Posted on 09/30/2005 11:52:47 AM PDT by jimbo123
Grand juries work in mysterious ways.
I used to love "The Judy Miller show" on TV in the 1970s.... Oh wait that was a Saturday Night Live character by Gilda Radner.
What do you make of this? (Much more of interest follows this statement.)
Yes, it would seem that Judith Miller was protecting a number of sources.
If Libby first learned of the name of Wilson's wife in the Novak article, that means Libby only knew Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, but was unable to pass on her name.
It would seem logical that a reporter learning that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA -- and it appears Libby's claim was that it was the CIA acting on Wilson's wife's recommendation rather than Vice President Cheney as Wilson claimed who sent Wilson to Niger -- that the reporter would want to determine if that were true. The simplest path to determining the truth or falsehood of that whether Wilson's wife worked for the CIA would be for the reporter to contact Wilson and ask, "Joe, does your wife work for the CIA?"
My money is still on Joe Wilson having been the source of the information that his wife worked for the CIA -- and he is clearly the source of the furor about his wife being a "covert operative" which she hasn't been for about a decade or more.
Will it? Or will it remain secret, except for the illusion that Libby is somehow "dirty" in this? Whether planned or not, it's certainly a good way to smear someone.
what I make of that is two fold:
- Tate is a jerk for not understanding that this second "personal" waiver was merely part of the spin and smear operation from the MSM. why he took the call and provided it, I have no friggin idea.
- he should be out there giving a press conference with statements like the one quoted here, statements about how the waiver had already been in place, to defend the name of his client - because his client is getting smeared right now.
Oh, she definitely thinks of herself as a "martyr" for the cause of her "principles"--did you see her press conference? What a crock that was.
indeed. the likely outcome of all this is that the grand jury will close, neither Rove nor Libby will be indicted, but that story will be on page 23 - while the MSM is "indiciting" first Rove, and now Libby, for the sheeple's consumption.
I read that in another article although it was worded somewhat differently. That is why she is now willing to testify and it has nothing to do with a waiver from Libby.
But what does this tell you about the grand jury investigation? Does it mean they have determined no law was broken with regards to leaking a CIA agent and Fitzgerald is now looking into perjury or obstruction?
Something here is totally wacked, either they will determine no laws were broken or its turned into a witch hunt. That's the only way this makes any sense to me.........
Maybe, but hardly anyone knows who Libby is anyway. And the Libs can't smear Rove much more than they already have (but they will try).
Why would anyone want to smear a guy named "Scooter"?
The MSM plus Fox--lately they've been perfectly awful about this story. It's not so much that they want to smear Libby or probably even Rove for that matter--it's just that anyone they can smear at all, up to and including the family dog, will hurt the President. He is their true target. The latest mantra I'm hearing (and it's almost funny, considering who it's coming from) is that the Bush admin is surrounded by a "culture of corruption." After all the Clinton years, to hear this from the 'Rats, it's just mind-boggling.
Because his own name is "Pinch"?
-PJ
It would seem logical that a reporter learning that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA -- and it appears Libby's claim was that it was the CIA acting on Wilson's wife's recommendation rather than Vice President Cheney as Wilson claimed who sent Wilson to Niger -- that the reporter would want to determine if that were true. The simplest path to determining the truth or falsehood of that whether Wilson's wife worked for the CIA would be for the reporter to contact Wilson and ask, "Joe, does your wife work for the CIA?"
My money is still on Joe Wilson having been the source of the information that his wife worked for the CIA -- and he is clearly the source of the furor about his wife being a "covert operative" which she hasn't been for about a decade or more.
Cheney's office knew nothing about Wilson's trip. It has been established that the non-proliferation department sent Wilson on their own volition. Of course Libby would have no idea why Joe was sent until Wilson wrote his outrageous op-ed and started asking.
As to Wilson, it seems more than likely he told some reporters before his op-ed was even published about his wife. After all, Wilson was giving them his story anonymously first before he went public.
As to that decision, Cliff May articulates several points well today:
We now know that beginning in 1999, Whos Who in America was carrying a bio of Joseph Wilson -- naming Valerie Plame as his wife.
That means that when Wilson sat down to write his now famous op-ed for The New York Times, both he and Mrs. Wilson had to recognize the consequences: From the moment it was published, anyone she dealt with in her undercover capacity would be able to easily discover that she was the wife of someone who undertakes assignments for the CIA.
Surely, that would severely limit her ability to work undercover. What is the chance that a foreign agent would agree to buy prohibited weaponry or computers from the wife of a CIA contractor? How open would a foreign spy be in speaking to the wife of a CIA informant?
In other words, as soon as the Times published Wilsons piece and before Bob Novak printed her name in his column and David Corn provided details about her CIA work and cover story in the Nations online edition -- Plames career as a covert agent had, effectively, been terminated.
One has to expect that the prosecutor will take that into consideration in determining whether a crime has been committed by anyone.
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Relax. Nobody...absolutely no one...is buying Miller's "Oh, I just got a personal waiver" story.
Tate did fine. It would be worse to have "no comment" when his client has nothing to hide and his actions support have supported that.
Yup. We're supposed to believe she spent months in jail because of some misunderstanding about an old waiver, even though she has two of the smartest and best connected lawyers on the planet??? What ticks me off is the MSM really thinks we're stupid enough to believe this.
Exactly! THis is the same crap the other one pulled. They had given a SIGNED waiver. I believe that she went to jail and will "cover" for her other sources and throw Libby to the wolves. And the other sources will be protected!
It's reporters that are Stuck on Stupid!
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