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FORCES KILL AL QAEDA IN IRAQ EMIR OF BAGHDAD
HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND ^ | September 27, 2005 | cpicpressdesk@iraq.centcom.mil.

Posted on 09/27/2005 7:52:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Straight Vermonter

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41 posted on 09/28/2005 12:20:36 AM PDT by Khurkris (Ain't life funny?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dog; mhking; rdb3; Trueblackman; dead; section9; Travis McGee; Jeff Head
"The attacks on Baghdad, while having no real military value, are achieving the desired political and propaganda effects of feeding the Western media’s passion for gory headlines that project failure in Iraq. It should be noted that Coalition successes in targeting al Qaeda leadership and operatives rarely, if ever, leads in the headlines, while al Qaeda successes get top billing. Today is no different - the headline At Least 25 Are Killed in Day of Violence Across Iraq [New York Times] sells, while al Qaeda Commander and 20 Terrorists Killed in Raid does not exist, unless you happened to stumble upon this site."

I agree that the attacks **are** for headlines (they have little direct military value and would have been scoffed at during WW2 aerial blitzes)...but I have one or two doubts that the **Western** news media is their prime target (secondary, no doubt).

They need recruits. Al Qaeda in Iraq and Hamas in Israel have both been busted lying to their suicide bomber recruits, resorting to dire subterfuge to obtain even a handful of willing volunteers.

...and those volunteers are going to become more and more scarce if Zarqawi can't gin up "victories" in the Islamic news media (e.g. blowing up Iraqi police recruits).

Do Chechnyan Muslims really want to die in the heat of Iraq, for instance, rather than fighting for their own homeland, if they see nothing but setbacks for Zarqawi?!

Chechnya has become rather quiet. Ditto for Kashmir. Ditto for Israel/Palestine. Again for Kosovo/Bosnia. Ditto once more for the U.S. homeland itself.

Out of more than 6,000 polling stations in remote Afghanistan, the Taliban and Al Qaeda remnants there could only close a dozen...a wholly ineffective battle against our successful elections there this month.

Also of note is that so far our remote embassies in Africa have remained untouched since 1998. That's low-hanging fruit. If Al Qaeda can't hit those buildings, then it doesn't have much ability at all to project force.

Other low-hanging fruit would be piracy. Al Qaeda shows great weakness by so far failing to hi-jack and/or sink Western ocean-going commerce on those many giant, slow-moving vessels that must pass through narrow Asian and African straights.

Cargo ships around the world sell berths for their voyages, and no airport metal and explosives detectors check said passengers...yet Al qaeda seems limited right now to very small strikes such as a few individual bombers hitting the London subway system (once successfully, though minor compared to a WW2 bombing of said "underground," and a 2nd time was a complete failure for them at all levels).

42 posted on 09/28/2005 12:48:13 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Another of your excellent analysis, Southack. Would that the MSM had one ounce of perspective on the positive aspects of this war on terror. But it has none, is intellectually unable to have any, and mostly.....it doesn't want to.

Leni

43 posted on 09/28/2005 4:37:22 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Re: The Anti-War Sheehan-ites - They want to live in the garden but not tend the garden)
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To: MinuteGal
The MSM is heavily infiltrated by the Far Leftists who have an agenda.....see this book:

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Unholy Alliance : Radical Islam and the American Left

And a very good review:

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Vastly Illuminating, September 25, 2004

Reviewer: Kat Bakhu (Albuquerque, NM United States) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air.
44 posted on 09/28/2005 10:12:45 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is further proof of the Media and Print Press in this country.

Do not ever forget the template. If it makes Bush look good, then ignore it or bury it in the back pages. If it makes Bush look bad, then hammer it on the front pages.

We score a major victory in Iraq, and does the media even ackknowedge it?????
45 posted on 09/28/2005 10:18:09 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518; MinuteGal; Southack; Marine_Uncle
We score a major victory in Iraq, and does the media even ackknowedge it?????

Here is the latest from the Fourth Rail and they mention an article in the San Francisco Chronicle which attributes strength to the Terrorists (When in fact they are about to get their heads hannded to them ):

Operation Hunter Redux

46 posted on 09/28/2005 10:42:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
HE he he he haha haha haha!
Hey Abu! Say hello to Allah on your way past to hell! Compliments of the USA!
47 posted on 09/28/2005 10:46:51 AM PDT by Danae ( Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Danae; Sprite518
Just posted this from a MSM source:

IRAQ: Insurgents seize 5 towns near Syria ~ tell residents in 'death letters' to abandon their homes

48 posted on 09/28/2005 11:25:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: politicalwit
Indirect link to Bloomberg piece on this:

Next!

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Next!

Number Two Al Qaeda terrorist is taken down by a bullet.  Don't know if it was from a US or Iraqi weapon as they conducted a joint raid on Abu Azzam's hideout.

Tango down!

[the number three guy has got to be nervous]

Posted by Blackfive | September 27, 2005 | Permalink

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From the Bloomberg article:

At least five senior members of al-Qaeda were killed in those raids, according to the U.S. military, including the emirs of Karbilah and al-Qaim, and three emirs of Mosul.

Chopping them up!

49 posted on 09/28/2005 11:44:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for ping and URL reference to Bill Roggio site. As usual, one finds a better balanced view then if found eleswhere. I found the variance in opinions between the Col Davis of RCT2 and Lct Col Alford of 3rd BN 6th Marine Regiment a bit interesting. Davis sits at his desk at Al Asad, and Alford may very well be sitting in a temperary FOB outside of Qaem, a distance of some 140 miles via. river road bends apart. And two distinctly different Area of Operations(AO).
Thought they most likely interface for major operations they are mostly on their own unless 3/3 needs air support flown from Al Asad. So it could appear both are right on with their reports. At any rate, it is most vital as we all can construe for 3/6 and Iraqi forces to take out any new foreigners that may have gotten in from Syria.......OR for all we know have been moving north to gather from areas in Davis's AO where they have been doing raids on the larger cities southeast of Al Asad. Something not often brought up. Well actually have not seen anyone mentioned that option on any posts. I continue to wonder if foreign terrorist that pass through the border check point above Qaem where it enters Syria, are being allowed to pass on the Syrian side.
Just a thought. If a young guy with what looks like a valid visa who has no weapons and perhaps has a valid family member living in Iraq, gets approached by the Syrian border patrol police. How can they figure out if he is a baddy or not. The only solution is to shut down the every border crossing completely as the Iraqi Government has announce they are in the process of doing. No one enters or leaves.
Tough luck for those that are legit at this point. If no one is using any road between Syria and Iraq in Al Anbar and Niniveh provinces other then Iraqi and US military forces.
Surely Sat photos, air recon, both manned and unmanned daily flights, along with light mobile forces such as one finds say in the LAR Bn's can pick any one up hoofing it in. IMHO until they do this, Ali Babba will continue to slip across the Syrian border at many checkpoints, no matter how well you try to sift them out. Lastly. A terrorist can take the form of a legitamate oil truck driver for instance driving in from Jordian or Syria. And we must always bare in mind the Syrian border is some 380 linear miles.

No response required. Just some thoughts.


50 posted on 09/28/2005 12:25:31 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: andie74
I think that we are seeing the decimation of this crew.

Won't it better to kill them all?

51 posted on 09/28/2005 12:30:01 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Osama Bin Laden Al Khanzier)
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To: ASA Vet
I think that we are seeing the decimation of this crew. Won't it better to kill them all?

Uh...yes...LOL!

52 posted on 09/28/2005 6:11:43 PM PDT by andie74 (Proud of my white trash heritage)
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