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DeLay Indicted, Steps Down(Could get up to two years if convicted.)
Austin American Statesman ^ | September 28, 2005 | Laylan Copelin

Posted on 09/28/2005 10:52:59 AM PDT by kellynla

A Travis County grand jury today indicted U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay on one count of criminal conspiracy, prompting the Sugar Land Republican to give up his leadership post in Congress.

"I have notified (House Speaker Dennis Hastert) that I will temporarily step aside from my position as majority leader pursuant to rules of the House Republican Conference and the actions of the Travis County District Attorney today," DeLay said in a statement.

The charge, a state jail felony punishable by up to two years incarceration, stems from his role with his political committee, Texans for a Republican Majority, a now-defunct organization that already had been indicted on charges of illegally using corporate money during the 2002 legislative elections.

The grand jury, however, took no action against Texas House Speaker Tom Craddick, Texas Association of Business President Bill Hammond or state Reps. Dianne Delisi and Beverly Woolley, both of whom sit on the political committee's board, for their roles in the election.

The grand jury's term ended today.

Delay's defense team will hold a news conference in Austin later this afternoon. The team includes defense attorneys Bill White and Steve Brittain of Austin and Dick DeGuerin of Houston.

"It's a skunky indictment. It stinks to high heaven," White said.

DeLay and his associates insisted the corporate money was legally spent on committee overhead or issue advertising and not campaign-related activity.

An indictment does not force DeLay to resign as a member of Congress, but the GOP's rules demand that he resign his post as majority leader as he fights the charges. Congressional Republicans earlier tried to drop that requirement, citing Earle's investigation as a political vendetta, but they ultimately maintained the rule after withering criticism.

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


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1 posted on 09/28/2005 10:53:00 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Sad day. I hope he's cleared, but don't know the facts.


2 posted on 09/28/2005 10:54:44 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!)
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To: kellynla

....aren't they jumping the guy a little bit on DeLay who's already said there is nothing to these allegations.....


3 posted on 09/28/2005 10:54:44 AM PDT by auto power
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To: kellynla
Oh goody, another "honest" politician leading us. These people never learn. /sarcasm still on.
4 posted on 09/28/2005 10:54:47 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
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To: kellynla

....aren't they jumping the gun a little bit on DeLay who's already said there is nothing to these allegations.....


5 posted on 09/28/2005 10:55:13 AM PDT by auto power
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To: kellynla

Indicted on the grand jury's last day?


6 posted on 09/28/2005 10:56:34 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: La Enchiladita

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0928051delay1.html


7 posted on 09/28/2005 10:56:57 AM PDT by bcory
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To: kellynla

“Dollars for Dismissals” - Ronnie Earle dropped charges in exchange for cash to pet cause.
National Review ^ | June 20, 2005 | Byron York

http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.p?ref=/york/york200506200910.asp


8 posted on 09/28/2005 10:57:01 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: auto power

Well I've always said, "if" is the biggest word in the dictionary.

We'll just have to wait and see...


9 posted on 09/28/2005 10:57:53 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: reagandemocrat
Yep. It was political but it doesn't matter. DeLay's out of action.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
10 posted on 09/28/2005 10:58:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: RetiredArmy

"Oh goody, another "honest" politician leading us. These people never learn. /sarcasm still on."

Don't you know a Republican politician can't be a crook? ;)

We'll see how it goes but personally I see this as poetic justice for Delay's recent statement that all the fat has been cut from the budget, etc. One of the most politically stupid and insulting statements I've seen in a while.

On the other hand, maybe this shows he's got an insanity defense...


11 posted on 09/28/2005 10:58:36 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: kellynla

IMHO it's pure vendetta because Tom DeLay has been so effective!


DeLay has issued the following statement:

These charges have no basis in the facts or the law. This is just another example of Ronnie Earle misusing his office for partisan vendettas. Despite the clearly political agenda of this prosecutor, Congressman DeLay has cooperated with officials throughout the entire process. Even in the last two weeks, Ronnie Earle himself had acknowledged publicly that Mr. DeLay was not a target of his investigation. However, as with many of Ronnie Earle's previous partisan investigations, Ronnie Earle refused to let the facts or the law get in the way of his partisan desire to indict a political foe.

