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Bush Wants Right To Use Military If Bird Flu Hits
Reuters ^ | 10/4/05

Posted on 10/04/2005 12:02:27 PM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON, Oct 4 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush asked Congress on Tuesday to consider giving him powers to use the military to enforce quarantines in case of an avian influenza epidemic.

He said the military, and perhaps the National Guard, might be needed to take such a role if the feared H5N1 bird flu virus changes enough to cause widespread human infection.

"If we had an outbreak somewhere in the United States, do we not then quarantine that part of the country? And how do you, then, enforce a quarantine?" Bush asked at a news conference.

"It's one thing to shut down airplanes. It's another thing to prevent people from coming in to get exposed to the avian flu. And who best to be able to effect a quarantine?" Bush added.

"One option is the use of a military that's able to plan and move. So that's why I put it on the table. I think it's an important debate for Congress to have."

Bird flu has killed more than 60 people in four Asian nations since late 2003 and has been found in birds in Russia and Europe.

Experts fear that the H5N1 bird flu virus, which appears to be highly fatal when it infects people, will develop the ability to pass easily from person to person and would cause a pandemic that would kill millions.

"And I think the president ought to have all ... assets on the table to be able to deal with something this significant," Bush said.

He noted that some governors may object to the federal government commandeering the National Guard, which is under state command in most circumstances.

POLICE DUTIES BANNED

"But Congress needs to take a look at circumstances that may need to vest the capacity of the president to move beyond that debate. And one such catastrophe or one such challenge could be an avian flu outbreak," Bush said.

The active duty military is currently forbidden from undertaking law enforcement duties by the federal Posse Comitatus Act.

That law, passed in 1878 after the U.S. Civil War, does not prohibit National Guard troops under state control from doing police work. But, unless the law is changed, it would keep them from doing so if they were activated by Washington under federal control.

While the law allows the president to order the military to take control and do police work in an extreme emergency, the White House has been traditionally reluctant to usurp state powers.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters he was not aware of any current planning by the military to help respond to a flu pandemic.

But he noted that after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf region, Bush had asked Congress to consider giving the military control over initial response in dealing with major natural or other domestic disasters.

"Obviously the (Defense) Department has a tremendous amount of capability in a lot of areas. And we are a large force," Whitman said, noting also that the military had deployed field hospitals to Louisiana after the hurricanes.

Health experts are working to develop vaccines that would protect against the H5N1 strain of flu, because current influenza vaccines will not.

And countries are also developing stockpiles of drugs that can reduce the risk of serious disease or even sometimes prevent infection -- but supplies and manufacturing capacity are both limited.

Bush said he was involved in planning for an influenza pandemic, which experts say will definitely come, although they cannot predict when, or whether it will be H5N1 or some other virus. (Additional reporting by Maggie Fox)


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To: Protagoras

I knew you were a child...shooo, run along now.


341 posted on 10/05/2005 10:29:40 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

342 posted on 10/05/2005 10:40:16 AM PDT by Protagoras (I often employ hyperbole to make a point)
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To: pbrown

Your bio explains a heck of a lot.


343 posted on 10/05/2005 11:26:14 AM PDT by Protagoras (I often employ hyperbole to make a point)
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To: goodnesswins
Yes, it was on his list according to the Seattle Times

The DUmmies are going to go wild with conspiracy theories over this one.

344 posted on 10/05/2005 11:34:33 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Protagoras

You don't matter enough for me to look at yours...but hey, I interested you enough to look. Grow up.


345 posted on 10/05/2005 11:53:25 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: johnny7
Somethings coming... this is more like something Clinton would've floated!

Yeah, that's how it feels -- something's coming.

346 posted on 10/05/2005 11:57:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (Mapes isn't stuck on stupid, she invented it.)
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To: pbrown
People who have supported Democrats for decades and just recently became Republicans (when the Republicans became indistinguishable from Democrats) and then showed up on a conservative website with the most obtuse arguments ever recorded shouldn't be telling people to grow up.

Like I said, it explains a lot.

It must have been fun supporting Clinton and Gore and Carter and Johnson and Fat Teddy and the rest of the imbeciles before you had that "DUH" moment. LOL

347 posted on 10/05/2005 12:49:57 PM PDT by Protagoras (I often employ hyperbole to make a point)
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To: MarMema

Did you find anything out about you sick birds?


