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Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:
WorlsNetDaily ^ | 9/21/05 | Jesse Lee Peterson

Posted on 10/04/2005 7:09:03 AM PDT by GrandEagle

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:

1)What would you do?

2)What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

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Ok folks, be nice. I posted this because I think this guy may have the answer to saving the black population from the big government nanny.
He says what no white man could politically say and survive.

GE
1 posted on 10/04/2005 7:09:10 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle
Sheesh...anything we say compared to what the author has already said has got to be nice! That guy is harsh!

Quite possibly true, but harsh!
2 posted on 10/04/2005 7:15:00 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: GrandEagle

Just someone saying what needs to be said, at least about those whom the shoe fits.

In all fairness, though, with a city whose population is/was 67% black, 47% of the population of NOLA got out despite being black (at a minimum--70% of the blacks there). The moral poverty of which he speaks obviously didn't affect everyone.


3 posted on 10/04/2005 7:19:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: hiredhand; Admin Moderator
I do hope this only got posted once. I kept getting a "not available at this time" error.

GE
4 posted on 10/04/2005 7:19:47 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle
By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

The "REAL" Rev. Jesse

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:

1. What would you do?

2. What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, then you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on "racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans, above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America, "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.

Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform – legally and practically – fell first on the mayor of New Orleans. We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin – the black Democrat who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's wailing.

As the Washington Times puts it, "recent reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan, which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city."

One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now – the photo showing 200 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out.

About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years.

The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.

All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty – not their material poverty – that cost them dearly in New Orleans. Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated – they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans, to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so.

The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of "Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America.

5 posted on 10/04/2005 7:21:40 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Smokin' Joe
In all fairness, though, with a city whose population is/was 67% black, 47% of the population of NOLA got out despite being black
Very true. It is not a "one size fits all" shoe.

GE
6 posted on 10/04/2005 7:21:45 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle

He's also parroting the lies about the Superdome violence and painting the black community with the same brush.

Yes, he's a critic of his own but also sounds like a man who doesn't like black people.


7 posted on 10/04/2005 7:21:59 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: GrandEagle

I still only see it once. :-)


8 posted on 10/04/2005 7:26:28 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: GrandEagle

"About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder. "

WOW - imagine if this guy wasnt black and he said this.


9 posted on 10/04/2005 7:27:00 AM PDT by philsfan24
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To: misterrob
He's also parroting the lies about the Superdome violence and painting the black community with the same brush.

For many many years there were grave injustices done to the Blacks in this country. That, I believe, was the single most destructive fault of the founders. I read an article once that commented that the only reason they didn't abolish slavery in the original Constitution was that they didn't want a war on two fronts at the same time. For whatever reason, that decision turned out to be a bad one.
Unfortunately, the cure as applied in this country, has been as bad or worse as the disease. IMHO

Cordially,
GE
10 posted on 10/04/2005 7:28:38 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle

I would never live in a city!

Next question.


11 posted on 10/04/2005 7:29:04 AM PDT by airborne (My hero - my nephew! Sean is home! Thank you God!)
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To: GrandEagle
Not that we see many hurricanes in Michigan. However, assuming that I live on high ground I would probably store supplies for a couple of weeks and hunker down for a hurricane under a category 3. I suppose I would take pre storm photos of the house and property for insurance purposes. In the case of a stronger hurricane I would do the same except I would get out of the way of the storm.

I would want to return as quickly as possible to get started on clean up. Since I run a small business and repair small engines like chainsaws, generators and mowers, my neighbors would be happy to have me available. We take care of ourselves and each other out here.
12 posted on 10/04/2005 7:29:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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13 posted on 10/04/2005 7:29:32 AM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: evets

Lol...That hurricane needs a pancake in the middle of it.


14 posted on 10/04/2005 7:31:06 AM PDT by Fawn (Try Not----Do or Do not ~~ Yoda)
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To: GrandEagle

Unfortunately, if we agree, we will be labled racist. Even if we are black. If you are black, and say these things, you are considered in a self-hatred mode.

