Posted on 10/05/2005 6:03:56 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana
3 videos on the right-hand video listing. Summary:
Hinrichs spent time in the same Norman mosque as Moussaui
Ticket to Algeria was found linking back to his Pakistani roommate
5 others possibly involved
Hinrichs attempted to enter the stadium and may have had a ticket to the game
no..this is new. Thanks for posting it.
Here we go again with the time frame stuff:
"..Hinrichs, 21, is believed to have died in an explosion about 7:30 p.m. Saturday on a campus bench about 100 yards from Gaylord Family "
This article pisses me off in a way..sounds like they are going to try and blame this poor off duty cop that witnessed the thing a few days before! Arghhhh... This cop is probably a hero and why Moron Boren knew about Joey Jihad before this whole thing "blew up"..
http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/4344a2c30d701
EXCERPT
Standing to the side was Hossam Barakat, an OU Arabic instructor who lives nearby at Parkview Apartments, 606 Stinson Ave.
Although he was also celebrating the Muslim holiday, Barakat was also thinking about the events of this past weekend, when Joel “Joe” Henry Hinrichs, a 21-year-old mechanical engineering junior, died in an explosion around 7:30 p.m. Saturday while sitting on a park bench on the South Oval about 100 yards away from Oklahoma Memorial Stadium during the second quarter of the OU-Kansas State football game.
“I’m concerned about the [Muslim] community,” Barakat said. “Hopefully by next week it’s going to be cleared that he’s not involved in this community.”
With Internet reports and newscasts purporting a supposed connection between Hinrichs and the mosque, Barakat and other Muslims are worried about public perception.
“I’ve never seen (Hinrichs) before, just on the news,” Barakat said.
He did, however, know OU finance major Fazal M. Cheema, Hinrichs’ roommate.
On the night of the explosion, Barakat was visiting friends, including Cheema, at his apartment complex. Around midnight — about four and a half hours after the explosion on the South Oval — Cheema exited the apartment and Barakat said he heard Cheema being taken into custody by Norman Police Department officers, who urged Barakat and the six or seven others to stay inside.
Around 4 a.m. Barakat and the others were taken one-by-one and questioned by the FBI. They were questioned again the next day and cleared of suspicion, Barakat said.
probably nothing to this, but right around the start of the game, I was sitting in my seat in the north endzone seats and was looking at one of the tunnel entries to the seating on the northwest side of the stadium.. 2 security guards were physically removing a young white male from the seating area and down the tunnel.. He was resisting being removed.
I know people who travel between Europe and the U.S. Sometimes they can purchase tickets cheaper in Europe. This leads them to purchase a round trip with an "open" return. They can have a return ticket in their possession for up to a year.
Tinfoil Time>
Since we are all inclined to believe that the Government is lying, why not question some basic facts? There has been speculation that Hinrichs was under observation due to the feed store incident. Perhaps, just perhaps, the attempted bombing was thwarted better than we think! Perhaps Hinrichs is NOT dead? Note that we were wondering why there wasn't a "head" and why it would take so long to do a DNA match? Perhaps the FEDS weren't prepared to deal with taking him into custody and faking the bombing death.
Perhaps the "five injured parties" correspond precisely to the co-conspirators. Perhaps they were also scarfed up and taken into custody. Perhaps there are six more residents at Gitmo this weekend.
Did anyone remember the zotted post late last week where a newbie with an ME sounding name wanted to start a discussion of about the coming use of "camps" for Muslims, meaning internment camps? Perhaps the FEDS have spread that rumor within the Muslim community. How better to punctuate the "threat" than to "disappear" some would-be terrorists before they could do damage WHILE suppressing press coverage.
The Muslim community would KNOW that 6 members were missing. The word would spread quickly!
I reiterate that this is JUST a tinfoil story. However, wouldn't it be great if it were true! :)
/Tinfoil Time>
About halfway down this page is pictures from our seats in the stadium at the game... right about the time I saw the young white male removed from the stadium
http://www.justinpaulbrown.com/blog/
sounds like an MIP to me...lol
IIRC I initially heard that the Feed Store owner called the FBI himself. I'll try to find that - think it was a video. I don't think it was on Ch5 unless it was the video that's now missing.