This purely political investigation has been marked by illegal grand jury leaks, a fundraising speech by Ronnie Earle for Texas Democrats that inappropriately focused on the investigation, misuse of his office for partisan purposes, and extortion of money for Earle's pet projects from corporations in exchange for dismissing indictments he brought against them. Ronnie Earle's previous misuse of his office has resulted in failed prosecutions and we trust his partisan grandstanding will strike out again, as it should.

Ronnie Earle's 1994 indictment against Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison was quickly dismissed and his charges in the 1980s against former Attorney General Jim Mattox-another political foe of Earle-fell apart at trial.

We regret the people of Texas will once again have their taxpayer dollars wasted on Ronnie Earle's pursuit of headlines and political paybacks. Ronnie Earle began this investigation in 2002, after the Democrat Party lost the Texas state legislature to Republicans. For three years and through numerous grand juries, Ronnie Earle has tried to manufacture charges against Republicans involved in winning those elections using arcane statutes never before utilized in a case in the state. This indictment is nothing more than prosecutorial retribution by a partisan Democrat.


12 posted on 09/28/2005 11:00:04 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Outraged about a red crescent at Flight 93 Memorial? Call 1-814- 443-4557 to leave comments.)
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To: kellynla

A blind man could have seen this coming. A totally political attack by a crooked RAT, and the MSM will love it. DeLay will be totally cleared, but the MSM will barely mention that part.


13 posted on 09/28/2005 11:00:39 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: goldstategop
Yep. It was political but it doesn't matter. DeLay's out of action.

So the bastards can take down any legitimate congressional leader just by hitting them with bs charges?

Sounds like a load of horse**** to me.

14 posted on 09/28/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: RetiredArmy

Excuse me, Ronnie Earle has been after Delay for years.

He's a no account Texas DA.

Kindly wait until you hear the facts.


15 posted on 09/28/2005 11:01:30 AM PDT by altura
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To: All

As much as this seems to smell, it may be a good thing in the long run. Hopefully the MSM will run with it for a long time and along with Katrina it will keep the spotlight off the next supreme court nomination - which is REALLY where the liberal power lies. I would love the irony of a frivilous lawsuit helping to create a conservative court.


16 posted on 09/28/2005 11:02:29 AM PDT by broadway
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To: kellynla
DeLay and his associates insisted the corporate money was legally spent on committee overhead or issue advertising and not campaign-related activity.

Boy... the line between those two activities is as vague as the meaning of the word "is".

17 posted on 09/28/2005 11:02:49 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kellynla

Another DNC funded witch hunt.


18 posted on 09/28/2005 11:02:58 AM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: Shermy

To be brutally honest with you, I don't give a rat's rear hind quarters what party you are in or for, but if you break the law, and jail is warranted, then you go to jail. No one is ABOVE THE LAW. No matter HOW IMPORTANT they may think they are, or how big their britches are, guilty, go to jail! That simple. And I don't care what party they are in.


19 posted on 09/28/2005 11:03:06 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
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To: kellynla

Bookmark


20 posted on 09/28/2005 11:03:43 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: altura
The DA did not hand down the indictment, the Grand Jury did. DO YOU KNOW THE FACTS??? I seriously doubt it.
21 posted on 09/28/2005 11:04:47 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
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To: kellynla

As a former Texan (please Texans help me out here), I know that Ronnie Earle, the dim DA in liberal Travis County - been there for 18-20 years I believe - has traditionally used his office to file spurious charges against pub pols - mostly they end up amounting to nothing. Just fishing, trying to make trouble etc.

As the DA of the county that contains the state capital, Earle has way too much power and he abuses it.


22 posted on 09/28/2005 11:05:27 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: RetiredArmy

Me too.

In this case, we probably shouldn't take any chances, so let's just string him up and then we'll wait and see if he really did it....



/sarc?


23 posted on 09/28/2005 11:05:54 AM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: kellynla

Hopefully this will be trial by jury,not trial by msm.
If he is guilty, he should do the time. If he is innocent, the media should lay off.


24 posted on 09/28/2005 11:06:02 AM PDT by Straight8 (Today is a gift, that's why it's called "the present".)
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To: RetiredArmy
And Travis County is the most liberal area in all of Texas. Earl could indict a "ham sandwich" using an Travis County grand jury as long as the sandwich was a Republican.
25 posted on 09/28/2005 11:06:31 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John Conyers, and David Duke Are Just Different Sides of the Same Coin.)
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To: Shermy

That's not brutally honest - just sensible. I don't think anyone would argue with your statement.