Harsh, but true. This whole article.


15 posted on 10/04/2005 7:31:21 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: GrandEagle

Sadly, I have to agree with the article. Living here in Houston, I got a chance to see first hand how quickly our city has changed. Granted, Houston, like any big city, has it's share of poor/ghetto Black neighborhoods, but it's as if a new dimension of ghetto has recently arrived. There's almost a Hurricane Katrina syndrome. You can almost spot evacuees on the street, in banks and grocery stores, not to mention what they've done to the Astrodome and the Convention Center. Now his scenario about what would happen to America if Blacks ran the country is a bit far fetched. How does he explain the many Black affluent upper-middle class neighborhoods in cities like Houston? I suppose there is an antithesis to eveything.


16 posted on 10/04/2005 7:32:10 AM PDT by xavnhoutx
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To: GrandEagle
Regarding the whole New Orleans debacle I have had one question that no one apparently has even considered:

Exactly how much money do you have to have to do something to save the lives of you and your family.

17 posted on 10/04/2005 7:34:52 AM PDT by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: misterrob

>>>Yes, he's a critic of his own but also sounds like a man who doesn't like black people.>>>

Maybe fed up is more like it. Like Bill Cosby.


18 posted on 10/04/2005 7:36:09 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: misterrob
"He's also parroting the lies about the Superdome violence and painting the black community with the same brush"

No, he's not! The only reference he makes is the following quote:

"Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out"

Sorry, no parroting any lies in that quote unless you have some new evidence that the evacuations to the Superdome and convention center worked out just peachy after all.

19 posted on 10/04/2005 7:36:52 AM PDT by Hoof Hearted
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To: misterrob

In fairness to Peterson, the WND article is dated Sept. 21 and likely written well before that.


20 posted on 10/04/2005 7:37:41 AM PDT by SeriousSassy (I know manure when I step in it!)
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To: joesnuffy
When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

This, as we know, is B.S. In Jesse's attempts to be the anti-Jesse, he destroys his credibility.

The largest percentage of black people that I saw on TV still in New Orleans during the week after the hurricane were old folks and people with children. How were they supposed to have gotten out of town if they had no car? The bus station shut down more than a full day before the hurricane even hit. And they certainly aren't to blame for the school busses that didn't get used (I guess some of those "immoral" blacks could have hotwired them, though.) The fact that he still pushes the canard that the Superdome was rife with rapes and murders shows that this Jesse is just as much a race-bating pimp as the other one.
22 posted on 10/04/2005 7:40:07 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: philsfan24
imagine if this guy wasnt black and he said this.

I was worried about being white and just POSTING this.
23 posted on 10/04/2005 7:41:39 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: evets

24 posted on 10/04/2005 7:41:56 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The mods hate me)
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To: joesnuffy

right on point.


25 posted on 10/04/2005 7:44:10 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: GrandEagle

This was, of course, posted twice before when it was more current and used the ORIGINAL title:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1493071/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1490211/posts


26 posted on 10/04/2005 7:45:03 AM PDT by SeriousSassy (I know manure when I step in it!)
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To: GrandEagle

Not living in a hurricane area, for the next big one I would:
1. get there area as soon as possible,
2. build a quick 6X6 foot shanty,
3. evacuate,
4. report loss of house and personal effects,
5. collect my 2000 visa credit,
6. apply for 250000 rebuild money, and
7. go to Disney World.

Did I miss anything?


27 posted on 10/04/2005 7:45:45 AM PDT by UpToHere
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To: GrandEagle

"He says what no white man could politically say and survive"

That's why the "b;ack street" will immediately label him an Oreo. (eg. Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice).

They're following the wrong leaders.


