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Giuliani: I'm Considering 2008 Bid
NewsMax ^ | 10/2/05 | AP

Posted on 10/02/2005 9:21:43 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I'd take a bit of issue with using "brains" to refer to Hannity.


341 posted on 10/25/2005 6:19:35 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.)
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To: nmh

And here I thought it was the liberalizing of our economic policy that was costing us so dearly.


342 posted on 10/25/2005 6:23:18 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: HitmanNY
It's infantile for them to put the nation in the hands of the Clintons again. It's also dangerous. If enough of our constituency is this short sighted and immature, maybe our best bet is to ditch them and build consensus with others.

You're missing the point. There are lots and lots of people nationwide who are not political. They don't vote strategically. A huge chunk hardly votes at all. They may or may not be registered with a party but they don't think of themselves as part of their party.

They are disconnected voters. They get up off their rears and vote when something or someone comes along where they can say , I get it. I agree with that guy. A lot of them are moral conservatives who think of the entire political process as evil and corrupt. Reagan pulled a huge chunk of disconnected voters off their couches because he said things they had been waiting to hear, and they agreed with him on the important issues.

Giuliani won't do that, because he's more of the same to them. They won't make a strategic vote, they just won't vote at all. It's not a childish tantrum, it's more like you not buying any shoes because nothing caught your eye in the shoe store that day. They will just sigh and go back to what they were doing.

I have met these voters in droves over the years. I understand them, but it doesn't mean I would vote that way. Nonetheless their behavior is predictable and they exist in large numbers in every corner of the country.

343 posted on 10/25/2005 9:32:26 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Mr. Blonde

"And here I thought it was the liberalizing of our economic policy that was costing us so dearly.'

You were WRONG!

The lowering of our social mores ALWAYS costs us - not just emotionally but financially as well - remember the dirty needle trade in program for drug users? The same kind of think.


344 posted on 10/25/2005 9:59:18 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

Maybe but Bush was elected as a strong social conservative and hasn't succeeded in turning back the tide much. I would rather hold the dam as it were on the social side if we could get someone in office who knows how to live within their means.


345 posted on 10/25/2005 10:06:28 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: wagglebee

Don't.
The same goes for Newt Gingrich. Just don't.


346 posted on 10/25/2005 10:06:38 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Little Ray

Well, I'd take my personal pick of Tom Delay/General Honore as the next dream team for the republicans in '08. Delay is a tough stance, 1 woman man who doesn't back down from the media thugs, and General Honore could herd the sheep in congress like no other general in recent history. THAT's my dream team: PRESIDENT DELAY/VP HONORE!


347 posted on 10/25/2005 10:20:15 AM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: Little Ray
I think Newt would have a better chance getting the nomination than Guiliani or Rice; however, I don't think Newt would have any chance of winning the general election.

Unless, things change considerably, I really feel that George Allen is the best possible candidate: he is conservative, he is charismatic, he is popular AND HE CAN WIN. The GOP's biggenst problem in the past has been their inability to understand the need to nominate somebody who actually has a chance of winning (i.e. Bob Dole in 96 never had a chance).

348 posted on 10/25/2005 10:26:27 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Hannity/Coulter 2008.

Hilarious.

349 posted on 10/25/2005 10:37:26 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Lashed to the USS George W. Bush: "Damn the Torpedos, Full Miers Ahead!!")
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To: Owen

I think Rudy should run for Governor of New York next year, he would easily defeat Elliot Spitzer and be perfectly positioned to be George Allen's or Mark Sandford's running mate in 08. But, I guess he wants the WH himself, and if that's the case he's going to have to change or seriously moderate his positions on some social issues before I would consider supporting him. Currently I'm leaning to Allen.


350 posted on 10/25/2005 11:48:36 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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