26 posted on 09/28/2005 11:07:04 AM PDT by broadway
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To: ozzymandus
And the same old Freepers will run for the hills! LOL, they complain and lecture the GOP?
27 posted on 09/28/2005 11:08:05 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: kellynla
Kay Bailey Hutchison was indicted by the same prosecutor in 1993 on criminal ethics charges, which she said were politically-motivated by Democrats. She was acquitted in February 1994 when Earle's state prosecutors, disheartened by the judge's pre-trial rulings, refused to present their case.

Air tight case has no air.
28 posted on 09/28/2005 11:08:08 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: RetiredArmy

I meant RA. Apologies.


29 posted on 09/28/2005 11:08:41 AM PDT by broadway
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To: RetiredArmy
I completely agree with that statement RA.

If he's guilty, go to jail. If the person who indicted had no legitimate, credible evidence, he should be held to answer and face charges.

30 posted on 09/28/2005 11:09:26 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: kellynla

...let the chips fall where they may and we'll learn the truth. I suspect this is going to be a Raymond "Can You Tell Me Where to Pick Up My Reputation" Donovan witch hunt by a RAT prosecutor...I've always wondered how RATs escape the political process?


31 posted on 09/28/2005 11:09:36 AM PDT by meandog (FUDU)
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To: Straight8

Like DeLay said about Kay Bailey Hutchison, the charges may be dropped...
After all, you can "indict" a ham sandwich! LOL


32 posted on 09/28/2005 11:09:53 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

Appears the TX Chicken RATS been waiting for this since 2001 when they ran for cover because they didn't want a quorum in the state legislature to plan redistricting, and they blamed their problems on DeLay then.


33 posted on 09/28/2005 11:10:00 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: kellynla

Payback is painful. DeLay almost singlehandedly locked in the Republican majority in Congess by his redistricting effort in Texas. This is sour grapes for the Dems. More chicken-sh*tted stuff rather competing on the issues.

DeLay is a strongwilled, go for the jugular Republican not a weak-kneed appologetic Republican. That makes him a target.

Drier is a better face for the Republicans anyway. He'll win more votes.


34 posted on 09/28/2005 11:10:22 AM PDT by playball0
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To: Tarpon
If the article said

"Hillary and her associates insisted the corporate money was legally spent on committee overhead or issue advertising and not campaign-related activity."

who here would say it was anything but legal parsing of words and distortion?

35 posted on 09/28/2005 11:11:07 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: RetiredArmy

Why don't you wait until the trial before you throw him to the wolves. It's incredibly easy to get a Grand Jury indictment. Look at Earle's success (none) in these partisan witch hunts and then tell me you believe DeLay will be convicted. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts he'll be acquitted. Meantime the MSM will have a field day with this.


36 posted on 09/28/2005 11:11:08 AM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Democrat Senator Bobby Torricelli had more problems in his basket than Delay. Cash, Rolex, antiques, custom suits, jewelry for girlfriend and Mercedes and probably more. Ethics problems? Nah. Illegal? Nah. Two fundraisers went to jail but not little Bobby. There was more but everyone is expected to shutup about it. How about candidate Corizine giving a bunch of money to a female NJ union leader?

Here is to Danny Rostenkowski, Jimmy Traficant and Congressman G.Studds of Cape Cod.

37 posted on 09/28/2005 11:11:35 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: RetiredArmy

Your point is well-taken, but I hold to a classical definition of Law formulated by Thomas Aquinas: "an ordinance of reason for the common good, promulgated by him who has the care of the community."

Only in as much as a law truly reflects the common good and is promulgated by a just authority is it truly a law, that is, morally binding. Martin Luther King, Jr quoted this definition of law. Just because it is a law on the books does not mean that it is just. Hence, simply because it is on the books does not mean that it should be obeyed. Only in as much as a human law comports with natural law, it is just.

Now, I do not know the nature of this law. I tend to dislike campaign finance law all-together, unless it simply restricts money coming in from out of the state in the case of state elections.

My main point is to clarify that a law that genuinely promotes the common good is morally obliging whereas one that does not promote the common good is not morally obliging and is only called a law because it resembles law superficially.


38 posted on 09/28/2005 11:12:21 AM PDT by SaintThomasMorePrayForUs
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To: La Enchiladita

I'm more confident since he stepped down.
He doesn't appear to be hiding, and he isn't putting himself before the party.
Unlike numerous other politicians time won't allow me to name...


