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U.S. Launches Military Offensive in Iraq(Al-Qaim)
NY Post ^ | Oct 1,2005 | MOHAMMED BARAKAT

Posted on 10/01/2005 5:11:19 AM PDT by Dog

QAIM, Iraq (AP) -- About 1,000 U.S. troops, backed by attack helicopters, swarmed into a tiny Iraqi village near the Syrian border Saturday in an offensive aimed at rooting out fighters from al-Qaida in Iraq, the country's most feared militant group, the military said.

The assault, the latest in a series of major operations this year by U.S. forces in the heartland of the Sunni-led insurgency, targeted the village of Sadah, which the military said was a base for al-Qaida militants and foreign fighters entering from Syria.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; gwot; iraq; ironfist; oif; qaim
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To: yut
If you're really a Marine thank you for your service.
Almost all FReepers are rabid supporters of the military.
Many of us are also vets.

That said, anyone can post anything on FR, but until they've been around a little longer than a week their postings will be suspect.
Those identified as Trolls get nuked, those who actually add substance to our forum gain credibility and are listened to by fellow Freepers.

I sincerely hope you are who you claim to be and if you are you'll be shown the respect due to a Marine.

21 posted on 10/01/2005 6:41:27 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Osama Bin Laden Al Khanzier)
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To: Dog

Isn't it about time some Syrian troops "fired on" the Marines?


22 posted on 10/01/2005 6:44:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase (New Orleans rebuild by Mexican Labor will produce crawfish tacos and menuedo-gumbo.)
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To: ASA Vet

I have been on and off of this forum for a few years. As anyone knows the internet allows you to be a say anything.
Most of you will probably not like some of my view points on the insurgency operation we are involved in, feel free to critisize. And yes this is my third time. And it has gotten dumber and dumber. And as the repeaters like myself, continue to come here again and again, expect to hear some challenges to the current situation that will probably make some folks upset at FR.
If anyone could tell me how muslims going to vote will make our country safer I am listening.


23 posted on 10/01/2005 6:55:19 AM PDT by yut
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To: xzins
It's time to quit play laos/cambodia with Syria and the WOT. Hit the enemies wherever they are. It's that simple.

That would include Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

24 posted on 10/01/2005 7:00:36 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: yut
If anyone could tell me how muslims going to vote will make our country safer I am listening.

You might be interested in reading this: http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/published/pentagonsnewmap.htm

25 posted on 10/01/2005 7:01:04 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Absolutely. I'm more concerned with Saudi, Iran, Egypt, Yemen, Pakistan, and Somalia than with Jordan. But they are on the list.


26 posted on 10/01/2005 7:04:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: bnelson44

I have read it. It is a good read that I found did not confront directly the role that islam plays in any culture it resides in and around. I think we allowed our selves into being deluded that a democracy here equates to safety back home.
The place I am in everyone would vote to cut off my head.


27 posted on 10/01/2005 7:11:38 AM PDT by yut
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To: Dog

Fire em up, troops! Fire em up!!

OOW-RAH,
J. Scott Davis


28 posted on 10/01/2005 7:14:47 AM PDT by jscottdavis_for_48th_district (J. SCOTT DAVIS http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jscottdavisfanclub DAVIS- HOLLYWOOD'S NEXT ACTION HERO)
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To: Dog

Iraqi youngsters shout holding the remains of an US military vehicle destroyed by a road side bomb in Ramadi, Iraq, Saturday Oct. 1 2005. About 1,000 U.S. service members launched an offensive in western Iraq near the Syrian border on Saturday aimed insurgents from this country's most feared militant group, Al-Qaida in Iraq, the military said.(AP Photo/Bilal Hussein)

Take photos, find out who these people are, and interrogate them.


29 posted on 10/01/2005 7:17:14 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: yut

Right now us leaving Iraq as an al-Qaeda paradise and industrial center will contribute significantly to the lack of safety at home. It simply is not a viable option.

There are places in Iraq that are very religious, and there are places that are not so. You might be interested in reading this latest survey of Iraqi businessmen:

http://www.cipe.org/regional/mena/Zogbyreport05.pdf


30 posted on 10/01/2005 7:23:04 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: yut

God Bless you, yut, and we'll pray that HE will keep you safe. Terrorism is a zero sum game. You're in the game and we're rooting for and proud of you. We need to win this one at all costs.


31 posted on 10/01/2005 7:23:52 AM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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To: BushisTheMan

Ramadi is no where near Syria.

By the way, we are not hearing much about Ramadi, but something is happening there.


32 posted on 10/01/2005 7:24:33 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: bnelson44

Al Qaeda exist in many places besides Iraq, including the west. It has been a marriage of convenience between the sunni tribes and AQ. At the end of the day we could be here for a 100 years and still have AQ with the current approach.
But AQ is not why I am here, setting up a muslim democracy is, after tossing out Saddam and the WMD. And once again how does a muslim getting to vote make us safer. Do not think I am advocating leaving though.


33 posted on 10/01/2005 7:29:39 AM PDT by yut
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To: bnelson44

I am now currently in Ramadi. It is all part of the 2MarDiv AO. It is intresting to read and see us in the news. It is business as usual here.


34 posted on 10/01/2005 7:31:47 AM PDT by yut
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To: yut
Are you offering your own update on Semper Fi? What is it now, Semper Maybe? Semper When-I-Wanna?

I know many Marines, officer and enlisted alike. None of them would do what you're doing here.

35 posted on 10/01/2005 7:34:39 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

Ahh, so now I am negative.
What I want is to win.
Please be free to point out any inaccuracies and save the just shut up and take it crap.


36 posted on 10/01/2005 7:40:14 AM PDT by yut
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To: yut
You leave, al-Qaeda (with the Baathists) take over. It really is that simple. So leaving is out of the question. Now that we have that out of the way.

The war on terror is a war on extreme militant Islam (not against Islam in general, which can be very mundane). Extremism, what you are worried about, thrives where people are oppressed (that was the theme of the book I pointed you to, The Pentagon's New Map). You can prove it statistically (he does in the book).

Also, as Dr. Rice said yesterday at Princeton: "Extremism is most dangerous when it lurks in the dark and hides underground. When there is no political space for individuals to advance their interests and redress their grievances, then they retreat into the shadows to grow ever more radical and divorced from reality. We saw the result of that on September 11th and now we must work to advance democratic reform throughout the greater Middle East."

The ultimate goal (and it is a big one which may not be fully achievable) in Iraq is to establish a foothold of democracy in an Arab nation and hope it spreads with a little help from its friends.

So, you are left with 2 things here:
1) You can't leave without finishing the mission because al-Qaeda will gain too many material and political resources with which to attach your homeland.
2) You have a very moralistic and humanitarian goal which may be achievable.

37 posted on 10/01/2005 7:41:25 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: yut
I am now currently in Ramadi

you get rain?

38 posted on 10/01/2005 7:43:06 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: bnelson44

We get rain, but it is not yet the rainy season.
What I challenge is that oppression leads to extremism. The most extreme of these terrorist are coming from middle to upper class families, many educated and living, born, and raised in the west.
I absolutly do not advocate leaving. Just think it is very implausible to assume that islamic terrorism will decline with the ability to vote in the middle east.


39 posted on 10/01/2005 7:52:43 AM PDT by yut
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To: yut

Mate, I agree with your take on the broader picture. Good luck though


40 posted on 10/01/2005 7:53:30 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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