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Judge Orders 17-Year-Old Girl Not To Have Sex [also prohibited tattoos, body piercings...
WNBC.COM ^

Posted on 09/30/2005 7:42:20 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Judge Orders 17-Year-Old Girl Not To Have Sex

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 30, 2005

SHERMAN, Texas -- No sex. That's part of a sentence imposed on a 17-old-girl by Texas state district judge Lauri Blake.

She's ordered the young drug offender not have sex as long as she is living with her parents and attending school, as a condition of her probation.

It is one of several unorthodox rulings Judge Lauri Blake has imposed since she was elected 10 months ago in the district court that covers Fannin and Grayson counties.

She has also prohibited tattoos, body piercings, earrings and clothing "associated with the drug culture" for those on probation.

Lawyers are also subject to her rulings. Blake has the told female attorneys not wear sleeveless shirts or show cleavage in her courtroom.

Blake agreed to an interview but later declined through her court coordinator.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: courtruling; itsjustsex; juveniledelinquency; libertinarians; minor; probation; sex; teensex; texas
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To: InsureAmerica
Seems to me the judge wouldn't have had to order a damned thing if this girl wouldn't have been in her court. Right?

So, you support judicial activism when it applies to criminals? It's ok for judges to force their moral views on criminals as a condition of probation? You are ok with liberal judges forcing conservative people to follow liberal morals as a condition of probation?
41 posted on 09/30/2005 8:04:51 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: ClearCase_guy

Probation is not a right, and, if a judge sees fit to impose it, he/she may impose any condition she wants if it arguably is aimed at preventing illicit behavior. Only if the perp is violated because of this no sex provision and subsequently imprisoned would habeas corpus apply, ergo no immediate appeal. Sorry, libs.








42 posted on 09/30/2005 8:05:05 AM PDT by Dionysius (ACLU is the enemy)
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To: mlc9852

I don't need a judge telling me that my daughters can or cannot have sex.

Just to fit some activist judges adgenda


43 posted on 09/30/2005 8:05:55 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: InsureAmerica

I'm not the one supporting judicial activism and being a hypocrite. If not wanting judges to impose their own definition of sexual morality as a condition of probation is wacko, then I guess I'm a wacko.


44 posted on 09/30/2005 8:06:11 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

You know me? you know what I do for a living? What my political leanings are? where I live, my address, my health, my financial position, my position on the issues of the day, the ages of my children, how many cars I have?
My religion?

The answer to all of the above is NO, you don't. So, we conclude you know nothing at all about me, yet for some amazing reason you know I "support judicial activism when the judge mimics my idealogy" You are amazing. Ever think about having your own talk show??


45 posted on 09/30/2005 8:06:44 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: InsureAmerica

Not only in her court, but a convicted, minor in her court.

I get tired of hearing about convicts rights. Convicts give up rights. They do not have the right to freedom, to carry weapons, association, to vote, etc.

A minor can certainly lose the "right" to have intercourse.


46 posted on 09/30/2005 8:06:48 AM PDT by FarmerW
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To: InsureAmerica
What I'm asking is do you support judicial activism when it doesn't agree with your personal moral beliefs, or do you only support it when it does?
47 posted on 09/30/2005 8:08:28 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: drt1

What powers does the Oregon State Constitution have over the people of Texas?


48 posted on 09/30/2005 8:09:57 AM PDT by SolarisRocks
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To: FarmerW

Absolutely. Too bad some here can't seem to get it.

Like the joke-- 2 liberals find a man horribly beaten and mugged, lying in a ditch. One looks to the other and says, "we have to find the person who did this, he needs our help"


49 posted on 09/30/2005 8:10:28 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: mysterio

I am sure we define judicial activism differently. I am positive about it, but to answer your question - I support neither.


50 posted on 09/30/2005 8:11:33 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: FarmerW
A minor can certainly lose the "right" to have intercourse

Could the judge make her have intercourse?