28 posted on 10/04/2005 7:47:07 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: ErnBatavia
"Looter man"! ha ha

29 posted on 10/04/2005 7:47:19 AM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: drjimmy
How were they supposed to have gotten out of town if they had no car?
My "beef" so to speak, is not necessarily with the people of New Orleans. Their leadership failed miserably. They life below sea level and it was no secret that a hurricane of this magnitude would be disastrous.
The city leaders had plenty of time to evacuate most folks.

GE
30 posted on 10/04/2005 7:47:44 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: SeriousSassy
Doggone it! I called myself hunting for this first.
I just saw it today.
That is why I usually don't post - I'm a day late and a dollar short..... again.

GE
31 posted on 10/04/2005 7:50:02 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle

What's a city?


32 posted on 10/04/2005 7:51:12 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. The DNC is his first stop.)
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To: GrandEagle

I looked again at WND and they have some formatting problem since the original was posted that has eliminated the original title, so it's not entirely your fault.


33 posted on 10/04/2005 7:53:59 AM PDT by SeriousSassy (I know manure when I step in it!)
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To: GrandEagle

All I can say about this article is - WOW!


34 posted on 10/04/2005 7:57:50 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: GrandEagle
"The Other Jesse" Bump
35 posted on 10/04/2005 8:01:07 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: GrandEagle
I think this guy may have the answer to saving the black population from the big government nanny. He says what no white man could politically say and survive.

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BOND is a tiny organization that has zero following within its own community. Peterson began his public career with no agenda other than to gain notoriety for himself by hounding Jesse Jackson. His "national repudiate Jesse Jackson day" campaign lasted five years and consisted of him and a half-dozen others standing on a street corner with signs long enough to take some pictures. One wonders who pays their bills.

This piece perfectly illustrates why JLP's listenership includes no measurable percentage of his community; it is racist, insulting, hyperbolic, in some cases demonstrably false and, in its primary underlying assumption, based on legend not fact (we all blamed the MSM for spreading the lies about the "rape, theft and murder" in the superdome and the CC - but we applaud Peterson for condemning it...which is it?.)

Peterson is Roy Innes redux and BOND is CORE redux. CORE never had a following and never accomplished a thing other than to garner the applause of Whites whose own beliefs about Blacks are 'proven' by a Black man saying what they want to hear in these sorts of racist diatribes. BOND will accomplish nothing either.

There are more and more Black Americans turning our way, some of them are regular and respected freepers. Nobody ever changed anybody's philosophy by insulting that person's core-identity group. Hoisting JLP on a high-profile platform just to have him throw broad-stroke insults will not encourage anyone to join us, it will only cause them to reject the messenger and the message.

36 posted on 10/04/2005 8:02:17 AM PDT by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: GrandEagle
>>>The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.


Jabbar Gibson's first time behind the wheel of a school bus was spent transporting dozens of people from New Orleans to the Reliant Astrodome.

A True Leader!!!!

37 posted on 10/04/2005 8:09:38 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: GrandEagle
This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable.

Thanks Jesse! Maybe Al can continue your "work"./sarc off

38 posted on 10/04/2005 8:13:49 AM PDT by kipita (Conservatives: Freedom and Responsibility………Liberals: Freedom from Responsibility)
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To: wtc911
I am unaware of BOND. Thanks for the information.
I would, however, take a slightly different position on a couple of comments.

Nobody ever changed anybody's philosophy by insulting that person's core-identity group.
Your point is well taken. However, to dance around the problem, (ie government dependence) will never solve any problem.
This attitude that it is the governments responsibility to take care on me fosters laziness and irresponsibility. As pointed out by a couple of other posters, there were people in New Orleans who stepped up to the plate and by taking matters into their own hands, probably saved many lives.
Unfortunately they were too few and too far between.
Just slide over to the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Complete devastation in many areas. You don't here too much whining about "where is the government" from them.
In my neighborhood, we were not devastated but several had significant damage. We took care of each other.
Good or bad, his point is good for all people. There is no substitute for preparation and taking care of yourself.

