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Arnold’s Gay Rights Give-and-Take - Governor signs civil rights bill...
Coast Weekly ^ | Oct 06, 2005 | Jessica Lyons

Posted on 10/05/2005 9:18:18 PM PDT by calcowgirl

Late last week, while the media focused on his veto of the same-sex marriage proposal, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill intended to protect gay men and lesbians against discriminatory business practices.

Apparently, not too many people noticed.

Assembly Bill 1400, the Civil Rights Act of 2005, authored by Central Coast lawmaker John Laird, will expand anti-discrimination codes by including sexual orientation in the law. It builds upon the Unruh Civil Rights Act, which prohibits discrimination based on sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, or medical condition. Laird’s bill forbids all businesses that provide services, goods or accommodations to the public—including shopping malls, hotels, bars and restaurants, schools and medical offices, among others—from discriminating based on sexual orientation, gender identity or marital status.

Schwarzenegger signed this legislation into law on Sept. 29, the same day that he vetoed the same-sex marriage bill—an action that made state and national headlines.

“In any other year, AB 1400 bill would be the major civil rights bill of the session, and a lead news story when it was signed,” Laird says. “It is a significant change, and if that is the one good thing that happened out of the marriage veto, that’s not so bad.”

In a message delivered with his veto, Schwarzenegger reminded voters why he is considered a social liberal.

“I am proud California is a leader in recognizing and respecting domestic partnerships and the equal rights of domestic partners,” Schwarzenegger said. “I support current domestic partnership rights and will continue to defend and enforce these rights.”

Although he vetoed the same-sex marriage bill, the governor did sign three others that will strengthen protection for gays and lesbians in addition to Laird’s. One piece of legislation prohibits insurers and health plans from discriminating on the basis of gender identity; another allows domestic partners of public employees who retired prior to Jan 1, 2005, to receive death benefits; and the fourth will strengthen domestic partners’ property rights.

Same-sex marriage opponents like Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, criticized the governor for signing the four bills.

“It’s outrageous that Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed other radical sexual agenda bills that undermine marriage and push the transsexual and homosexual agenda upon other Californians,” Thomasson said.

Meanwhile, conservative groups continue to collect signatures to put two initiatives on the ballot next year. One would create a constitutional ban on gay marriage and another would eliminate domestic partner rights.

Laird recognized that Schwarzenegger risked alienating these religious conservatives. “The governor said he supports domestic partners rights,” Laird says. “He threw a wrench in those [initiatives]. It puts him at odds with those folks.”

David Jensen of the gay rights group Pride of Monterey County called Laird’s bill “a step forward.”

Jensen said he believes Schwarzenegger is being sincere when he says that gays and lesbians are entitled to full protection under the law.

“Last July, at our Pride event, the governor sent a letter. He did congratulate us for standing up for our civil rights,” Jensen says. “I think there are a lot of people in the gay community who, if they don’t see the governor as an ally—at least he’s not an enemy.”

Jensen points to a Public Policy Institute of California poll, released in early September, which indicates that for the first time, California voters are evenly split on whether same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.

“A lot has changed in the last five years,” Jensen says. “More and more people really don’t see what the big deal is anymore. It is progress. We don’t expect things to change overnight.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab1400; arnoldlegacy; caglbt; civilunions; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; johnlaird; markleno; samesexmarriage; schwarzenegger; unruhcivilrights; unruhcivilrightsact
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1 posted on 10/05/2005 9:18:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Basically, it looks like Arnold gave the courts exactly what they need to legislate gay marriage from the bench. All while he takes credit for the gay marrige veto.


2 posted on 10/05/2005 9:26:54 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("Let the wicked man forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord" Is 55:7)
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To: calcowgirl
“More and more people really don’t see what the big deal is anymore. It is progress. We don’t expect things to change overnight.”

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sounds like we have a few FRogs in the pond here that are of the same mind, eh?

3 posted on 10/05/2005 9:33:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: calcowgirl
“More and more people really don’t see what the big deal is anymore...."

The BIG deal is rearing children to believe that homosexuality is "natural" and "an equivalent life choice". Homosexuality is a learned trait, IMHO, and I don't want kids "learning" it.

Fags can "marry" all they want, as far as I'm concerned; as long as children are totally out of the equation.

4 posted on 10/05/2005 9:35:50 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Don't go messin' with their lily pads!


5 posted on 10/05/2005 9:55:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion
Read it and peep.
6 posted on 10/05/2005 10:35:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

He vetoed the REALLY important one: the homosexual marriage bill. These are mere crumbs.


7 posted on 10/05/2005 10:36:55 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
He vetoed the REALLY important one: the homosexual marriage bill. These are mere crumbs.

