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Sources Identify TATP As Component Of Bomb
ChannelOklahoma.com ^ | 10/04/2005

Posted on 10/05/2005 2:22:25 AM PDT by Quaker

TATP Same Component Used By Infamous Shoe Bomber

POSTED: 9:56 pm CDT October 4, 2005 UPDATED: 10:11 pm CDT October 4, 2005

NORMAN, Okla. -- Sources confirmed Tuesday night that at least one of the components in the bomb used by Joel Henry Hinrichs III Saturday night was a product called TATP.

Technically, TATP is triacetone triperoxide. However, it's called the 'Mother of Satan' by Islamist extremists. Experts say it is made by mixing common household items such as drain cleaner and bleach to create a white powder with a strong smell.

It's so volatile that it can explode even if it's merely dropped. It can even explode spontaneously, experts say.

There have been very few reports of TATP being used in the United States; however, there have been more documented cases overseas -- including Richard Reid, who was arrested after he used TATP in his shoe and tried to light it on a flight.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: normanbombing; oklahomabomber; terrorism; trop
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To: savedbygrace

But didn't the FBI already have inside intelligence about the OKC bombing plans before the building was blown up?

Poor national security can equal national disaster.


22 posted on 10/05/2005 6:36:44 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: MRadtke
Charles Bishop (Bishra).

Here is his suicide note (which officials were very slow to release):

Smoking Gun Archive

I have prepared this statement in regards to the terrorist acts I am about to commit. First of all, Osama bin Laden is absolutely justified in the terror he has caused on 9-11. He has brought a mighty nation to its knees! God blesses him and the others who helped make September 11th happen.

The U.S. will have to face the consequences for its horrific actions against the Palestinian people and Iraqis by its allegiance with the monstrous Israelis--who want nothing short of world domination!

You will pay--God help you--and I will make you pay!

There will be more coming!

Al Qaeda and other organizations have met with me several times to discuss the option of me joining. I didn't.

This is an operation done by me only. I had no other help, although, I am acting on their behalf.

Osama bin Laden is planning on blowing up the Super Bowl with an antiquated nuclear bomb left over from the 1967 Israeli-Syrian war.


Note the nice touch that someone (maybe not Charles) scratched out the word terrorist. Now I feel safer. < /sarcasm >. Newspapers never noted the discrepancy (even Smoking Gun's transcription omits the word).

23 posted on 10/05/2005 6:42:54 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: Quaker
"Experts say it is made by mixing common household items such as drain cleaner and bleach to create a white powder with a strong smell."

LOL!

It's a good thing the jihadis don't use father of satan. That's ammonia and bleach. You mix it up in the kitchen, dry it in the oven on low, and collect the white powder.

24 posted on 10/05/2005 6:49:01 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: Dog

He may have been a loner who fed off the stories of suicide bombers in his troubled mind...He may have been curious and gone to visit the Mosque where his roommate worshipped..

He may have decided to do this act purely out of deranged suicidal thinking..alone..but then perhaps not.

He may have only intended to kill himself..

Perhaps this unstable explosive went off early before his plan to take others with him could be realized.

many questions ..
I wonder how many suicides have been performed by using explosives in a public place...that were not meant to harm others and had nothing to do with terrorism..
I wonder.


25 posted on 10/05/2005 6:51:40 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: spunkets

Just the smell of that would be bad enough to drive people away.


26 posted on 10/05/2005 7:17:12 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: spunkets

Wouldn't mixing bleach and ammonia release chlorine gas?


27 posted on 10/05/2005 11:27:29 AM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: weegee

Also not the words scratched out behind God (Allah?), after September 11, and after allegiance with.




Thanks for posting this.


28 posted on 10/05/2005 11:56:29 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: GladesGuru

I don't know exactly what chemical is released but it can be deadly? We girls are taught at an early age not to mix cleaning agents - especially ammonia and bleach. At least I remember my Mom warning me about that several times growing up.


29 posted on 10/05/2005 11:58:32 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: indcons; PhiKapMom

Suicide Note from Smoking Gun posted on this thread at post #23.


30 posted on 10/05/2005 11:59:47 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: SlowBoat407; appalachian_dweller

PING


31 posted on 10/05/2005 12:01:59 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: GladesGuru
"Wouldn't mixing bleach and ammonia release chlorine gas?"

No, NH2Cl. The jihadist needs to get rid of this by driving it off in the oven, else he'll never collect his white powder.

32 posted on 10/05/2005 12:06:29 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: freeperfromnj

thanks, ffnj. I'm afraid we may not hear the real story on this stupid loon until more people have died.


33 posted on 10/05/2005 12:17:20 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (The best things happen just before the thread snaps.)
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To: weegee

Is this from the OU suicide bomber?


34 posted on 10/05/2005 2:19:21 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Dog

Media reports say the London bombers "may" have used TATP and at just about the same time there was a bombing in Israel that used the same chemical.


35 posted on 10/05/2005 2:46:52 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Quaker

Here is a little connection for you.

Remember Nick Berg(Beheaded in Iraq). He went to OU and met a associate of Shoe bomber while there. Small world at OU.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/05/13/berg.encounter/


36 posted on 10/05/2005 2:51:09 PM PDT by Skeeve14 (1980's RR-Communism Evil Empire 2000's GWB-Communism good for Business)
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To: LibertyRocks; PhiKapMom

This thread was already posted on 10/04/05. Updated chronological list-o-links to follow :)


37 posted on 10/06/2005 4:30:12 PM PDT by indcons (Please FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons if you want on/off the Norman Bombing ping list.)
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To: OXENinFLA
With the story coming out about the fertilizer I wonder know if the TAPT was just the trigger device.

Hinrich didn't get the fertilizer he was seeking. I suspect that the original plan was ANFO bombs (Ammonium Nitrate/Fuel Oil) the type used in the first WTC attack, and the Murrah building bombings. This was apparently scrapped in favor of TATP, the components for which are easier to obtain at present...

the infowarrior

38 posted on 10/08/2005 12:56:23 AM PDT by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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