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DELAY TEST ON DELAY (hmmm, an interesting insight on Tom Delay's situation)
Nealz Nuze 10-06-05 ^ | 10/06/05 | Neal boortz

Posted on 10/06/2005 6:53:07 PM PDT by rawhide

DELAYTEST ON DELAY

You've heard this one, haven't you? Well, maybe not. I'm not sure --- just guessing --- but this won't make it to the Washington Post or the New York Times, unless you find it buried in the lower inside corner of page 25. It's about the foreman of the Texas grand jury that returned that first indictment on Tom Delay. The foreman's name is William Gibson. He is in his mid-70s. Yesterday morning he told our Austin affiliate KLBJ that he had made up his mind to indict Tom Delay long before he heard one piece of evidence presented by prosecutor Ronnie Earle. And why was he determined to indict Tom Delay? Because, it seems, he didn't like some campaign advertisements that Delay ran in the newspapers during his last reelection campaign. Here's what Gibson told KLBJ:

All this came out way before I was on the grand jury, these (ads) were in your paper, in Austin paper, everyone else's paper, they was flooding the market around here. But those were way before I ever went on the grand jury and my decision was based upon those, not what might have happened in the grand jury room. So .. here you have the foreman of the first grand jury to indict Delay making a rather astonishing admission that his decision was made on the bases of campaign ads he just didn't like.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: delay; earle; foreman; gibson; grandjury; ronnieearle; texas
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To: Torie

Since his lawyer has not made a public statement on the law date, Delay is milking this for all it's worth!


21 posted on 10/06/2005 7:45:02 PM PDT by phatoldphart (Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate)
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To: Real Cynic No More
"The Austin populace who elected Earle should file charges with the State Bar Association against him for negligence ..."

The bozoids have been electing this offal since 1976.

The Austin populace are the ones who need to be arrested.
22 posted on 10/06/2005 7:46:37 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: decal

Austin - Bezerkly on the Colorado River


23 posted on 10/06/2005 7:50:02 PM PDT by phatoldphart (Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate)
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To: Torie
So in the great state of Texas, a DA can just bounce from judge to judge, empaneling Grand juries, until one gets it "right" eh? It kind of reminds me of Louisiana.

It's not been that way in the past because nobody has really abused the powers the way Ronnie Earle has before today.

The way the Colonies feared a central government before forming the the USA, the people of Texas feared the same thing. And they were an independent country for several years.

The Texas constitution decentralizes powers to the counties instead of putting it into the state. Consequently, the state government has relatively few powers, but the counties have enormous powers.

The bad side effect of this is that if you gain control of a county politically and want to abuse the system, you can. You can virtually turn a county into your private fiefdom.

Read The Rise and Fall of the Duke of Duval by William Sessions for an entertaining display of the problem.

Ronnie Earle is the first county official to take that power to go after federal officials. I think he's going to get squished like a bug, and the Texas Constitution is going to be amended.

24 posted on 10/06/2005 7:52:13 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone; jwalsh07
Duval county is where LBJ stole the election in his first race for the Senate against Coke Stevenson as you know by stuffing the ballot box with sequentially numbered ballots. The place is very famous. If there is a hell, and I don't believe there is, LBJ is in it. LBJ is the worst American president going away, corrupt, mean, manipulative, while weak at the same time in handling tough decisions, who when he finally got the brass ring exercised horribly poor judgment. I have no doubt he is the most nortorious unindicted felon in American history, with the number of his felonies in double digits.

He also manipulated the FDR FCC to steal the radio station that got him rich. The man is a pig, and an eternal stain on the state of Texas, forever, until our species dies out.

And there you have it. I just needed to get that off my chest. :)

25 posted on 10/06/2005 8:01:07 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

Very odd indeed. I think he feels invulnerable because he is in one of those districts that proverbially would rather elect a yellow dog than a Republican. Whether he will get the same kind of respect on a national level remains to be seen.


26 posted on 10/06/2005 8:02:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Torie

We view LBJ identically almost. Theologically speaking, I think that pig has crossed the River Styx where he will spend eternity.


27 posted on 10/06/2005 8:06:55 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

As a lagniappe, LBJ took his bribes, by having corporate interests who wanted the "right" legislation buy advertising on his radio station. Is that not simply brilliant? The white collar felonious mind at its apogee of talent is just so creative. It is a veritable art form.


28 posted on 10/06/2005 8:13:06 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Torie, first off the first grand jury wasn't the first. Second, this guy is a corrupt prosecutor.

BTW, since he's elected by the people of Travis county, but has jurisdiction over the whole state, isn't that unconstitutional?