WOW..Jayson good reporting..just got through looking over your blog! Listening to the 911 tapes again. u should listen to them and tell us how they fit to the scene at the time.
For the record, what was the gate number?
TIA
Considering this is a college student, on a college campus, I'd say the anti-american/anti-war leftist have to answer for this, cause I am sure that their propaganda was at least in part the motivation as to why this college student tried to bomb those buses.
Excellent summary on that blog!
( http://www.justinpaulbrown.com/blog/ )
I was curious about replays and whether anyone would be able to hear the explosion, interesting that the replay skipped those 5 minutes...
I never did ask if the game was broadcast live - if so someone somewhere must have been recording or "Tivo'ing" it... Maybe a FReeper?? We could only be so lucky.
That is interesting..
From Jason's Blog:
"… so as the part of the second half in which the bomb went off took place — the replay of the game just suddenly jumped 5 minutes! Five whole minutes of the game was missing! So here’s my question: For those of you who watched the game at home, did the bomb temporarily knock out the TV signal? Or did Fox Southwest deliberately cut out the part of the game when the bomb went off? Interesting."
Interesting indeed..
Ok, here's a transcript of the link entitled "More Details Emerge About OU Suicide Bomber (October 5)...
Male Anchor:
"The metamorphosis of Joel Hinrich appears to have been in full swing by the time of the blast at OU. Tamara Pratt is learning more, things law enforcement is not publicly revealing..."
Tamara Pratt:
"From National Merit Scholar to suicide bomber, and in between, here's what we've learned..
The two faces of the 21 year old. One, clean shaven, which the FBI released. The other, most likely came from Hinrich's family. Now, News 9 sources tell us, recently, Joel Hinrich has spent much of his time at the Norman mosque. A signifigant piece of the puzzle, because Zecharias Massoaui, the only man charged in the 9-11 attacks also spent time there.
As for the bomb, we've learned it was what is known as a TATP bomb, a highly volatile mixture of acetone and peroxide. It can be made from hair bleach, and sulfuric acid, simple over-the-counter items anyone can purchase.
There were intial reports of a second device at the scene, right after the first explosion Saturday night. A ststement released from OU President David Boren after the blast stated 'The second detonation was the bomb squad making sure that there was not a second device.' Which, is true...However, we've learned that what techs were exploding were chemical compounds. Again, not an actual device, but potential bomb parts.
Law enforcement did an extensive search of Hinrich's university owned apartment and vehicle. Sources indicate (unintelligible to me) an airline ticket, destination: Algeria, for a future date. The name on the ticket repotedly links back to Hinrich's roommate, 24 year old Fazzel Cheema, raising the question, were others involved?
Sources now tell News 9 five others were reportedly involved. That does not mean that others have been arrested, or will be arrested, nor does it mean that they were detained. Right now, we are trying to determine if those 5 others 'involved' were involved with the bomb, or involved with allegedly moving items out of an apartment..."
(End of transcript)...
the infowarrior
Transcript much appreciated infowarrior!
You need to get out more. They don't look alike at all.
It's slavic.
You're quite welcome. Now, can somebody else get a transcript of the other, earlier clip? My 50-year old ears would find it difficult to do another, at least this soon...
the infowarrior
I don't know exact times, but the bomb went off a significant time before halftime... it was still rather daylight as I remember the people looking over the edge of the stadium after the bomb went off... but when I went under the stadium for a smoke it was nearly completely dark... if anybody knows what time halftime started, the bomb happened a good 30 minutes or more before that.
Do Muslims not die and need the services of a Muslim Funeral Home? Would it not be natural for a Muslim Funeral Home to have "arabic" writing in it's name?
Have you checked out the jewish funeral homes in and around Atlanta? I'd wger they have Hebrew writing and maybe also similar translations.....
I hate to say this but with Dan Rather, if it walks like a dog and barks like a dog, he will still try to tell us that it's a duck.
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