348 posted on 10/05/2005 12:52:55 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Protagoras
It must have been fun supporting Clinton and Gore and Carter and Johnson and Fat Teddy and the rest of the imbeciles before you had that "DUH" moment. LOL

I didn't really start to follow politics till 9-11. It opened my eyes. I supported Clinton and Gore, but I didn't go bananas when Bush won in 2000, I just said, shi$ and let it pass. I didn't care for Carter too much, even back then. The swimmer, I've always hated. Johnson, I was a hippie back then and only heard his name in passing. Teenagers don't care about politicians or politics.

Anything else you'd like to know prima donna?

349 posted on 10/05/2005 1:05:10 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Protagoras
Why do you always use the word, "OBTUSE?" Have you been watching,'The Shawshank Redemption?' That's what you're giving off. The bullying tactic of a prison warden.

Back off or leave me the hell alone. Your choice.

350 posted on 10/05/2005 1:10:02 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
Anything else you'd like to know

I didn't even want to know that.

As for your excuses, the world didn't start or end on 9-11 and the people you supported were instrumental in ruining the country. And the illogical posts you have made on this thread are not surprising given your past "thoughtfulness".

Now please stop telling people to grow up after admitting your childish outlook on life.

You are still riding on conservative training wheels, so your arrogance is distasteful.

Now,,,you are dismissed.

351 posted on 10/05/2005 1:16:39 PM PDT by Protagoras (I often employ hyperbole to make a point)
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To: pbrown
Why do you always use the word, "OBTUSE?"

It can be found in the dictionary. It's not a word that applies to many posts. But it describes the posts some have made on these exchanges precisely. That is why I have used it.

Back off or leave me the hell alone.

You may choose to end your conversation with me at any time. No one is forcing you to post.

352 posted on 10/05/2005 1:32:09 PM PDT by Protagoras (I often employ hyperbole to make a point)
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To: Protagoras
I can't let a jerk get the last word.

I put out my past ideologies for everybody and their brother to see,so they can see who they're dealing with up front. I didn't try to hide who I was. But you, you and your sanctimonious smug attitude, think you are the be all end all. Well, let me explain something to you Mr/Mrs/Ms, your opinions don't mean squat to me. You are a nasty, uncivil jerk and all that that entails. Was that OBTUSE enough for ya? If not, we can take this to the back alley I've heard so much about.

353 posted on 10/05/2005 1:48:38 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: diamond6

"Is there a vaccination for this over here?"

Probably not the same strain that they (CDC) expect to be unleased. They have a very small supply Roche-Swiss Company but (USA patent) Company makes it according to Fox News. Orders coming in for it from other countries.


354 posted on 10/05/2005 2:10:42 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: areafiftyone

We need to fight The Birds over there so that we don't need to fight them over here.


355 posted on 10/05/2005 2:12:41 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Windcatcher

" It seems to me that GWB just can't get a break..."


Yup, I agree.


356 posted on 10/05/2005 2:12:49 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: pbrown

And if Bush did NOT consider any options the left would be screaming about how BUSH DID NOTHING!!!

But, I am surprised at how many here are jumping on the Bash Bush Bandwagon lately.


357 posted on 10/05/2005 2:12:53 PM PDT by amutr22 (....not ANOTHER clinton!)
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To: Sabramerican

LOL Didn't they make a big stink about the flu last year saying all these people were going to die and the U.S. did not have enough vaccines yada yada yada Poor old people waiting in line yada yada. The WHO is on Panic Button mode all the time!


358 posted on 10/05/2005 2:15:56 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Sabramerican

"We need to fight The Birds over there so that we don't need to fight them over here."

Thats exactly, kind of, what D-Senator Harkin suggested.
Says we need more people OVER THERE monitoring it to prevent it from coming over here.
hmmm
Good luck with that........


359 posted on 10/05/2005 2:20:21 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: amutr22
Just look how they ripped him to shreds over Katrina, God bless the man, like a hurricane was his fault. It's hard to believe some of them actually voted for him. Waaaay too many Bush bashers here. I have a problem with him and our open borders. But I don't think I've bashed him over it. Like someone said on one of these threads, look what he's had to deal with since becoming president...everything but an asteroid.
360 posted on 10/05/2005 2:25:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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