29 posted on 10/06/2005 8:16:01 PM PDT by AmishDude (Proud inventor of the term "Patsies". Please make out all royalty checks to "AmishDude".)
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To: AmishDude

Ask that to nominee Miers at the hearings. I don't have a clue.


30 posted on 10/06/2005 8:17:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

The Texas Democratic Party has probably gotten its just rewards in the last 10 years for the many and various crimes that LBJ was involved in.

Problem is, the punishment's probably not over with yet. At least not until the national Democrat party moves far away from the clutches of the far left.


31 posted on 10/06/2005 8:17:03 PM PDT by Sam Spade
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To: Torie
Sorry, apparently a degree in mathematics isn't a sufficient intellectual credential for SCOTUS.

But here's the relevent citations. I've left out the eminations and penumbras.

IV.4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government

XIV.2: nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

32 posted on 10/06/2005 8:26:58 PM PDT by AmishDude (Proud inventor of the term "Patsies". Please make out all royalty checks to "AmishDude".)
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To: Torie
The Duke of Duval, George Parrs, stuffed the ballot boxes, not only in the county he controlled, Duval, but the one that held out until the margin of victory was known. The most blatant stuffing of ballots came in Jim Wells County, which is just to the east of Duval County. He not only orchestrated it, but bragged about it.

Historical trivia, I know...

33 posted on 10/06/2005 8:27:06 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Thanks. Controlling two counties is always better than one, all things being equal.


34 posted on 10/06/2005 8:28:13 PM PDT by Torie
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To: AmishDude
The is a due process issue, seemingly a serious one, but maybe nobody cares, since we have juries to decide in the end, and appellate courts to review it all, but the mad man of Travis somehow usurping state authority is too esoteric for me. Only a mathematician can handle that one adequately. By the way, Laurence Tribe, the great Satan of the academic law in conservative circles, who spent about 5 mintues of a speech mentioning the right wing nuts on a FR thread, got a degree in physics undergrad, and loves math. Inhale that one.

And there you have it.

35 posted on 10/06/2005 8:32:31 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Physics is math for girly-men.

And nobody said mathematicians weren't insane. We most certainly are. You'd think the profession that produced the Unabomber would get a little bit more respect. Or better, fear.

Hopefully, Earle will be slapped -- hard -- by a judge again, but this cannot continue to happen. I would have thought that this would have been taken care of after Kay Bailey Hutchinson had been maliciously prosecuted.

The whole "cash for dropping charges" thing gives convenient political cover for the Texas bar to get rid of him.

36 posted on 10/06/2005 8:38:42 PM PDT by AmishDude (Proud inventor of the term "Patsies". Please make out all royalty checks to "AmishDude".)
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To: WOSG

Delay will never have to face trial on this issue.

The matter of violation of Tom Delay's due process rights under the 5th and 14th Amendments will be decided by an intervening Federal Court which will likely quash the indictment, that is if the Texas court refuses to entertain or order a motion to quash this bogus
process.

Delay's lawyers will be seeking something called an order of Certiorari with Mandamus in aid.And all of a sudden it won't even be reported. Wing nut prosecutors, wing nut
special prosecutors and wing nut protestors will not stop Freepers from their appointed rounds.

The question I ask is will America face a civil war aginst these wing nuts? When will these wingnuts decide to pick up rifles instead of going to court or using the normal channels of protest, normal judicial procedure and a corrupt public media ? Heck, as far as Delay is concerned he was guilty, sentenced and hung? The man has done nothing not already done by others in the Rat fold.The chances of his conviction for the alleged offence were minimal , even if the indictment was not bogus.

These wing nut liberals are raving maniacs and it will get worse. As it gets worse, ordinary Americans will see it and vote GOP. What ordinary American would want these wing nuits in charge of our country ??


37 posted on 10/06/2005 8:40:42 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: AmishDude; jwalsh07; Dog Gone
The whole "cash for dropping charges" thing

That was a bit shocking wasn't it? That reminds me of Louisiana too. Maybe Texas is Louisiana east. Dog Gone tells us that each county in Texas is a fiefdom. Which reminds me why I am a federalist. Localities with too much power can use and abuse, without the larger polity just saying no. And whole states can be cesspools too. Think about it.

38 posted on 10/06/2005 8:44:43 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Candor7

Delay won't get into federal court unless and until he is in jail.


39 posted on 10/06/2005 8:46:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Well, the power that's given to Earle is a state-wide power given to him only. I can understand there needing to be a check on state officials, but you cannot have somebody elected by a small group able to wield statewide power.

I can't be a federalist. I still bear a grudge against the first Adams administration.

40 posted on 10/06/2005 8:46:50 PM PDT by AmishDude (Proud inventor of the term "Patsies". Please make out all royalty checks to "AmishDude".)
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