39 posted on 09/28/2005 11:12:45 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: playball0
Drier is a better face for the Republicans anyway.

Oh yes, David Drier is a great conservative...

Sheesh, do I need to say ((sarcasm))??

40 posted on 09/28/2005 11:13:08 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: altura

It is my understanding that Grand Juries are presented only with the evidence that would support indictment or that the evidence leans disproportianately in that direction. Also isn't it the judge who decides what evidence shall be presented? Someone correct me if I am wrong. But isn't the grand jury's proceedings not subject to the same rules of discovery that an actual trial would be?
I would be very cautious in concluding that this indictment is any proof of wrong doing.


41 posted on 09/28/2005 11:13:51 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Having served in a Texas DA's office for over ten years, I will let you in on a little secret. The DA can get anyone indicted he wants. He is the presenter of the facts, and makes recommendations to the grand jury.


42 posted on 09/28/2005 11:14:21 AM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Semper Fi)
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To: playball0
Drier is a better face for the Republicans anyway. He'll win more votes.

Think so? Wait until the Dims really start throwing out the rumors about Dreier being gay, and everyone here and in the MSM who is braying in triumph over DeLay's indictment starts hounding Dreier and calling him a "queer".

43 posted on 09/28/2005 11:15:43 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: La Enchiladita

The DA is Ronnie Earl a Democrat political hack. He went after Kay Bailey-Hutchinson a few years back. the process played out over about 10 months, cost millions of dollars and the jury came back with not guilty in about 20 minutes.

This is a pure political ploy to neutralize Delay for the mid-term elections. Ronnie Earl couldn't get a conviction if his life depended on it. Interestingly his job never does.


45 posted on 09/28/2005 11:17:16 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: Jarhead1957
Having served in a Texas DA's office for over ten years

Since you have some inside info, what kind of prosecution record do they have down there?

46 posted on 09/28/2005 11:18:04 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: CMAC51
Ronnie Earl couldn't get a conviction if his life depended on it.

So basically he's their Larry Klayman.

47 posted on 09/28/2005 11:18:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: Jarhead1957

Or should I say what is their rate of conviction?


48 posted on 09/28/2005 11:19:58 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: kellynla
PowerLine's post with Delay's statement reveals another pathetic partisan attack by Earle...



DeLay has issued the following statement:

These charges have no basis in the facts or the law. This is just another example of Ronnie Earle misusing his office for partisan vendettas. Despite the clearly political agenda of this prosecutor, Congressman DeLay has cooperated with officials throughout the entire process. Even in the last two weeks, Ronnie Earle himself had acknowledged publicly that Mr. DeLay was not a target of his investigation. However, as with many of Ronnie Earle's previous partisan investigations, Ronnie Earle refused to let the facts or the law get in the way of his partisan desire to indict a political foe.

This purely political investigation has been marked by illegal grand jury leaks, a fundraising speech by Ronnie Earle for Texas Democrats that inappropriately focused on the investigation, misuse of his office for partisan purposes, and extortion of money for Earle's pet projects from corporations in exchange for dismissing indictments he brought against them. Ronnie Earle's previous misuse of his office has resulted in failed prosecutions and we trust his partisan grandstanding will strike out again, as it should.

Ronnie Earle's 1994 indictment against Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison was quickly dismissed and his charges in the 1980s against former Attorney General Jim Mattox-another political foe of Earle-fell apart at trial.

We regret the people of Texas will once again have their taxpayer dollars wasted on Ronnie Earle's pursuit of headlines and political paybacks. Ronnie Earle began this investigation in 2002, after the Democrat Party lost the Texas state legislature to Republicans. For three years and through numerous grand juries, Ronnie Earle has tried to manufacture charges against Republicans involved in winning those elections using arcane statutes never before utilized in a case in the state. This indictment is nothing more than prosecutorial retribution by a partisan Democrat.

49 posted on 09/28/2005 11:21:02 AM PDT by Minnesocold (Truth itself is the one enemy against which liberalism cannot prevail. -Christopher Adamo)
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To: lastchance
No judge is involved in Grand Jury. He appoints them and that is it.

They can look at any fact, or non fact without reguard to how it was gained.

A member of the DA's office is present to guide and present facts.

The Grand Jury can ask the member of the DA's office to leave, and then they are refered to as a runaway Grand Jury.

50 posted on 09/28/2005 11:21:29 AM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Semper Fi)
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