If not, how can a judge have the authority to make her not engage in an activity yet not have the power to make her engage in that same activity?

51 posted on 09/30/2005 8:11:37 AM PDT by gdani
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To: hombre_sincero
Cool off. I was just pointing out the idiocy of the blanket use of the warped interpretation of the Constitution's Free Speech and Expression guarantees. Texas or not, there will be some moron (AKA an ACLU protagonist) who will attack this judge's ruling on just those grounds. They will likely focus on the prohibition against body piercing, tattooing and dress restrictions as the basis for letting this girl continue to ruin her life.

They are unable to distinguish between Freedom and License and therefore nothing can be prohibited and chaos will emerge - Which IMO is exactly what they want.

52 posted on 09/30/2005 8:12:41 AM PDT by drt1
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To: SolarisRocks

Please see my post # 52


53 posted on 09/30/2005 8:13:57 AM PDT by drt1
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To: gdani

why such a ridiculous post. this would be criminal, so no, a judge couldn't.


54 posted on 09/30/2005 8:14:16 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: Rightly Biased
You keep your daughters out of the criminal justice system, and you will never have to worry about this.

Probation is purely a privilege. If she doesn't want to fulfil the conditions of probation, she can serve her sentence in confinement. If her parents don't "need a judge telling me that my daughters can or cannot have sex," they can come visit her in the lockup. Better yet, she could consider not committing the crime in the first place, and her parents could consider finding her a new school/new set of friends.

Trial courts are given a great deal of latitude in imposing conditions of probation. If any logical connection can be shown between the condition and preventing a re-offense, then it is permitted.

This is really along the lines of your standard probation condition requiring the criminal to avoid bad company, especially other criminals. Since she was sentenced for a drug offense, it can be argued that this is logically related to discourage trading sex for drugs and reduce the incentive for her to hang with her druggy friends.

55 posted on 09/30/2005 8:16:14 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: gdani
If not, how can a judge have the authority to make her not engage in an activity yet not have the power to make her engage in that same activity?

Judges stop minors from having intercourse everyday. It's called a Juvenile Detention Facility. It is not unrealistic to impose as a condition of probation something that is imposed at incarceration.

Go to a juvenile detention facility and inform the CO's the child has a right to have sex and let me know how that works out for ya'.

56 posted on 09/30/2005 8:17:20 AM PDT by FarmerW
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To: mlc9852

Yep, the minor son of a friend of mine got in personal possession trouble - it's now $12000 and it's not over yet ...


57 posted on 09/30/2005 8:17:56 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Rightly Biased
Can you really judge "self-righteousness" with only the wording of this report?

I am wondering if this girl had been trading sex for drugs; maybe sex for other services related to this report.

If I were a judge, I would set a dress code for my court room that would insist on modesty: (1.) to minimize unnecessary distractions; (2.) to establish a proper decorum in the court. Many styles of sleeveless clothing are immodest and can be indecent and improper for the courtroom. If one cannot understand the potential distractions of exposing cleavages, then one simply does not want to understand. It has nothing to do with "self-righteousness."

I'm not really sure that a judge could not actually require a uniform to be worn by the officers of his court. And if I understand correctly, ALL bar lawyers are "officers of the court," whether they are private attorneys or employed by the various government jurisdictions.
58 posted on 09/30/2005 8:18:35 AM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: FarmerW
Go to a juvenile detention facility and inform the CO's the child has a right to have sex and let me know how that works out for ya'.

Unfortunately, Blue State jailers might very well buy it. The ACLU has set up copulation as the second most sacred of human rights (the first being abortion). I expect that it will not be long before judges begin ruling that denying inmates of any age that right is cruel and unusual punishment.

59 posted on 09/30/2005 8:21:41 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: cinives

Guess he learned the hard, very hard, way.


60 posted on 09/30/2005 8:21:46 AM PDT by mlc9852
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