Oh you so expert in marriage law, who sees so far, are full of crap, again.

The REALLY important one was AB205, promoting gay marriage in reality in all but name.

Six bills he signed in support of domestic partners THE SAME DAY HE VETOED calling it marriage. They can adopt. They can get artificial insemination. They can enter into any equivalent agreement. All assumptions of the law with regard to contracts and insurance are equivalent. We just don't call it "marriage."

Big deal.

What Schwarzenegger has done is a fraud on the people of California who passed Prop 22 by a wide margin.

8 posted on 10/05/2005 10:53:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

>>What Schwarzenegger has done is a fraud on the people of California who passed Prop 22 by a wide margin.

Ditto that. All with the help of freepers promoting the GLBT agenda.


9 posted on 10/05/2005 10:55:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Ditto that. All with the help of freepers promoting the GLBT agenda.

At least you used the lower case.

10 posted on 10/05/2005 10:56:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You appear to be so busy hating Arnold, that you aren't even noticing that our own US Senate sold out our safety and just surrendered to the terrorists, they are more worried about the well being of the terrorists, than the lives of innocent Americans.



Senate Supports Interrogation Limits (90-9 vote to protect terrorist detainees)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1497443/posts


11 posted on 10/05/2005 11:12:18 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Last bad news of the night. Arnold throws conservatives a symbolic crumb, while giving social liberals/leftists/homosexual agenda advocates the entire loaf.

Sickening.

Freepmail me AND DirtyHarryY2K if you want on/off this pinglist.


12 posted on 10/05/2005 11:16:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: calcowgirl

"It builds upon the Unruh Civil Rights Act, which prohibits discrimination based on sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, or ***medical condition*** [code word for AIDS].

Laird’s bill forbids all businesses that provide services, goods or accommodations to the public—including shopping malls, hotels, bars and restaurants, ***schools*** [now Johnny can wear a dress, heels, and makeup to school AND NO ONE CAN SAY A DAMN THING ABOUT IT] and medical offices, among others—from discriminating based on sexual orientation, ***gender identity*** [code word for transvestites/cross dressers/transgendered and/or any man or woman who dresses up like the opposite] or marital status."

This sheer psychosis. Official Twilight Zone.


13 posted on 10/05/2005 11:23:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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This sheer psychosis. Official Twilight Zone.

It's been law in Santa Cruz for nearly a decade.

14 posted on 10/06/2005 6:24:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: FairOpinion
You appear to be so busy hating Arnold, that you aren't even noticing that our own US Senate sold out our safety and just surrendered to the terrorists,

They surrender our safety to terrorists EVERY DAY they don't get control of our borders. Meanwhile, back to the subject of the thread: California small business is under attack and you don't give a crap.

Laird’s bill forbids all businesses... from discriminating based on sexual orientation, gender identity or marital status.

In other words FO, if you run a day care center, Arnold apparently agrees that you MUST hire a transvestite if he/she is "qualified"; else you'll get sued. If you run a women's cosmetics counter and a gay male applies, you may not "discriminate." If you sell men's clothes and an obviously gay male wants the job so that he can get a thrill when fitting pants, you can't stop him. If you run a manicure shop and a 200 pound dyke with green hair shows up, don't you dare turn her away.

I'm not exaggerating. It's been the law in Santa Cruz for over five years. That's how it's been going.

Schwarzenegger signed this legislation into law on Sept. 29, the same day that he vetoed the same-sex marriage bill—an action that made state and national headlines.

Defend it.

15 posted on 10/06/2005 6:41:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: FairOpinion
He vetoed the REALLY important one: the homosexual marriage bill. These are mere crumbs.

The biggest difference is that it is just not legally called marriage. This is like allowing Iran to have atomic weapons as long as they don't refer to them as nukes.

16 posted on 10/06/2005 6:44:57 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Carry_Okie

Heck, I lived in Aptos in the early 80s and I could hardly stand it then. Or afford it.


17 posted on 10/06/2005 7:37:48 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: little jeremiah
Thanks to the leftists in charge, implementing the Agenda21 Sustainable Development, Santa Cruz now has one of the worst housing affordability indicies in the nation.
18 posted on 10/06/2005 7:43:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie; FairOpinion

Everything you said is exactly right. Daycare center - flaming homosexual ok. Schoolbus driver - transvestite fine. Fourth grade teacher - transgendered 6 ft tall "woman" fine.

And if some of these sick freaks have been toning it down, the lid will now come off.

We ain't seen nothin' yet.


19 posted on 10/06/2005 8:04:32 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: little jeremiah
We ain't seen nothin' yet.

We're definitely in for more Juvenal behavior.

20 posted on 10/06/2005 8:17:38 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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