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Hugh Hewett: "Yes, Gentlemen, I am a Party Man." (The conservative movement jumps the shark)
hughhewitt.com ^ | October 7, 2005 | Hugh Hewett

Posted on 10/07/2005 6:52:34 AM PDT by quidnunc

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To: quidnunc

I will be happy when the contrived, cheezy "jump the shark" phrase is dumped. It sounds made up and pushed into the threads so someone can claim they coined it.

Just my opinion. And I vainly state it here.


21 posted on 10/07/2005 7:33:18 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Walkingfeather
>>>>It sounds made up and pushed into the threads so someone can claim they coined it.


It actually originated from an episode of the old tv show "Happy Days." Arthur Fonzerelli quite literally got on water skis and jumped a shark to prove he was the biggest stud.
22 posted on 10/07/2005 7:35:30 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("They're thin and they were riding bicycles" - Ted Turner on NK malnutrition.)
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To: quidnunc
Nothing lasting will be accomplished with SCOTUS unless the GOP remains in power beyond 2008 and 2012. If the current seven veterans linger, and the GOP is crippled because of intra-party quarrels, how will President Hillary's and Vice President Obama's justices rule?

Mr. Hewitt is right, but not in the way he intends. He might well ask himself, "What has the GOP done to keep themselves in power beyond 2008?"

The "Right's Daffy-Duck hysterics," as you so charmingly (if inaccurately) put it, will not cripple the administration or lose the Congress. But George W. Bush and the Republicans in Congress will succeed in doing just that if they continue to thumb their noses at the conservative base who put them there.

Yes, George W. Bush is a fine man, and he has done some great things as president: his bold conduct of the war, his tax cuts, and his previous judicial appointments come to mind. But against that we must acknowlege that he has presided over an expansion of the size and scope of the Federal government. Campaign finance reform, prescription drug benefits, de facto amnesty for illegal aliens, and GOP pork have many conservatives asking, which is the party of Big Government?

Some in the GOP may contend that the conservatives have nowhere to go: They won't pull the lever for a Democrat. True enough. But not all of them are "Party Men" as Hewitt declares themselves to be. They can hurt the GOP merely by staying home.

23 posted on 10/07/2005 7:37:49 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: .cnI redruM

Here's the thing: I don't think Bush is compromising by picking Miers. He's giving the court a solid conservative vote to support Thomas & Scalia. Let Roberts be the intellectual voice.

Thomas never says anything. He just votes..right.


24 posted on 10/07/2005 7:38:16 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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To: rightinthemiddle
>>>>Thomas never says anything. He just votes..right.

Only partially true. His written opinions have often been stellar. He's not the king of courtroom demeanor. Scalia and Roberts have him trumped. He is the proverbial still water that runs deep.
25 posted on 10/07/2005 7:40:19 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("They're thin and they were riding bicycles" - Ted Turner on NK malnutrition.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Thomas never says anything. He just votes..right.

He may not speak much in the courtroom. But he communicates quite effectively where it counts—in his written opinions.

26 posted on 10/07/2005 7:43:40 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: Walkingfeather
Walkingfeather wrote: I will be happy when the contrived, cheezy "jump the shark" phrase is dumped. It sounds made up and pushed into the threads so someone can claim they coined it.

As .cnI redruM points out, the phrase "jump the shark" comes from the episode on "Happy Days" where the Fonze on water skis jumped a shark.

That episode is generally considered the point at which "Happy Days" began its descent into oblivion.

27 posted on 10/07/2005 7:48:22 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc

If the RATS attempt to Bork Miers the Right will become united. I'm still waiting for RAT talking points to come out (and they will).


28 posted on 10/07/2005 7:50:35 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Logophile

Agreed.


29 posted on 10/07/2005 7:52:06 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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To: veronica
No doubt about it. I do understand when folks feel strongly about the court, especially after the savaging of Bork, and I think debate is healthy, but in the end we have to be as one, united against the Dems.

Absolutely. But you are preaching to the choir here. Most of us would love to see a united front against the Democrats. Instead, we are told not to expect much of the Republicans in the Senate because of a small group (perhaps half a dozen, give or take a couple) of left-leaning "Republicans in Name Only" who threaten to side with the Democrats on controversial issues.

30 posted on 10/07/2005 7:52:09 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: quidnunc
which makes me think that opposition to Miers is not that deep.

LOL, no way do the Democrats let this one get away. They are yukking it up, big time.

31 posted on 10/07/2005 7:53:42 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: quidnunc

Why should Conservatives support a nominee who stated yesterday that her favorite SC justice was Warren Burger? Hewitt and the Bushbots are going to get what they deserve, good and hard. The problem is: the rest of us are going to get the same thing.


32 posted on 10/07/2005 8:04:34 AM PDT by mdefranc
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To: quidnunc
If the ideological Right's Daffy-Duck hysterics succeed in crippling the Bush administration, say goodbye to to the Congress and presidency for at least a decade.

We can say goodbye to national security as well.

33 posted on 10/07/2005 8:08:41 AM PDT by alnick
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To: quidnunc

There is no Conservative movement. By its very nature, a Conservative tends to stay put.


34 posted on 10/07/2005 8:11:18 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: oblomov
In other words, we can't have any differences from the President on any issue?

Oh good grief, no. How about constructive criticism? How about REASONED debate? How about keeping the raw emotionalism out of it? How about learning the facts BEFORE you leap to wild conclusions? How about ignoring rumor and innuendo? And finally, when someone presents information about, say, Ms. Miers that reflects positively on her, NOT dismissing it out of hand because it does not fit your prematurely formed opinion?

And that's for starters.

35 posted on 10/07/2005 8:14:02 AM PDT by alnick
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To: oblomov
In other words, we can't have any differences from the President on any issue?

Oh, and one more thing. That ridiculous question sounds too much like the, "How dare you question my patriotism" canard.

36 posted on 10/07/2005 8:15:38 AM PDT by alnick
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To: quidnunc
If the ideological Right's Daffy-Duck hysterics succeed in crippling the Bush administration

While I agree with this, I think it's fair to point out that Bush's weakness vis-a-vis the Senate is due to the RINOs, not the conservatives. Bush had to "go stealth" because there are too few -- NOT too many -- conservatives in the Senate.

I think all of us, on both sides of the Miers nomination, should keep this first and foremost in our minds the next time a conservative challenges one of our incumbent RINOs during primary season.

37 posted on 10/07/2005 8:17:06 AM PDT by kevao
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To: alnick

How about not accusing me or others of doing things we haven't done... um, for starters?


38 posted on 10/07/2005 8:23:24 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: alnick

>>"How dare you question my patriotism" canard.

LOL...I say, please go ahead and question my patriotism. Please do.


39 posted on 10/07/2005 8:24:19 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: .cnI redruM
Social conservatives have been courted courted by the GOP since the 1970s. We joined the party and since that time it has resembled an abusive marriage.

The party promises the moon, it snubs them and betrays them, then it tries to calm them with pleas of the need to keep the marriage together. They calm down and renew their vows. Months later, the party holds out the promises again. The cycle repeats itself.

We have been abused too often. There have been too many promises. The intervention we are having is necessary and good.

40 posted on 10/07/2005 8:28:07 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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