Cordially,
GE
39 posted on 10/04/2005 8:27:11 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Hoof Hearted
It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

This is what I was referring to....

40 posted on 10/04/2005 8:28:00 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: drjimmy
The largest percentage of black people that I saw on TV still in New Orleans during the week after the hurricane were old folks and people with children.

While I don't agree entirely what was said, I'd have to agree that New Orleans blacks have not progressed, in fact digressed, over the last 40 years. People have become more violent, selfish, irresponsible, and indifferent. Furthermore, kids and old folks have relatives, every kid and grandparent I know left with family.

41 posted on 10/04/2005 8:28:46 AM PDT by kipita (Conservatives: Freedom and Responsibility………Liberals: Freedom from Responsibility)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
What's a city?
LOL! I don't like them either!
42 posted on 10/04/2005 8:29:19 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: wtc911

Well put.


43 posted on 10/04/2005 8:30:22 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: GrandEagle

Reverend Peterson always tells it like it is. He's going to have the likes of Jackson, Farrakhan, Sharpton, McKinney, Waters, etc, howling for his head on a platter.

It doesn't matter, because Rev. Peterson doesn't answer to them.


44 posted on 10/04/2005 8:31:47 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: drjimmy
You didnt hear the factual tales of folks that wouldnt leave NO because they were afraid of missing out on their welfare checks?
45 posted on 10/04/2005 8:34:16 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: GrandEagle
1)What would you do?

I'd wonder how in the hell a hurricane made it all the way to Michigan.

46 posted on 10/04/2005 8:37:27 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: GrandEagle

Let me answer the first question. It would never get that far. After the first time I would have to board up my house, I would leave that area so fast my head would be spinning after that.


47 posted on 10/04/2005 8:37:36 AM PDT by NathanR (Mexico: So far from God; So close to the USA.)
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To: airborne
I would never live in a city!

I know what you mean! I moved to the country 3 years ago, and I love it. I do like to go shopping in the city, once and a while, but after spending one day in the city, it makes me very happy to come back to the peacefulness of the country! I like being able to step out my back door and go shooting. :o)

48 posted on 10/04/2005 8:39:09 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: NathanR
Let me answer the first question. It would never get that far. After the first time I would have to board up my house, I would leave that area so fast my head would be spinning after that.
Generally speaking, the Federal Flood Insurance program had done more to foster building in dangerous areas than anything else. 30 or so years ago, not many folks built on the beach or barrier islands. If they did, they had the money themselves to risk. With the flood insurance program, then later FEMA stepping in with all kinds of money, they have nothing to loose and just keep building there.
Having said that, generally (unless you live on the beach or a barrier island) hurricanes are more of a nuisance than a danger - for most. I live roughly 15 miles or so from the coast and am about 60 ft above sea level. Until this storm, we have seen only around 80 or so mile an hour winds at my house. I've never even lost a shingle, although I always prepare. (board up, bring everything inside, etc). Usually, after a couple of days of cleaning up fallen trees and trash that was blown around, we are "good to go". Sometimes it takes a week to get power back.

This storm was very unusual. People who had no reason to think they were at risk, lost everything. We have a guy at the office who lived 3 miles from the coast @ 20 feet above sea level - not even a flood zone - who had 12 feet of water in his house. He lost it all, when the water receded quickly it tore his back wall out and washed his stuff into the gulf. We had 120 or so MPH winds at my house. There were 100 mph winds in Hattiesburg MS - 60 miles inland. They had never had even hurricane force winds.
I suppose it is more what one is use to. I couldn't handle a blizzard, or an earthquake.
You just have to stay away from the coast with permanent structures.

Cordially,
GE
49 posted on 10/04/2005 8:57:37 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: michigander
I'd wonder how in the hell a hurricane made it all the way to Michigan
LOL!
50 posted on 10/04/2005 9:00:06 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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