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Nigerian cleared over circumcision death (Ireland)
RTE News, Dublin, Ireland ^
| 07 October 2005 16:12
| RTE News Staff
Posted on 10/07/2005 11:12:54 AM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
Does that mean that circumcision is *not* legal in Ireland?It's not done routinely, certainly, and I doubt most doctors would do it, since it's rarely medically indicated.
As someone who grew up in Dublin, I'd just like to chime in that the judge is an eegit.
To: Mount Athos
People die from even simple procedures in sanitary environments with thoroughly certified individuals. While this could be techncnically true,how often does a healthy young man in a Western country die after a circumcision that was performed by a certified/licensed medical practitioner?
To: Gay State Conservative
A person is less likely to die if they get their ear pierced from a licensed professional.
That doesn't mean the actions of a person who accidentally kills someone by doing it at home, rise to the level of criminal reckless negligence.
If you think about it, parents choose less safe options for their children all the time, rarely with malicious intent.
To: Mount Athos
FYI....circumcision is different from ear-piercing.And an act needn't be malicious to be reckless! An individual who,while acting recklessly but not maliciously,kills another (say,in an auto accident),is likely to do some jail time.Probably not as much as if he were acting maliciously,but some.
To: Gay State Conservative
FYI....circumcision is different from ear-piercing. Are you really suggesting I think they are the same? This conversation is over.
To: Murtyo
Oops, my brain skipped over that one!!
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posted on
10/07/2005 12:46:16 PM PDT
by
Murtyo
To: Mount Athos
Are you really suggesting I think they are the same? This conversation is over. Agreed...it's over.I'll leave you to consult anyone you wish (qualified or unqualified) to perform any procedure on you that you wish....ear-piercing,circumcision,brain surgery...you name it!
To: Murtyo; Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; ...
But we must respect their culture! < /sarcasm >
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posted on
10/08/2005 5:36:00 AM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
To: Irish_Thatcherite; Right Wing Professor; Mount Athos
I find this infuriating, but Mount Athos makes a good point about giving a parent the benefit of the doubt. Can't help thinking this is the start of a long slippery slope to multi-culti dogma.
Interesting you grew up in Dublin, right wing. Another freeper with an Irish connection!
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posted on
10/08/2005 6:44:01 AM PDT
by
Colosis
(Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK) IRA = Ragheads)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
In directing the jury, Judge Kevin Haugh said that they could not bring what he called their white western values to bear when they were deciding this case. The judge is a racist jerk.
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posted on
10/08/2005 8:25:20 AM PDT
by
aculeus
To: aculeus
The judge is a racist jerk. Probably, but this multiculturalism is dangerous - I'm not sure Western society can permit genital mutilation of minors!
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10/08/2005 8:32:24 AM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
To: Gay State Conservative
one would think that an advanced (well,scientifically advanced,at least) nation like Ireland would insist on slightly higher standards. But, that would be using white western values as a standard. Can't have that now, can we?
/grrrrr
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posted on
10/08/2005 8:33:41 AM PDT
by
kstewskis
("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
To: kstewskis
Western values will do - no need for the white bit!!
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posted on
10/08/2005 8:56:04 AM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
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posted on
10/08/2005 8:57:40 AM PDT
by
kstewskis
("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
...and might I add, the fact that this judge brought up the "white" issue clearly states what camp he stands in.
Pathetic, and racist, yes.
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posted on
10/08/2005 8:59:54 AM PDT
by
kstewskis
("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
To: kstewskis
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posted on
10/08/2005 9:06:50 AM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
As a native Irish woman, I would have to agree that this is the exact sort of stupid multiculturalism that is going to flush our country down the tubes. This news piece invokes in me the same nausea as the piece on Choudury spouting his hate filled bilge in the hallowed halls of Trinity College
PS I also appreciate your tagline - NO SURRENDER!!!
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:20:21 AM PST
by
blackbird149
(NO SURRENDER!)
To: blackbird149; Happygal; Colosis
As a native Irish woman,..... I have an Irish ping list, would you like to join? Are you still living here in Ireland?
.....I would have to agree that this is the exact sort of stupid multiculturalism that is going to flush our country down the tubes. This news piece invokes in me the same nausea as the piece on Choudury spouting his hate filled bilge in the hallowed halls of Trinity College
Thankfully, Ireland still has time, unlike many other countries in Europe, to tackle her immigration problem, our immigration problem is still relativley new - when our ecomomy went from Third World to First World in the late '90s, the migration pump switch polarity - instead of people leaving in their droves, they arrived in their droves, it's early days but we need to take it on - if the mainstream parties don't do so, Sinn Fein/IRA will hijack the issue next election at grassroots level.
PS I also appreciate your tagline - NO SURRENDER!!!
Thanks, but the credit goes to Eoghan Harris - in one of his brilliant columns, he suggested that Fine Gael should campaign in the next general election with the slogan; "A vote for Ahern is a vote for Adams" - as a 'Blueshirt' meself, I can vouch for that strategy! On a side note I am disgusted that the Fine Gael, once Ireland's GOP, has slipped in liberalism since the election of Garret Fitzgerald!
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posted on
11/12/2005 6:02:49 AM PST
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
definitely add me to your Irish ping list! Whereabouts in Ireland are you from?
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posted on
11/12/2005 12:41:57 PM PST
by
blackbird149
(NO SURRENDER!)
To: Murtyo
Difficult to get a conviction on "circumcision evidence."
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posted on
11/12/2005 12:44:23 PM PST
by
durasell
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