and Geraldo did a great service to these folks by pointing out their plight in many days of hell.

142 posted on 09/27/2005 6:38:40 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Colonial Warrior

Thread crumbs hit the spot-thanks. ;]


143 posted on 09/27/2005 6:39:42 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: WestTexasWend

"A week after the floodwaters poured into the city, an Arkansas National Guardsman told The Times-Picayune of New Orleans that soldiers had discovered 30 to 40 bodies inside a freezer in the convention center's food area. Guardsman Mikel Brooks told the newspaper that some of the dead appeared to have met violent ends, including "a 7-year-old with her throat cut."

When the convention center was swept, however, no such pile of bodies was found.

Lt. Col. Jacques Thibodeaux of the Louisiana National Guard said reports of violence at the Superdome and the convention center were overblown. He was head of security at the Superdome and led the 1,000 military police and infantrymen who went in to secure the center on Sept. 2.

"The incidents were highly exaggerated" _ the result of fear and hopelessness, he said. "For the amount of the people in the situation, it was a very stable environment."

Thibodeaux said his guard unit received no reports of rape."

What do you think the odds are of finding the Arkansas National Guardsman and hearing what he has to say? The whole story, from first to last (this) makes me think there's something rotten in Denmark.


144 posted on 09/27/2005 6:45:19 PM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: cyborg
No Cy- I asked since you want to discredit my experiences with these issues- which I give here to back up why I feel the way I do. It is no different than what anyone else does all over the internet.

But since I don't agree with you and have a different view of things than you and the people with whom you associate -you want to insult me and insinuate that I am a racist- a bigot...what???.

BTW-I didn't post that you posted at CP. If you all would pay attention to what you read when it is posted to you, may not get into these arguments over nothing.

145 posted on 09/27/2005 6:49:01 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: Wristpin

Bingo!


146 posted on 09/27/2005 6:50:54 PM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Where did I do that? When did I insult you and accuse you of being a racist? That was rdb3 NOT ME. BTW, I can read. If you post to me, I assume you're addressing me and you implied that I posted at CP. If that wasn't your intention then why address me and CP in the same post? I did say that your question has nothing to do with this thread topic which it doesn't.


147 posted on 09/27/2005 6:51:48 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job, breath in my lungs and my future husband petronski.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

So now you are insulting me and running off again?? Don't worry someone over at Clownposse will cut and paste it for you so you can read it there. I like how you are using all of their buzz words now. Y'all got quite a tight group don't you?


*** BTW, I've never been part of any tight group so I don't know what you're talking about. Have a nice evening.


148 posted on 09/27/2005 6:53:37 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job, breath in my lungs and my future husband petronski.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

We don't know they're not lying now.


149 posted on 09/27/2005 6:54:53 PM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: rdb3

I believe that some are clearly racist. And some are just gullible - like me - as I clean the egg of my face. :(


150 posted on 09/27/2005 6:59:22 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

i'm 47 and 6th generation Mississippian so white on black racism is nothing new to me....

But while that has gone down markedly in my view during my lifetime, the rise of black resentment and contempt for whites (and others actually) has been a disappointment.

and I really don't see much fixing that........white guilt sure won't....no matter how good it makes those folks feel about themselves.

that said....I think evryone is racist a bit.....either out and out, or passive, or defensive (me), or paternalistic (that would be the mushy guilty white folk)

it's a damned mess......the issues that arose from Katrina were nothing new...it's just the scope and the 24 hour news channels went on and on and on.

if that was the first time folks saw black hostility to whites and it startled them then they must live pretty isolated.

as for all the white on black racist aspects...I blame Bush of course..lol

I had hoped this could open eyes and maybe fix some stuff that needs fixin but it's back to business as usual.


151 posted on 09/27/2005 6:59:35 PM PDT by wardaddy (You're too good for him.)
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To: frogjerk

Four days after the storm, thousands of blacks in New Orleans are dying like dogs. No-one has come to help them.

uhhh...lets see. start walking North or West. I'm sure a local Git-n-Go could be an hour outside of the punchbowl of hell. Imagine that, "survival."


152 posted on 09/27/2005 7:00:38 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (If not now, when?)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm pretty careful about putting something that bluntly on somebody, but the exaggerations sure gave fuel to any fear or suspicions people might have had.

True. And I'm going to have to be more careful about what I believe. A wait and see attitude in situations like this is definitely the wise path to take.

153 posted on 09/27/2005 7:03:02 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Conservababe
Some Freepers bought into the mentality that all black folks on the overpass and in the super dome were thugs, criminals, on welfare or too lazy to evacuate.

We do have our share of idiots here. I wish that were not the case.

154 posted on 09/27/2005 7:04:56 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: wardaddy
Well I really think what we saw was a culture riot. (I had originally labeled it a "race riot" and I had to change that because my translation of that being what was motivating the rioters and looters- was not coming thru the way I had intended. I admitted that it was a poor choice of words on my part)- But culture yes- because look around; We see the faces of our troops and our police and our rescue personal- we look at the faces of our friends and look at the faces of some of our great leaders- they are all colors-all levels of pigmentation.

People who are really racist are of one culture and - yes there are people who are not racist and they are of another culture.

I don't believe that everyone is a degree of racist. Not my friends anyway- and be careful to think that my friends are one color please. :]

155 posted on 09/27/2005 7:09:17 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: freema
Like I have said before, I am suspicious because this is exactly what happened in the weeks and months after the LA riots.

Of course the media was exaggerating data and numbers- I mean tens of thousands of dead? No way.

Why don't they find the National Guardsman and interview him. So are we to believe that he was lying? Ummm.. I am not going to fall for that one so easily.

156 posted on 09/27/2005 7:13:22 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: andyk

"Kelly McBride, who teaches ethics to journalists at the Poynter Institute,"

That is like an Eskimo teaching Russian to a rattlesnake!


157 posted on 09/27/2005 7:17:39 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: EveningStar
We do have our share of idiots here. I wish that were not the case.

Many freepers here are not racists, but certainly vulnerable to to MSM and Cable reports. So many did not allow for the fact of so many reporting to the super dome after they had pulled many victims from the rising waters, or that they had pushed their elderly relatives on floating rafts, or that they had shared their provisions with others in compassion. But, of course, they should be forever banished from their city because they are only riff raff, after all, and will choose to relocate. I think not.

158 posted on 09/27/2005 7:19:45 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Grrrr...this is getting on my nerves. When I see LA, as in your post, I know it California. Louisiana is La.....LOL


159 posted on 09/27/2005 7:22:38 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Conservababe
Duly noted. ;]
160 posted on 09/27/2005 7:24:38 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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